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Title: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, fixed listing of ships, now have graphics issue.
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 07:11:01 PM
Hi there.

I've recently reinstalled BC to do some video capture/gaming for a friends Starfleet chapter. Well, the base install plus 1.1 works fine. No problems there.

I downloaded, installed and added frontier via BCMP, and added the ship files for the JoA after stumbling over what I THINK is the right way.

So, I load and viola... this BSOD takes over the game.

I don't have a mess of mods on this as it's a fresh install, and I've only tried adding one ship. I worked the tutorial on getting a testmode console up and have captured the following.

http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/bakerco502/?action=view&current=troubleshoot.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/bakerco502/?action=view&current=troubleshoot.jpg)
(http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/bakerco502/?action-view&current=troubleshoot.jpg)
I really appreciate any help people can provide.

Oh, and I have the latest greatest video card drivers.... system seems sound etc... I've ran though the basics before I sat to write this.

:)

mucho thanks

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD
Post by: ACES_HIGH on July 27, 2009, 07:27:29 PM
ok, undo whatever you changed to add this ship, it sounds like you installed it wrong, Download and install the Bridge Commander Universal Tool, and follow the included tutorial to install the ship using that instead.  It's very easy to make a mistake trying to install with BCMP for the first time.
Title: Re: Help with BSOD
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 07:31:52 PM
I ran BCMP, went to packager > Game tools > Ship Plugin, found the ship stuff, and added it from there.

I got a dialogue box that said the ship has been added to the game.

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD
Post by: ACES_HIGH on July 27, 2009, 08:13:37 PM
Try installing it with BCUT, instead, that works for any mod that requres BCMP or BCMI, BCMP doesn't like custom races, but you should be able to do that just fine in BCUT, or you can install it with R3 as a submenu to Federation Ships.
Title: Re: Help with BSOD
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 08:27:22 PM
installed, and ran through it.
plugin created etc...

same prob.

Is there something i need to remove from the first attempt before this could work?

the first attempt i had it as a federation ship btw

Ken

Title: Re: Help with BSOD
Post by: Nebula on July 27, 2009, 08:47:38 PM
then shouldn't this line in the custom ship file...

foundation.shipdef.joa = foundation.R3shipdef

be

foundation.shipdef.joa = foundation.shipdef

showed up in your error report.
Title: Re: Help with BSOD
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 09:14:06 PM
Ok, thanks for all the help so far...

I do like to try and solve my own problems... so here is where I am now..

I've gotten the game to load again.. I just uninstalled everything and started over.

I've repeated the steps I've used with both BCMP and BCUT, and both times it goes through with no errors.

The game still loads, but the new ship does not show up in my QB menu. I've added a menu item and made sure the ship was enabled in BCMP, but no dice.

to the Nebula. What filename is the custom ship file? I did a look, but nothing jumped out at me

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: Nebula on July 27, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
when you enable the ship in BCMP and BCUT it creates the custom/ship file under the ship name...

oh when you use BCUT it may save the custom ship file in a folder under BCUT's main folder.

it would then need to be moved to the custom/ships folder in BC.
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: ACES_HIGH on July 27, 2009, 09:35:52 PM
make sure you delete the matching .pyc files when you remove a ship
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 09:37:03 PM
under /scripts/ships in my install dir, I have a JofA.py file and under /scripts/Custom/Ships I have a JofA.pyc file

is that what you were talking about?

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
under /scripts/ships in my install dir, I have a JofA.py file and under /scripts/Custom/Ships I have a JofA.pyc file

is that what you were talking about?

Ken


I removed everything and started from scratch. Made sure all directories were deleted, and even did a reboot afterwards.

I've gotten the game to work, I just can't get the ship to be a playable option yet.

Making progress though!

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: Nebula on July 27, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
can you link to the ship??
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
yessir

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/USS_Joan_of_Arc_galaxy_x_variant;89253
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: Nebula on July 27, 2009, 10:15:11 PM
the ship already comes with a custom ship file you do not need to use BCMP or BCUT on it...

see if it works if you just copy and paste the ship into your BC install and nothing else with the ship.
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 10:20:27 PM
did that, no dice.

I know it works, because my buddy has used it.



I did that with the footage he captured.

my goal was to do it in widescreen, better resolution etc...

I'd ask him, but he's not that saavy. I doubt he'd know how he got it to work

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: ACES_HIGH on July 27, 2009, 11:21:30 PM
what else do you have installed this time?
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 27, 2009, 11:38:53 PM
1.1 patch
BCMP
BCUT
JoA

that's it. only other thing i've done is given myself widescreen support by tweaking the config file
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: Nebula on July 28, 2009, 12:16:51 AM
uh... are you sure that tweaking of the config file isn't what's caused this BSOD??

try this again without that...
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: NeoKaede on July 28, 2009, 05:03:23 AM
1.1 patch
BCMP
BCUT
JoA

that's it. only other thing i've done is given myself widescreen support by tweaking the config file

Stupid question: did you install Foundation?
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 08:48:16 AM
uh... are you sure that tweaking of the config file isn't what's caused this BSOD??

try this again without that...

fixed the BSOD with a re-install. it works now, I just can't get the JoA to show up in the list of playable ships

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 08:49:05 AM
1.1 patch
BCMP
BCUT
JoA

that's it. only other thing i've done is given myself widescreen support by tweaking the config file

Stupid question: did you install Foundation?


I believe so, when I first started BCMP it asked if I wanted to install foundation, so I said yes.

Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: Nebula on July 28, 2009, 09:12:11 AM
ok another question... have you turned on the mutators??
also... when you used the custom/ship file it came with it created it's own menu group...
it wouldn't be in the fed.
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 09:29:19 AM
that does not sound familar. I remember seeing the option in one of the two mod programs. but didnt do anything with it.

I'm off to work now, but will check it when i get home this evening. Cross your fingers :)


Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: Nebula on July 28, 2009, 09:30:54 AM
you must enable the mutators in the config menu in BC before any mods will show up...
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 06:21:01 PM
Ok, that fixed the JoA problem.

BUT....

Now I have a weird graphics issue.

http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/bakerco502/?action-view&current=ohnowwhat.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/bakerco502/?action-view&current=ohnowwhat.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/bakerco502/ohnowwhat.jpg)

I tried another ship(constellation) and it has the same issues. you can see it in the viewscreen.

doesnt seem to happen with stock ships, and i've tried several diff systems.

also checked to verify i have the latest video drivers
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: MLeo on July 28, 2009, 06:25:40 PM
You are missing NanoFXv2Beta.

But make sure you use BCUT!
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, but can't get the ship to show in the QB menu
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 06:30:54 PM
I did that, via BCUT, same problem :(


Ken
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, fixed listing of ships, now have graphics issue.
Post by: MLeo on July 28, 2009, 06:34:03 PM
Did you enable the mutator?
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, fixed listing of ships, now have graphics issue.
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
Yea, I do. I've gotten the soverign 2.0 (with installer file) to work. it shows up and looks beautiful. these other two... not so much yet
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, fixed listing of ships, now have graphics issue.
Post by: ACES_HIGH on July 28, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
have you turned all the nanoFX settings on in the nanoFX config menu?
Title: Re: Help with BSOD ---fixed game, fixed listing of ships, now have graphics issue.
Post by: kkopacki on July 28, 2009, 10:06:22 PM
It turns out I didnt actually have it installed... i had a fix for installed.. my bad

It works now

So very much thanks to all of you who limped me through this :)

Ken