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Title: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 15, 2009, 09:39:58 AM
Here is my current registry work. Its pretty rough...Im still getting the hang of working with vectors and text, it comes up with some positioning errors on the letters that I have to correct, but overall I think it is an improvement.

I am reworking a few spots on this mesh, and finishing up the textures. It wont be a great texture job, but it will get me ready to texture the Ares, so I figured this one needed to be finished first.

Let me know how you think the current registry looks. I am using Federation Wide.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on May 15, 2009, 10:16:03 AM
I think it looks good so far. Its just that i dont really like the position on the wings. Perhaps making them a straight line and place them higher, later with some nice glows to lighten them that might look good. Just a thought, though  :D
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Centurus on May 15, 2009, 01:16:58 PM
Different font probably won't hurt either. 
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 15, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
Can you show me what you mean as far as position? And I am open to font suggestions...I was told this is the proper registry font.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Dalek on May 15, 2009, 05:35:34 PM
Most TNG onwards font is the Federation Starfleet font. At least thats the one I've got. But I personally like the font you're using right now. Seems suitable for a ship of the SFMC (Starfleet Marine Corps. It is an SFMC or is it something else which I've forgotten?).
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Phaser on May 15, 2009, 09:49:17 PM
Hey, I remember this ship!  Looking good!

It's been a while, Raven Night.  Nice to see you again!
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 16, 2009, 06:37:23 AM
Hey phaser :)

Yep, this is an SFMC ship. I tried to find a combo that could still roll off the tongue like USS. After speaking out a few combos SMS seemed to work.

I personally like the ship designation used as a prefix instead of the standard NCC...this denotes this as a definite warship, much like current-day designations.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Phaser on May 16, 2009, 11:03:11 PM
Remind me again what SMS stands for.  Maybe....

Starfleet Marine Squadron?
Starfleet Marine Ship?
Strawberry Milk Shake?

 :)
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 17, 2009, 04:38:07 AM
Here you go. This is what I came up with.


SMS: Starfleet Marine corps Starship

All Marine Corps vessels are marked with class, then designation in catalog

Example: CDN-23 SMS Infinity   Combat fleet Dreadnought

Mainline Vessels

CDN: Dreadnought
CBB: Battleship
CCX: Battlecruiser
CCA: Cruiser
CDD: Destroyer
CFF: Frigate

Fleet Vessels

CL: Patrol Ship
CY: Heavy shuttle/Drop Ship
CG: Fighter/Shuttle

Special Designations

YDDS: Space Dock Type A
YDDL: Space DOck Type 2

YVA: Starbase
YLV: Battlestation

F/A: Fighter/Attack craft
A/T: Assault/Transport craft

MAU: Mechanized Assault Unit





Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Nexxus21 on May 17, 2009, 02:09:46 PM
 8) Finally So shes going to be a destroyer then cool :!: You have a size comparison chart ie vs saber Akira steamrunner :?:
Sorry I know your working on the registry...
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 18, 2009, 01:59:06 AM
Well, I dont have a skinny Akira, but I do have a galaxy and sov. Here is a set of pics with the approx scale (not set yet) for the Falcon compared to the Ares, Sov and Galaxy.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: FourChan on May 19, 2009, 02:05:48 AM
That's one tiny federation starship. I hope it has some muscle behind it's teeth.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Nexxus21 on May 19, 2009, 10:05:25 PM
That's what I'm talking about size appears to be spot on 8)

On another note: It seems every time I find a reference to this ship it always seems to disappear. Hopefully this will stick.

So have you decided to nix the saucer sep idea :?:

Hope you don't mind but here are a few shots I had squirreled away and a brief synopsis which you supplied for those that aren't familiar with this ship:

"...this ship is small, bigger than the defiant but still on the small side. It would be the Federation equivilant of a BOP. Its armament is limited...one torp launcher fore and aft, though they are quantum launchers, 4 medium range phase disruptors in the nose, 4 heavy phase disruptors in the nacelle struts, all quick load like the Defiant....and that is pretty much it besides the single phase emitters scattered about the hull for point defense. This ship is not intended to go nose to nose with a capital ship.

Where this ship shines is its speed at impulse/warp and it's menuverability. All three are rediculous...this ship is actually faster than the Defiant at impulse, equal at warp but can maintain high warp for long periods of time. It is also slightly more menuverable at impulse, due in large part to the monsterous RCS thrusters and quad impulse engines. From head to toe this ship was designed for one thing....speed.

Armor suffers as a result, not quite up to par with the Defiant. There is not as much ablative armor on this vessel, and shielding is about equal to the Defiant, though this ship is larger. This ship does have a sensor cloak equipped however, allowing it to escape lock-on from all but the shortest distances while operating at full capacity.

Firing torpedoes at this ship would be almost useless....if you could get a lock, the ship would probably outrun the torpedo, shake off the lock, or just destroy it when it is close to the ship. Phasers are much more effective against this vessel...".



(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7060/ussfalcon2.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ussfalcon2.jpg)

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2984/ussfalcon1.th.jpg) (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ussfalcon1.jpg)


Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: FourChan on May 20, 2009, 01:58:22 AM
I like this ship, this ship could be used in more fields than just assaults and what not. I was thinking that the ship could also fill the roles of:

Light Scout
Medical Ship
Boarder Patrol and defense
Transport

So when you're done you should add a few of those classes along the line of it. Variations of a ship is a good thing, most people don't implement a lot of them, but if you look at the Federation they take one ship and have multiple variants of it.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 20, 2009, 04:18:29 AM
Yes, this vessel was intended as the workhorse of the 3rd fleet, but a specific one...any job that requires a quick ship instead of a powerful one. This ship is no slouch, but compared to other vessels in the fleet it is light on weaponry, favoring tactics and speed. I could see it filling deep space patrol and escort duties.

Much like its spirit brethren the Klingon BOP.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Villain on May 20, 2009, 04:30:33 AM
Definitely can picture a few of them around a bigger vessel. Mate, your works bring a unique approach to Fed designs I've never seen before, while retaining a strong feel of the latest fed design (I can definitely see the likeness in Sovereign design from the top), and you continue to amaze me. Have a cookie pal.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Lionus on May 20, 2009, 01:43:05 PM
you have my download.  :whenitsdone
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Furyofaseraph on May 20, 2009, 01:58:26 PM
you have my download.  :whenitsdone

I agree.
Raven I have always liked your Post-TNG ships. What's the word on downloading them? I would love to add them to my fleet, once I get to that timeframe.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: szekeres2008 on May 21, 2009, 03:56:31 AM
 :shock: This ship is huge! looks very promising, you have my download too.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Kirk on May 21, 2009, 08:15:35 AM
This ship is huge!
The Falcon? No it's not. I mean, in relation to humans, sure, but in relation to a Galaxy class or a Sovereign, nope.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Furyofaseraph on May 21, 2009, 10:18:45 AM
It looks like it has smiley faces on the impulse decks.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 21, 2009, 11:49:38 AM
Hehe.

Yes, this ship is on the small size compared to most other vessels.

Here is a pic of the latest texture work, finishing up some reworking here and there, corrections and the like. Then its on to the ventral hull.

Note a few things...I decided, since this is a warship, to darken the textures a bit, leave the main registry unlit but light a nameplate in the nose, and keep the lighting a bit darker then normal. Generally lighting inside the ship is about equal to the lighting on the episode "Yesterdays Enterprise", TNG.

Also corrected some window size problems. Most of the quarters windows are full length, where others are only half windows.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Kirk on May 21, 2009, 11:58:56 AM
Now that is cool!
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Villain on May 21, 2009, 12:17:46 PM
Agreed completely.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 28, 2009, 02:23:34 AM
Ok, a few more changes and tweaks, and I am getting ready to texture the bottom.

First, the nose...I removed the small cannons on the lateral edge of the saucer and moved them underneath the saucer on retracting pylons (they sit in a bay and extend out when needed), cleaned them up a bit and increased them in size. I felt that the ship needed a weapon that could be used at close range with a bit of a punch. I also added a second torp tube and disruptor points on the lateral saucer edge. I intend to add a number of disruptor points across the hull to increase coverage, but will probably leave this ship phaser strip free.

As you can see, I also modified the lighting inside the cowl of the nav deflector assembly. I may tweak it a bit more to get it perfect...its not quite there yet.

On the hull I redid the windows and the escape pods to bring them to proper scale.

For the aft quarter I added another nameplate, though I still need to fix the cutoff on the bottom of the illumination area. I also illuminated each of the hangar doors.

Let me know what you think sofar.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 30, 2009, 04:38:53 AM
Looking for opinions on the changes and progress sofar.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Dalek on May 30, 2009, 04:45:08 AM
Blood red deflector dish? Certainly...new around Fed based ships. :P
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: MarkyD on May 30, 2009, 07:49:49 AM
Looks real good mate, not too sure about the deflector colour, its kinda not right with me, (but thats just my opinion) but i think she is shaping up nicely, and the SB look nice too ;)
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: FarShot on May 30, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
Everything is perfect in my opinion, I'd take it now in fact. :)
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Phaser on May 30, 2009, 02:51:56 PM
I'm loving the glow around the deflector.  Nice job with that!  And I like the new weapons' placement.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on May 30, 2009, 03:16:53 PM
Thanks guys. The red deflector is a signature of Marine Corps vessels. They use a different deflector system then the rest of the fleet. It was a klingon/federation codesign...a bit less efficient but much more resistant to damage.

All of the Marine Corps vessels were codesigned by fed and klingon engineers.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Nexxus21 on May 30, 2009, 06:54:04 PM
Every time I think this is done you come up with something to make it even better. Like the idea of the disruptors and pulse cannons w/o phaser strips. This things going to be the equivalent of an A-10 Warthog when shes done just faster... :lol:
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on June 02, 2009, 10:35:31 AM
Ok, a few more changes.

I decided the paneling on the saucer, as well as the shape needed a little bit of a redo. Here is the latest with registries in place.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Dalek on June 02, 2009, 12:30:36 PM
Ooh, I like the darkened plating. :D
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: FarShot on June 02, 2009, 12:33:43 PM
 :assimilate
I want to assimilate this into my computer now!!!!  RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!!!!

EDIT-
Oh, join the Borg.  We have cookies.
+1 Cookie
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on June 02, 2009, 09:11:35 PM
Im glad you guys like it...I was a little iffy about it, but eventually I felt the grey was too prevalent on the saucer, and it needed more dark to match its personality. I might still section up the part on the saucer itself a bit, give it a more tile like look.

I am trying to avoid a serpent like look, since this ship should invoke a bird like presence.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Shadowknight1 on June 02, 2009, 10:12:11 PM
Well, though I can't really avoid saying it, it looks like a raven. :P  Pretty cool there.
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Billz on June 02, 2009, 10:15:51 PM
Now that is a beauty.

Make sure to give me a call when you need beta testers. Are you willing to do alternate registery textures so that we can choose if we want it as a Federation ship or Marine Core ship?
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Nexxus21 on June 03, 2009, 08:45:53 PM
Your going to hate me for this :!: The ships is great but now I think you need a special marine shuttle or drop ship.. I've only been following this ship for  almost 3 years you'd think I'd learn to keep my mouth shut.. :lol: Just a thought....
Title: Re: Falcon registry work...
Post by: Raven Night on June 10, 2009, 01:13:06 PM
Actually, if the idea of the Starfleet Marine Corps catches on, and others like the logos and red deflectors I am using then I hope members of the community will step up to make their own ships in the 3rd fleet.

Ill have some updates posted soon. Working on textures and mesh corrections atm.