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Title: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 25, 2009, 02:04:55 PM
Just a retexture of DJ's Venture Galaxy. I was always thinking about a more armored version of the Galaxy class and I thought why not use DJ's Venture? Ablative Armor plating and stuff like that. I will add to more powerful systems and hull a better shield generator, some backup pulse cannons on the back and a phaser array in the forward torpedo tube. If I'm not mistaken we've seen that phaser in the darmok episode of tng.

Well, I'm still working on it. I just wanted some input. I'm not thinking of a release.
But with DJ's permission and If you would download it, then sure I'll give it to you.  :D

JTK

Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Wolf on March 25, 2009, 02:27:29 PM
That looks brutal.  :D

As for the Darmok episode, I think it was just an error on the production side.  I remember the phaser being fired straight from the torpedo launcher.  :shock:
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 25, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
That's great, I can't wait to see this, I hope I can get it lol. Is this going to overwrite the ship or not? Also for armor plating, add some more armor on the front of the saucer section cause it seems a bit exposed to me.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 25, 2009, 02:34:44 PM
That's great, I can't wait to see this, I hope I can get it lol. Is this going to overwrite the ship or not? Also for armor plating, add some more armor on the front of the saucer section cause it seems a bit exposed to me.

Yeah I thought it would be too empty. More pics tomorrow then.

EDIT: Already have a good idea. let's hope I won't forget it  :lol:

Oh and i already have it seperately running in bc. So no overwriting.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Nexxus21 on March 25, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
This looks FIERCE :!:...I just upgraded the DJYamato HP and and added the name plate to the Galaxy refit bridge.... Now it looks as though it was all for naught.... :lol: Well I better get a head start for this Venture. I can't wait to take her in battle against the Dominion or Borg...speaking of which when shes done how are we going to download her :shock:
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: CJLarkin on March 25, 2009, 03:29:26 PM
Well Frak me down and call me Betsie! That looks hench!
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Jb06 on March 25, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
One thing... have you got permission to release it because last time i known, DJ has now stopped people modding his ships.

~Jb06
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 25, 2009, 04:27:11 PM
There's no problem if it's for his personal mod, though when he gets it finished  I want a copy :P
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Darkthunder on March 25, 2009, 04:48:40 PM
There's no problem if it's for his personal mod, though when he gets it finished  I want a copy :P

Which in turn negates it from being his "Personal" mod, if multiple people have it.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Dalek on March 25, 2009, 04:54:41 PM
Oh well. Public is released on BCF (shame that its closing down huh?). Private is when you force said recipient to not release anywhere on pain of internet death. :D

BUT ITS BLOODY COOL! WANTZ!
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 25, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
Well, it's different than putting it online and letting 50,000 registered users have it, I have mods on my BC install from people that no one has that aren't public released that are remakes of some vessels.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: adama2 on March 25, 2009, 06:29:22 PM
cratulation great work, i`m really surprised... :)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 25, 2009, 07:43:22 PM
Yeah it is intendet for personal use. I wouldn't dare release it without DJ's permission ;)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 26, 2009, 02:32:03 PM
I like the saucer glow, but a ship that's refitted like that, should it be blue or red? Maybe make one of each? Or it'd be cool to do it like they done on the Enterprise A with the two different deflector powers. High and Low.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: cordanilus on March 26, 2009, 07:49:51 PM
Very nice, I would love to see that ship in a video.  Hmmm, and I got a few flyby scenes in mind too. he he
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: MarkyD on March 26, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Its nice, but it does look like you only adjusted the colours slightly and maxed up the spec maps.. look forward to seeing the weapon additions.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Bigkap on March 26, 2009, 09:17:53 PM
I'm not partial to the armor (rather the amount of it used). Assuming that by this refit, she'd have a brand spankin' new core, and (presumably) shield technology would have improved also.

I do, however, very much like what you've done with the deflector and engines. All in all she's nice tho :D
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: mckinneyc on March 27, 2009, 06:09:46 AM
I like it. However have armour just around key areas. The bridge module, all phaser arrays, the main impulse engine, and forward and aft photon launchers.

I'd extend the armour on the engineering hull spine to include the main impulse engine.

I'd remove the starboard and port plating on the top of the saucer section so just the bridge, top of the shuttlebay, main phaser array and impulse engines are covered by armour.

Also I'd revert to the normal style deflector or how about an Intrepid styled one? And those purple exhast things below the main shuttle bay look far better the normal blue colour.

I love the bussard collectors!!!! However I'd scale back the armour on each nacelle. Perhaps having the phaser implacements armoured then hanving a central spine running forward.

I think at present she looks too much like a heavily armoured battleship rather than a beautiful ship of exploration with better armour for protection.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: adama2 on March 27, 2009, 06:32:44 AM
I would change only the purple on the top side. The remainder is great. :arms:
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Judge King on March 27, 2009, 07:53:25 AM
It looks like something that would come about after the end of the Star Trek: Destiny trilogy. Pure win.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: eclipse74569 on March 27, 2009, 11:29:48 AM
I don't know why the arboretum would be lit purple.....

I would add more sovereign styled armor instead of just darkening the textures...that would look really PDW
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 27, 2009, 11:59:06 AM
I didnt only darken the textures, deleted the windows, smudged the inner parts, and made them look more like the old plating has been replaced with stronger plating.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Darkthunder on March 27, 2009, 12:56:26 PM
Personally, i'd like to see the ship to be more covered in the plating style seen in AAVenture3.jpg. Specifically the actual "plates" that are shown on the right side of the saucer. Perhaps making it look more like the Armored Voyager from Endgame?
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 28, 2009, 03:52:24 AM
Well, I wanted it to be a refit that really looks like a galaxy without changing it that much.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 28, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
I like the way it looks, I was wondering though how'd it look with a bit of a theme from Future Tense (A Star Trek Armada Mod coming out sometime) I'll post a pic of the Galaxy Class there.

(http://www.futuretense.armadafleetcommand.com/gui/fed/bat3.jpg) This ship.
(http://www.futuretense.armadafleetcommand.com/gui/fed/ref3.jpg) Even this one
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 28, 2009, 02:33:25 PM
Galaxy EVO ?
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 28, 2009, 02:40:18 PM
Well, sorta lol, this is from Armada FT on Armadafleetcommand, if you browse the Future Tense forums there you can get better views of the ship lol.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 28, 2009, 04:56:13 PM
Yeah, but it seems like it has a touch of lcs galaxy^^ since we already have that one i thought it wouldnt be necessary to make sov style armor.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on March 30, 2009, 11:46:23 AM
New dorsal plating and minot tweaks. Updated hp aswell.

Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Dalek on March 30, 2009, 11:49:10 AM
New picz!

It is nice! Feels like the front is being fulfilled now lol. It reminds me of the War Sovereign retex.'s by CR. Jolly good work old bean!
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on March 30, 2009, 02:06:56 PM
Yeah lol, I wonder what a Armor Generator Galaxy would be like, I'm sure it would have some of these features though.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Barihawk on March 30, 2009, 11:07:10 PM
Looks excellent except for the purple arboretum. If it was the same color as the default, it would be amazing.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: eclipse74569 on March 30, 2009, 11:11:20 PM
Looks excellent except for the purple arboretum. If it was the same color as the default, it would be amazing.

or get rid of the arboretum....I don't imagine any warship having one...
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Bigkap on March 31, 2009, 01:19:38 AM
Looks excellent except for the purple arboretum. If it was the same color as the default, it would be amazing.

or get rid of the arboretum....I don't imagine any warship having one...

There's an idea  :D

The armor looks much better JTK. I love that phaser color as well.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: mckinneyc on March 31, 2009, 09:31:26 AM
Looking better but I still feel that important ares of the ship aren't protected like the main impulse engine and the bridge.

Also still dislike the purple windows.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Villain on March 31, 2009, 11:02:49 AM
Frack! Definite cookie. Gives me ideas for the Prime too so.. Another cookie the moment I can!
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: ACES_HIGH on March 31, 2009, 10:53:58 PM
I agree it needs more armor on the back of the neck, something like this:
(http://artzone.daz3d.com/azfiles/gallery/5x/y9/2ox9ycfiwi1h3g4l5r2atacbdldqq1-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: John Rule on April 01, 2009, 03:39:32 AM
AMAZING!!!! Can't wait to download it. Off some other site that'll replace File Front: BC
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Dalek on April 01, 2009, 12:38:56 PM
Unfortunately, DJ has had crackdown on anyone doing retex.'s of his work. And JTK did say it was for personal use only.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JimmyB76 on April 01, 2009, 06:55:18 PM
which is why creating a thread to show off personal work that obviously cannot be released publically may not be a good idea, and is only seemingly meant to "tease" or create an underground "black market" of the mod being distributed which seems to go against the author's wishes...
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on April 02, 2009, 02:18:07 AM
So what does this do about modifying ships for personal use and uploading them as images on like POTD or Post your Best Screenshots? :P
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JimmyB76 on April 02, 2009, 02:29:12 AM
i feel the same about that...  besides, a picture is one thing...  an ongoing, seemingly "WIP", thread confuses people (as has already been shown) that this is something that will eventually be publically released...

to me, such things are a tease and/or a way to get attention to a mod which would be distributed "underground" to others since it cannot be publically released...  seems to have a slight disrespect to the author, IMO...

perhaps this thread shouldnt be in the BC Modding forum, and maybe Graphic Arts instead...  or maybe this seemingly WIP thread to get others interested shouldnt exist at all; ill have to confer with the other staffers and as well with DJ to see what others think...  if it were up to me - *and i mean no disrespect to anyone* - this thread would have been archived by now...  thats just my personal feelings tho...
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on April 02, 2009, 11:45:35 AM
Actually it is a mod. wether for personal use or not. and letting others have part in it, what's the problem?... It's not like I want to be famous or something (in the internet). And I did mention I would ask DJ wether I'm allowed to give it to other people or not. His decision. I intendet it for personal use, but it seems to get attention. So, where is the problem? You could always close the thread if it's finished.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Cmdr. Madden on April 02, 2009, 12:27:12 PM
Galaxy EVO ?

in b4 permaban

lol Galaxy X

sorry, i know how much mods hate having something as taboo as that posted..... please don't kill me


otherwise, i would change the arboretum back to blue because i think it makes for better contrast. also, what if you made it into a S31 ship or something like that.... completely black except for the glow of the deflector, bussards, warp coils, impulse manifolds and the arboretum (or go sans arboretum). honestly when i first saw the pics. i sed "jesus christ that's fu**ing sexy"


(censored vulgarity, swearing isnt permitted in this forum...)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: FourChan on April 02, 2009, 05:26:02 PM
i feel the same about that...  besides, a picture is one thing...  an ongoing, seemingly "WIP", thread confuses people (as has already been shown) that this is something that will eventually be publically released...

to me, such things are a tease and/or a way to get attention to a mod which would be distributed "underground" to others since it cannot be publically released...  seems to have a slight disrespect to the author, IMO...

perhaps this thread shouldnt be in the BC Modding forum, and maybe Graphic Arts instead...  or maybe this seemingly WIP thread to get others interested shouldnt exist at all; ill have to confer with the other staffers and as well with DJ to see what others think...  if it were up to me - *and i mean no disrespect to anyone* - this thread would have been archived by now...  thats just my personal feelings tho...

Okay cause I posted pictures in the Post your Best Screenshots area before and had a ton of requests for the ship I was posting.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: henrie85 on April 02, 2009, 10:28:10 PM
New dorsal plating and minot tweaks. Updated hp aswell.



dam thats a sexy ship LMAO can anyone say deploy armor. lol love the design :D
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on April 03, 2009, 04:32:04 AM
Maybe close the thread until the mods decided  what  to do.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JimmyB76 on April 03, 2009, 11:43:25 AM
we'll keep it going for now...  i dont mean to seem like a sour killjoy; i was just expressing my views...
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Nexxus21 on April 03, 2009, 05:45:30 PM
Just figured how to give cookies..lol Have a chocolate chip on me!  :lol:
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on April 06, 2009, 12:50:30 PM
New: Bussards, deflector, arboretum and added some plating on the neck, nacelles are also new.

Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Dalek on April 06, 2009, 12:53:32 PM
The arboretums blue! :P I think the deflector is the best thing about the whole thing. :D
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: adama2 on April 06, 2009, 01:13:20 PM
OH YES, she is so beautiful  #loveFFX#. Amazing Ship wait for more pictures...
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: mckinneyc on April 07, 2009, 05:51:23 AM
She is gorgeous but I still think armour should extend upto the main impulse engine  :D
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Nexxus21 on April 07, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
I have to say the changes are nice and this ship just gets better lookin' by the day. Impressive most impressive. 8)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: MarkyD on April 07, 2009, 07:53:03 PM
You are kitbashing the best gaming GALAXY Class Avail, it kinda needs to stand out here. What I would like to see is a comparrison at each angle, to show the diff's between ur re-texture... and DJ'S GALAXY.

and some mesh addtions, keep up the good work.  :D
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on April 08, 2009, 05:17:12 AM
You are kitbashing the best gaming GALAXY Class Avail, it kinda needs to stand out here. What I would like to see is a comparrison at each angle, to show the diff's between ur re-texture... and DJ'S GALAXY.

and some mesh addtions, keep up the good work.  :D


I didn't touch the mesh. Im mearly editing DJ's textures :P

I can tell ya, it's hard to take down with a sovereign.

Oh and btw, new neck as requested (more armor and some around the main impulse):

Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: mckinneyc on April 08, 2009, 05:31:22 AM
Good work, she is a beauty.  :D
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: MarkyD on April 08, 2009, 06:44:11 AM
The neck look allot better  :)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Darkthunder on April 08, 2009, 07:15:57 AM
Tbh, to me it looks more like "black patches scattered around the ship", and not so much armored.

Logically, if one were to armor the ship, you would put the armor around the most sensitive areas: Bridge, Impulse engines, Warp engines, underneath the stardrive (protect the warpcore), cargo bays, deflector area, and shuttlebays.

Don't really see the need for making the saucer as "armored" as you have it now. Less is more so to speak. Perhaps removing some of the armor from the saucer, making the entire nacelles armored would improve the look of the ship considerably. Also, I think you should try replicating the "solid" color armor that you have above the saucer impulse engines, as it in my opinion looks considerably better than the 2/3-tone armor you have elsewhere.

Lastly, in it's armored state, a big weakness at current is the arboretum. Need to use a bit of logic, when designing where to put the armor. That's all i'm saying. Not complaining about your work thus far, just trying to give some useful and constructive critisism on how to improve it further. As mentioned above, you are retexturing one of the greatest Galaxy models of this decade. A retexture needs to be pretty top notch as well :P
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit
Post by: Bigkap on April 12, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
This is looking a lot better JTK.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on July 13, 2009, 05:01:11 AM
What do you think about this instead?

A complete rework of the on I made before. Its still early in stage, and I plan on adding some more plating to the ventral Saucer and of course the stardrive and the nacelles.

Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: Shino Tenshi on July 13, 2009, 08:55:01 AM
me likes.

+1 cookie :)
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: Kirk on July 13, 2009, 09:53:47 AM
The deflector is my favorite part.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: Centurus on July 13, 2009, 06:19:02 PM
Personally I liked it better before.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 13, 2009, 07:13:15 PM
*moved to Graphic Arts, since it can never be released publically for BC*
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: Bones on July 13, 2009, 08:04:06 PM
how about making the armor only slightly darker grey than the hull is ? black looks (no offense) cheap, dark grey styled in same way as hull platings on Gagarin or End Game Voyager would look more ... lets say ... elegant, stylish, don't you think ?
Title: Re: Galaxy-Class Venture refit - !complete rework! 07/13
Post by: admiral horton on July 22, 2009, 05:54:14 AM
interesting i hope when your done you'll post an orthogaphic view