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Title: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on February 28, 2009, 08:27:49 AM
Got bored at midnight... didn't wanna screw around with the Mithra. So, five and a half hours later, this thing's sitting, nearly completed, on the lcd display in Max. Yay for exhaustion and sugar binges! C&C welcome. :]
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: MarkyD on February 28, 2009, 08:29:27 AM
Loving that.. take a cookie :)
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Villain on February 28, 2009, 08:51:25 AM
That's a weird take, but oddly, I think I like it. :P
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Retribution on February 28, 2009, 09:00:58 AM
Different yet at the same time, very inviting. :) Nice work there dude.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: CJLarkin on February 28, 2009, 09:54:04 AM
Very nce, like the Nacelle Self-illumination and the shape. Although i'm a little unsure about the back neck, though. Those orange slits seem kinda buggy.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: MarkyD on February 28, 2009, 10:14:41 AM
Very nce, like the Nacelle Self-illumination and the shape. Although i'm a little unsure about the back neck, though. Those orange slits seem kinda buggy.

I think thats a reflection...  Its a mental Ray Render from the looks of it, and its reflecting the orange from the bussards.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Darkthunder on February 28, 2009, 10:18:12 AM
No offense to the modelling, but I fail to see how this can be considered a "JJVerse" ship. Looks nothing like the style of the USS Kelvin, or the new Enterprise.

Model looks good, don't get me wrong... just doesn't fit in the "JJVerse" style universe tbh.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Dalek on February 28, 2009, 10:36:37 AM
Check the warp engines. They're the most JJ thing ever.

I think it would look more like the Constellation class if you moced the warpies back a little bit? Otherwise it looks like someone wearing a huge rucksack with huge trousers. At least to me anyway :P.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Darkthunder on February 28, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
Check the warp engines. They're the most JJ thing ever.

I think it would look more like the Constellation class if you moced the warpies back a little bit? Otherwise it looks like someone wearing a huge rucksack with huge trousers. At least to me anyway :P.

Sorry, but I still fail to see how this has any resemblence to the 2 known "JJVerse" ships. Even if untextured, these nacelles have nothing in common with the Enterprise nacelles, other than being "cylinder shaped".
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Dalek on February 28, 2009, 12:10:07 PM
The Constellation is younger than the Constitution, JJVerse or not.

I can tell that its JJVerse. The shape of the saucer gives some of it away as well.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: ChronowerX_GT on February 28, 2009, 12:18:33 PM
The Constellation is younger than the Constitution, JJVerse or not.

I can tell that its JJVerse. The shape of the saucer gives some of it away as well.

I thought it was a lot older.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: JimmyB76 on February 28, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
The Constellation is younger than the Constitution, JJVerse or not.
I thought it was a lot older.
the Constitution Class was launched 40 years before the Constellation Class...
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Constitution_class
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Constellation_class

personally, in general i think the whole "JJ-Verse" thing is stupid...  mostly because i think the new movie and everything revolving it is stupid...
nothing against anyone who is building ships from this "genre" tho, of course; the work being done is excellent and i encourage all modders to take on new projects :)

No offense to the modelling, but I fail to see how this can be considered a "JJVerse" ship. Looks nothing like the style of the USS Kelvin, or the new Enterprise.
Model looks good, don't get me wrong... just doesn't fit in the "JJVerse" style universe tbh.
Check the warp engines. They're the most JJ thing ever.
I think it would look more like the Constellation class if you moced the warpies back a little bit? Otherwise it looks like someone wearing a huge rucksack with huge trousers. At least to me anyway :P.
Sorry, but I still fail to see how this has any resemblence to the 2 known "JJVerse" ships. Even if untextured, these nacelles have nothing in common with the Enterprise nacelles, other than being "cylinder shaped".

i find myself agreeing with DT...  i think this ship needs alot more work and detailing, it doesnt seem to fall into the "JJ-verse category" from what i have observed so far, i dont see any strong resemblance to the other "JJ-verse" ships... nothing against aeries; it is coming out well thus far... im sure with a bit more tweaking and remodeling, it could work :)

personally tho, id say "screw the stupid JJ-verse crap; mithra needs some love" :P


anyway, on that note let's please go back ontopic...


thx :)
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FourChan on February 28, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
It looks like something JJ Abrams would make.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Shadowknight1 on February 28, 2009, 02:28:44 PM
It looks like something JJ Abrams would make.

Wrong.  It looks like something Ryan Church would make.  :P

Anyway, while it seems to have some echoes of the original Constellation, it's...very different.  To quote a certain Vulcan, it is, "shall we say, unique."
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Dalek on February 28, 2009, 02:35:01 PM
It looks like something JJ Abrams would make.
Anyway, while it seems to have some echoes of the original Constellation, it's...very different.

So's the JJ-Connie. I think in the JJVerse everything looks different.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on February 28, 2009, 02:42:49 PM
in any case, I've been re-thinking those nacelles since i got up. I have a feeling that's what's throwing everyone off... that and the shiny. but I like shiny... especially at 5:30am.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Darkthunder on February 28, 2009, 03:04:01 PM
Here's your JJVerse Connie, Dalek :)

Quickly and crudely done, but you get the picture. Apologies to Aeries for the brief hijacking.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Shadowknight1 on February 28, 2009, 03:52:54 PM
I think it looks odd because the Constellation used the 1701 refit nacelles, whereas you're using the rounded nacelles....hmmm...what would the 1701 refit look like in JJ's timeline?
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: WileyCoyote on February 28, 2009, 05:52:30 PM
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hmmm...what would the 1701 refit look like in JJ's timeline?
Don't get me started. :)  Maybe you can put the nacelles further back like the 4-nacelled Excelsior and extend the engineering hull.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on February 28, 2009, 06:09:08 PM
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hmmm...what would the 1701 refit look like in JJ's timeline?
Don't get me started. :)  Maybe you can put the nacelles further back like the 4-nacelled Excelsior and extend the engineering hull.

What engineering hull? :P Unless you're talking about the deflector and torpedo pods... In any case I've been thinking about this and I think I'll redesign the deflector pod a bit and the nacelles are gonna get a makeover tonight. I'm not happy with the nacelles anyway. Don't worry, this won't turn into another Mithra! I wanna actually release something. This will also be my learning base for texturing. *pokes markyd* =3
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: WileyCoyote on February 28, 2009, 06:23:38 PM
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What engineering hull?
I guess that you are going for a more of a Kelvin designed Constellation with JJ-prise components.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FourChan on February 28, 2009, 07:28:51 PM
It looks like something JJ Abrams would make.
Anyway, while it seems to have some echoes of the original Constellation, it's...very different.

So's the JJ-Connie. I think in the JJVerse everything looks different.

The JJVerse is a sick and twisted view of Star Trek. Lol. I will watch the movie but I wont like it :P

Oh and refit JJ Abrams Enterprise:

Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on February 28, 2009, 08:16:57 PM
refit JJ Abrams Enterprise

I'm going to cry.

I guess that you are going for a more of a Kelvin designed Constellation with JJ-prise components.

Pretty much...
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Shadowknight1 on February 28, 2009, 08:20:14 PM
Ummm, FourChan, couldn't TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT be considered sick and twisted views of Star Trek?  Especially the latter three?  Don't say you won't like something that you haven't seen yet. :P

Nooo, I prefer some of the more reasonable fan projections on that refit, thank you very much.  That's horrendous.  johnnymuffintop's conjecture comes to mind.

Anyways Aeries, you might try letting the nacelles lose some weight.  That may help the balance of a design that always had fairly small engines.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FarShot on March 01, 2009, 01:23:12 AM
Okay, just because you slap on the refit nacelles and saucer doesn't make it JJVerse.  I know that wasn't you, I've seen that before on other sites.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Dalek on March 01, 2009, 07:06:07 AM
The Constellation is younger than the Constitution, JJVerse or not.
I thought it was a lot older.
the Constitution Class was launched 40 years before the Constellation Class...
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Constitution_class
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Constellation_class

Yeah, what I said.

I think maybe if you lose the orange in the bussards and make the blue bits instead of them on the side and instead on the top? And slide the nacelles back?
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Kirk on March 01, 2009, 09:27:42 AM
Okay, just because you slap on the refit nacelles and saucer doesn't make it JJVerse.  I know that wasn't you, I've seen that before on other sites.
Ouch  dude
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FarShot on March 01, 2009, 12:18:59 PM
I just photoshopped my own concept of a refit JJPrise.  I got the original from Ex-Astris-Scientia, then did some modifications.

Here is the one I made and comparisons.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Dalek on March 01, 2009, 12:27:52 PM
As much as I like all this, we really should get back ontopic and Aeries should get the next post. Before Jimmy comes along and says it anyway.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 01, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
do me a favor - let the moderating be done by the staff please ;)


thx
(even tho thats exactly what i would have said anyway lol)


aeries will have the next post, and then this thread will get cleaned out, and everything can go back ontopic from there... :)
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on March 01, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
Better?

Edit: Pic updated; moved the nacelles back a bit.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FourChan on March 01, 2009, 06:22:56 PM
Ummm, FourChan, couldn't TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT be considered sick and twisted views of Star Trek?  Especially the latter three?  Don't say you won't like something that you haven't seen yet. :P

Nooo, I prefer some of the more reasonable fan projections on that refit, thank you very much.  That's horrendous.  johnnymuffintop's conjecture comes to mind.

Anyways Aeries, you might try letting the nacelles lose some weight.  That may help the balance of a design that always had fairly small engines.

Okay take something that you grew up with, liked, enjoyed and everything then all of a sudden some new person came in, twisted it around and turned it into crap.

Good Example: The Show Knight Rider.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Billz on March 01, 2009, 06:51:54 PM
Lose the enginneering hull.

 :(

In no way, shape or form should a Constellation class have a extremely noticable enginnering hull. Not even in the self contained ego-centric universe style of J.J Abrams.

Nacelles are good though.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on March 01, 2009, 07:17:15 PM
Without it, and merely a second torpedo pod:
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Shadowknight1 on March 01, 2009, 07:28:03 PM
That looks good.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FarShot on March 01, 2009, 07:59:04 PM
The torpedo pod doesn't look very JJVerse-ish.  Streamline it and lose the hull extending around the torpedo ports.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: DJ Curtis on March 01, 2009, 09:13:05 PM
i actually liked it a lot better with the sec hull on top.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: lint on March 01, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
I have to agree with DJ on that one.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Kirk on March 01, 2009, 10:24:39 PM
I'll have to third that.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: FourChan on March 02, 2009, 01:17:20 AM
FourChannel that.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Darkthorne on March 02, 2009, 02:19:25 AM
I got to agree too it looks better with the sec hull on top. And seemingly more in line with what we seen on JJ-Verse ship designs like the Kelvin.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: MarkyD on March 02, 2009, 11:39:47 AM
I fifth that, looks allot better with the sec hull...   seems to work very well, good job.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: limey BSc. on March 02, 2009, 11:49:42 AM
I agree it looks better with a secondary hull, but think it should be on the bottom, not the top.
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: 086gf on March 02, 2009, 11:49:16 PM
Well, if you do that then you can't call it a Constellation class now can you?
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: lint on March 03, 2009, 12:10:46 AM
Its the JJVerse, He can change the design however he wants and can get away with calling it anything :)
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 03, 2009, 09:11:28 AM
Its the JJVerse, He can change the design however he wants and can get away with calling it anything :)

ooooh boy, i can see where that would take us...  modders will now start making all sorts of weird and backward-looking strange designs and kitbashes of current ships, all to be called "JJ-verse" lol :P
how about a JJ-verse Galaxy, where we'll put the Engineering section off to the left of the saucer, slap on a Nebula weapons pod on the bottom, we'll put the nacelles on top and voila!  lol j/k

(sorry, offtopic; couldnt resist)
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Aeries on March 03, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
Be careful what you wish for jimmy; I might just do it. ;)
Title: Re: Aeries' "JJVerse" Constellation Class
Post by: Johnnymuffintop on March 05, 2009, 05:49:27 AM
Ummm, FourChan, couldn't TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT be considered sick and twisted views of Star Trek?  Especially the latter three?  Don't say you won't like something that you haven't seen yet. :P

Nooo, I prefer some of the more reasonable fan projections on that refit, thank you very much.  That's horrendous.  johnnymuffintop's conjecture comes to mind.

Anyways Aeries, you might try letting the nacelles lose some weight.  That may help the balance of a design that always had fairly small engines.

Ouch Shadow, but agreed, it was horrendous.

I've been working on some ideas, talking with a few people. And what I'm not thinking for the refit is nacelles similar to the engines of General Grievous' starfighter in Star Wars Episode III.
Since the lead designer of the new ship was the same as the Star Wars prequels, I've been looking towards them for inspiration, might help you too Aeries. Seeing as how the new Enterprise does look a little like an Empirial crossed with a Naboo ship attempting to be the Enterprise. :p