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Title: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 09, 2008, 10:58:58 AM
The yorktown class...
Its a ship i designed for TLE (the lost era) The era between TNG and TUC
its is going to be a cruiser...a note its my first decent ship in 3ds Max ive made, the details are still being modelled in the main mesh is done however... suggestions are welcome =]

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8718/yorktownwipca6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/yorktownwipca6.jpg/1/w1327.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img510/yorktownwipca6.jpg/1/)

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4179/yorktownwip2tt8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/yorktownwip2tt8.jpg/1/w1327.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img142/yorktownwip2tt8.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: JimmyB76 on October 09, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
oooh!  very nice!
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Nebula on October 09, 2008, 12:30:16 PM
very cool
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Kirk on October 09, 2008, 12:33:15 PM
This ship, to me, shows very clearly why the neck and saucer method of ship building is flawed. The saucer looks like it could snap right off the neck. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ship and fits its era nicely.
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Adonis on October 09, 2008, 01:44:22 PM
OK, suggestions:
1)Widen the neck as you go towards the back
2)Rotate the deflector a little downwards (since you got with the Ambie-like deflector)
3)Redo the nacelles starting out from a capsule, use FFD2x2x2 (Modifiers>Free Form Deformers) modifiers for the curved parts, and extrude the top half of it to get an excelsior-like nacelle shape (if you want to have the same type of plasma grids, use a bevel tool for it on the polys you got with the extrusion above). make these new nacelles less wider (about 60% of the width you have now). Also, make the fins less wide than you have now (for these and pretty much all things I use one decks height - 3.5m's - as a basis for comparison, so my fins are generally 2-2.5m's wide)
4)Look at the Ambassador and my Novi Sad class for clews on the shuttle bay area (I'm talking about the nacelle struts meeting the sec hull)
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: GRUNT on October 09, 2008, 05:47:10 PM
Cool, Max!
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: moed on October 09, 2008, 08:38:38 PM
Looking good!

Keep it going. :D
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: FourChan on October 10, 2008, 01:14:38 AM
Alot of Ships have thin necks, though that's the TOS Era, you need a slightly more half egg shaped neck to meet the TMP Excelsior era style of necks. Though I have a question, are you moving away from the Standard Excelsior design?
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 10, 2008, 03:41:58 AM
Well i remade it and i more like how it tuned out this time =] i tried to make it raelly look like a cross between Excelsior and Ambassador... thngs i changed mostly are the shape of the saucer and impulse engines, made them more original Excel impulse engines caue u never see the refit engines after Generations anymore, also i made the flight deck/nacelle struts more ambassador like and made the defelctor face down, also the nacelles are somewhat in between Ambassador and Excelsior..showing a somewhat progress...

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5962/yorktownremakebi1.jpg)

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5341/yorktownremake2km2.jpg)

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4676/yorktownremake3tt5.jpg)
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: limey BSc. on October 10, 2008, 07:38:54 AM
The nacelles seem a little oversized for the rest of the ship, but on the whole, it shaping up well :)
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Adonis on October 10, 2008, 07:55:50 AM
The nacelles seem a little oversized for the rest of the ship, but on the whole, it shaping up well :)

...and also have the Ambassador's blockiness...dude, do something about that please!
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 10, 2008, 08:15:58 AM
I actualy want the ambassador blockyness :P a like that :P
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: limey BSc. on October 10, 2008, 08:22:06 AM
Yeah, I quite like the shape, they just seem unproportionately big.
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: intrepid90 on October 10, 2008, 11:22:06 AM
it looks nice but very fat
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Shino Tenshi on October 10, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
Yes, the ambassador stil has some elegance left.. but this.. uh.. ;)
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: GRUNT on October 11, 2008, 05:01:14 PM
I liked the original model....more original-'looking'.  :D

Still, good job...
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Aeries on October 11, 2008, 06:35:32 PM
Ohhh, good work. :]
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 12, 2008, 05:01:27 AM
note: i havent updated it in a while because i was gettin ready for my birthday wich is today...and i am suffering from a terribel hangover from last night :P
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Starforce2 on October 12, 2008, 11:49:50 PM
you could have kept the engiens as cargo/shuttle bays like they sometimes are seen as on excelcior variants. Defenetly paint her up like the amby. And what is that goofy attachment over the 2 impulse engines? A 3rd engine? Looks worse than what you had to begin with. Addtionaly, the engines on the gold model are far to large/fat. The Oroginal ones looked right, although a bit too large still and your fins were a good idea but need to be narrower. You removed some of the best parts in the second version. Keep the fins, make'em thinner, and decrease the diameter of the nacelles a tad from the first version. Otherwise this looks less like a mid era and more like an amby ripoff.
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: JimmyB76 on October 13, 2008, 10:30:02 AM
i kinda liked the Excelsior-style nacelles a bit more...
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 13, 2008, 04:22:46 PM
well this sucks...i remade the model in xsi with all the suggestions but still more mantaining excelsior style...BUT...i was so stupid to restart my computer BEFORE saving the moel... so i lost it...F**K!



edited vulgarity   -jb76
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Aeries on October 13, 2008, 06:42:04 PM
I've done that with the Mithra several times. :S
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 14, 2008, 04:57:13 AM
yah but it was such an AMAZING version like PERFECT x'D i completely redisigned the nacles to be exclsior refit-like  but with some changes to the front and grill  and the nacelle struts were perfect and the neck seemed like it could actualy support the saucer.
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Adonis on October 14, 2008, 06:00:04 AM
yah but it was such an AMAZING version like PERFECT x'D i completely redisigned the nacles to be exclsior refit-like  but with some changes to the front and grill  and the nacelle struts were perfect and the neck seemed like it could actualy support the saucer.

There's no such thing as perfect dude :P
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Aeries on October 14, 2008, 09:17:54 AM
yah but it was such an AMAZING version like PERFECT x'D i completely redisigned the nacles to be exclsior refit-like  but with some changes to the front and grill  and the nacelle struts were perfect and the neck seemed like it could actualy support the saucer.

There's no such thing as perfect dude :P
truer words were never spoken. You'll rebuild her. And when you do, I'll bet shell be even better!!
Title: Re: Yorktown Class TLE Era Cruiser WIP
Post by: Maxloef on October 14, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
perfectly how i wanted it to be ;)