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Title: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! !!DONE!!! HP anyone?? - 9.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on April 16, 2009, 11:21:45 PM
Yer well now i can actually model *lol* i've decided to go back and redo one of my babys

now she's still a work in progress so hold up on this one guys im really happy with the improvements on the nacels and impulse engines so, i'd like other peoples opinions too :p

So far only 3165 polys i mean WOW thats low - DETALE TIME!!! lol

This is just a pic of the original one i've done that in legacy,
(http://chrisjonesgaming.net/Modsigs/bbird1.jpg)

a nice view of the NEW style impulse engines,
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird.jpg)

Over all ship so far
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird3.jpg)

A close look at the pulse cannon's under the nacel
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird1.jpg)

a cleaner transistion between hull and wings!
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird2.jpg)

ok guys time to for comment and suggestions pls
also i hope u like it
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! WIP pics 17.04.09
Post by: FarShot on April 16, 2009, 11:29:40 PM
I love this design.   8)  I've always wanted to play Legacy, but I've never gotten around to getting it, not to mention my rig sucks. :P
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! WIP pics 17.04.09
Post by: NeoKaede on April 17, 2009, 05:44:12 AM
Looks nice, very FASA'ish.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! WIP pics 17.04.09
Post by: rengers on April 17, 2009, 06:47:59 AM
very nice work, I really like the look of that ship 8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! WIP pics 17.04.09
Post by: Starforce2 on April 17, 2009, 05:59:33 PM
awsome. I need more enmies for the tos mod. This would go perfect with the ring drive concept I got from Kthyla at KA. if you're looking for more tos roms to build (or remake in high detail) I got some ideas.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on April 19, 2009, 09:20:44 AM
ok people, here is an update for u, added somthing that wasnt on the original, WEAPONS - lovely vissable weapons! have at ye boys

A forward underside view of the ship.
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird1.jpg)

Left side angled view here u get a nice shot of how the new bridge area looks
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird2.jpg)

a close look at the new main hull weapons
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird3.jpg)

the head of the ship, showing the torpedo bay and another side cannon
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird4.jpg)

Rear of the ship showing the new impulse engines
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird5.jpg)

Underside of the ship
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird6.jpg)

this show's off the detail on the buzzard area and the pulse cannons under it
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird7.jpg)

and just for the people who want to see a wire frame?
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebird8.jpg)

this is the OLD battle birds wireframe, just to show u how YUK it was lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/battlebirdold.jpg)
Comments please guys, i'm really happy with this so would love peoples opinion
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: KrrKs on April 19, 2009, 09:30:56 AM
Aaargh, wanna have! :D Thou it looks a bit overpowered. I for myself would cut of either some of the Hull cannons or the Bow/head Cannons. ... I think the second one, but that's just me. Really like it otherwise.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on April 19, 2009, 09:43:42 AM
the connie had more points of fire! lol this is ment to be the BADIST rommie around the tos/tmp era
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: rengers on April 19, 2009, 09:54:45 AM
like I said already, this is very nice work 8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: FourChan on April 19, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
Sweet ship. Very nice. Looks kinda like a Klingon/Romulan hybrid.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: MarkyD on April 20, 2009, 03:29:02 PM
Good job mate, she looks good  8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: NeoKaede on April 20, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
Comments please guys, i'm really happy with this so would love peoples opinion

We are very happy too :D
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: CyAn1d3 on April 20, 2009, 04:59:16 PM
loooookin goood!!  8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on April 30, 2009, 02:51:20 PM
update for all u pretty people out there !!

(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-top.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-bottom.jpg)

Im trying with the weather, im slowly getting there
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: rengers on April 30, 2009, 02:52:36 PM
looks awsome :D cookie!
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: MarkyD on April 30, 2009, 03:17:15 PM
good start on the textures mate  :)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: NeoKaede on April 30, 2009, 03:35:54 PM
Great. Don't change the color! We need more ships with gold/yellow pennants.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 19.04.09
Post by: Billz on April 30, 2009, 06:15:15 PM
This is very cool. Excellent work.

Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 2.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 02, 2009, 02:17:07 PM
Well, got alot of work still to be done, but im more than happy so far

(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-top1.jpg)

Cheak out the rear of the nacel's im so happy with this bit :D
also the patten match's YAY ME! lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-bottom1.jpg)

only concirn is now the patten on the nacels still keep the grid design or choose somthing else?
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 2.05.09
Post by: Shadowknight1 on May 02, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
I like those nacelles as well as the rest of the ship! :D
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 2.05.09
Post by: rengers on May 03, 2009, 10:09:49 AM
very nice work on those textures so far 8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 03, 2009, 04:23:57 PM
ha ha ha, after fighting it out on my warp nacel's i think i got them how i want, finally onto the neck and head, shes nearly done boys

The hull lines on here, WILL be faded a bit more
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-top2.jpg)

Still love the rear end of my nacels :D my favorit bit me thinks
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-bottom2.jpg)

Ok comments and suggestion time again pls guys
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Shadowknight1 on May 03, 2009, 04:27:55 PM
Beyond fading the hull lines, I can't think of anything.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Billz on May 03, 2009, 04:47:17 PM
Excellent. I can't wait for this 'bird to take flight', lol.

Finally! Perfect TOS romulan nacelles. They look awesome. They would look equally as awesome on another well known TOS romulan ship *NUDGE* NUDGE* *WINK* *WINK* *HINT* *HINT*  8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 03, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Sorry mate, im a bit simple, your have to be more percific, im quite dumb really


In good old fasion BLUE PETER STYLE, HERES ONE I MADE EARLYER!!!! lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/BOP1.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Dalek on May 03, 2009, 05:00:43 PM
AWESOME! :P I like the Battle Bird too!
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: FarShot on May 03, 2009, 05:22:11 PM
Both are da bomb. :D

However, I think you should make an alternate version with more Romulan looking nacelles.  These look too Federation-y, like many of the ships in TOS.
Yes, I know the First Federation's Fesarius and the Doomsday Machine.  Shut up. :P
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Dalek on May 03, 2009, 05:26:16 PM
Those "are" romulan nacelles. http://images.google.co.uk/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4GGLD_enGB310&q=TOS%20Romulan%20Bird%20of%20Prey&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: FarShot on May 03, 2009, 05:31:35 PM
I know.  I'm saying an uncanon version that takes some artistic license.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Dalek on May 03, 2009, 05:36:31 PM
Ah. Saying "make them more Romulan" when they're striving for accuracy isn't the best thing to say. But how can you make TOS Nacelles look more Romulan? We've never really seen much in the way of TOS Romulan ships or even TMP ones. And you barely notice they have anything approaching nacelles in TNG-ST-VIII onwards. Just green curves and lights.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Billz on May 03, 2009, 06:16:04 PM
Sorry mate, im a bit simple, your have to be more percific, im quite dumb really


In good old fasion BLUE PETER STYLE, HERES ONE I MADE EARLYER!!!! lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/BOP1.jpg)

I love you.
 :shock:

Make those bussards a dark blue, wings a bit thinner and hollow out the back of the nacelles like in this pic (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cloudster.com/sets%26vehicles/STromulanBirdOfPrey/TOS_Romulan_BOP_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cloudster.com/sets%26vehicles/STromulanBirdOfPrey/RomulanBirdOfPreyTop.htm&usg=__AiW3kUx7p41uKOqnDKmDYYFxLIg=&h=1181&w=1500&sz=263&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=29m7-KQOdMqx5M:&tbnh=118&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTOS%2BRomulan%2BBird%2Bof%2BPrey%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GGLD_enGB310%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1) and it'll be perfect.


And the Battle Bird 2.0 is awesome too.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: FarShot on May 03, 2009, 08:19:29 PM
Ah. Saying "make them more Romulan" when they're striving for accuracy isn't the best thing to say. But how can you make TOS Nacelles look more Romulan? We've never really seen much in the way of TOS Romulan ships or even TMP ones. And you barely notice they have anything approaching nacelles in TNG-ST-VIII onwards. Just green curves and lights.

That's why I asked him to make two versions.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 03, 2009, 09:36:31 PM
Sorry mate, im a bit simple, your have to be more percific, im quite dumb really


In good old fasion BLUE PETER STYLE, HERES ONE I MADE EARLYER!!!! lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/BOP1.jpg)

I love you.
 :shock:

Make those bussards a dark blue, wings a bit thinner and hollow out the back of the nacelles like in this pic (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cloudster.com/sets%26vehicles/STromulanBirdOfPrey/TOS_Romulan_BOP_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cloudster.com/sets%26vehicles/STromulanBirdOfPrey/RomulanBirdOfPreyTop.htm&usg=__AiW3kUx7p41uKOqnDKmDYYFxLIg=&h=1181&w=1500&sz=263&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=29m7-KQOdMqx5M:&tbnh=118&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTOS%2BRomulan%2BBird%2Bof%2BPrey%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GGLD_enGB310%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1) and it'll be perfect.


And the Battle Bird 2.0 is awesome too.

No can do on them changes bro, coz the back is hollowed out like u asked, and also if u watch the show the buzzards are red not blue, i had some real tos inside help on this one, i can promise you she is the most cannon out there
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Billz on May 03, 2009, 09:42:39 PM
and also if u watch the show the buzzards are red not blue,

I beg to differ.
http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/STromulanBirdOfPrey/RomulanBirdOfPreyTop.htm

Those are screenshots from the episode in question. Okay so they aren't high res, but on the ones with the bussards seen, they are clearly not red.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phaser on May 03, 2009, 10:31:12 PM
Billz is right, the Romulan Bird of Prey did have blue bussard collectors.  Pale blue, but blue none the less. ;)

I like this ship!  While's it's mostly a fairly simple kitbash, it just seems to go together well.  Plus, your texturing job is pretty nice, especially the bird on the belly.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 04, 2009, 01:09:20 AM
Kitbash?? where u get that idea from??

on another note, i can most deffently be 100% possative that the BOP has red buzzards well oringe or red one of the two, this comes from a sorce that know's TOS personal a 1 Derek Chester, and 2 look at all the other media, toys pictures models Red not blue red.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Billz on May 04, 2009, 06:28:55 AM
No. They are blue. I have seen the episode enough times to know that for sure.
And Derek Chester only wrote 4 games, 2 of which dont have a TOS romulan BOP. I don't remember whether Legacy or Tactical Assault have them, but if they did, then Derek Chester had nothing to do with how they were designed for those games meaning the games were wrong. We've seen enough evidence of that with the stock Legacy version of the Galaxy class.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 04, 2009, 06:36:47 AM
We've seen enough evidence of that with the stock Legacy version of the Galaxy class.


lol not defending that one :D lol BUT it unfortunatly was best stock galaxy ever , now thats saying somthing lol
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Kirk on May 04, 2009, 09:43:37 AM
Can we keep Legacy out of this and focus on the ship? I personally won't mind whether the bussards are blue or red.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: gdata on May 04, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
C'mon....is it really that important what color these bussards are? If Phoenix says he wants them pink, he can make 'em pink. And you can still change the color easily yourself, when you download the mod.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Shadowknight1 on May 04, 2009, 10:21:32 AM
They have a point, changing bussard colors is fairly easy, so I don't think it matters.  They both look f'ing awesome.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: gdata on May 04, 2009, 11:30:25 AM
Can we keep Legacy out of this and focus on the ship?

Ehm...as I know Phoenix it will be included in UUM (surprise  :shock:) and maybe ported to BC...I'm not sure whether he can even do that himself, so let's say what he says on that.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 04, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
Wat about rainbow coloured then??
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Billz on May 04, 2009, 06:01:05 PM
Consider the matter dropped.

Both ships are awesome. They will be making this years download list for me.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! UPDATED PICS - 3.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 04, 2009, 06:53:18 PM
Well the bird of prey i think i should redo, as im a 1000 x better at everything i do than i was back then, as that was my first completed legacy model, i think maybe i should ask a admin to clean the thread, even if i am half to blame for it lol. the battle bird is nearly finished probably 2 more weeks then i'll start on the BOP as im working on the Strider's Textures. i got a few ideas for some more romulans, i can't explain it i hate the rommies, but im really into designing their ships at the moment lol. i want to do a modified veriant of the klingon bop with a romulan bird on the bottom, but with somthing diffrent, dunno wat but it's somthing i wanna do lol ok more pics in next couple of day's, been really ill so no work on her today
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 07, 2009, 03:43:01 AM
ok thought i'd give u guys an update so far, She's STILL not finished and the bird dont even have a neck yet :P but here are some more pics comments pls people

(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-top3.jpg)

(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/battlebird/bb-bottom3.jpg)

i personal love the effect of the hull lines with the slight rusted tint to them, wat u guys think???
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: FarShot on May 07, 2009, 07:12:57 AM
I never thought I'd say this, but it looks like a realistic TOS ship. :lol:
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: rengers on May 07, 2009, 07:32:41 AM
love the textures, excellent work!
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Nebula on May 07, 2009, 11:32:30 PM
don't think I commented on this so.... WOW!

very nice job :D
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Kirk on May 08, 2009, 12:11:37 AM
This looks very well done. If you told me it was canon, I'd believe you.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 08, 2009, 02:07:14 AM
yer shame its not :( i'm going to wait untill some one dose a high quaility connie *non refit* and try and re-write the entriprise incident :D lol
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 08, 2009, 02:02:38 PM
ok she's 99.0% done and im now doing final tweaks to make her slick, now comes the fun part.....any one want to convirt it and set it up for bc for me???
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on May 09, 2009, 12:33:17 PM
ok she's now ready to hp and convirt for bc, anyone willing to help me out here
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! !!DONE!!! HP anyone?? - 9.05.09
Post by: Dalek on May 09, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
*puts hand up shyly* Can I help out? At least with hp'ing? Converting to BC isn't my strong suit.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! !!DONE!!! HP anyone?? - 9.05.09
Post by: MarkyD on May 09, 2009, 02:22:47 PM
Looks great mate, good job  8)
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! !!DONE!!! HP anyone?? - 9.05.09
Post by: Anduril on May 11, 2009, 12:32:55 PM
It's a cool ship, I like what you have done with the design.

Not knowing legacy I would guess this ship is an upgrade of the older warbird?  If so being a stubborn old TOS head I can at least justify in my head the removal of the old plasma launcher, rework of the structure and installation of the boom to make the ship viable for many extra years. 

If it isn't an upgrade well, I still likes it and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Title: Re: Battle Bird 2.0 REMAKE! NEARLY DONE!!! - 7.05.09
Post by: Starforce2 on May 13, 2009, 11:12:47 PM
ok she's now ready to hp and convirt for bc, anyone willing to help me out here

I thought you'd have sent this to me by now? lol. Already said I'd do it when you asked a couple days ago. At any rate, you better hurry up..it's getting warm here and I'm spending my free time outside instead of modding...and as soon as I get the new battlestations going..