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BC Forums => BC Bridge Modding => Topic started by: Lurok91 on April 02, 2010, 08:10:40 PM
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Assuming I'll finish Rotarran, and Baz the TMP Ent/Reliant/Grissom, are there any key bridges missing? I was contemplating the D-7 but a hell of a job :) Any suggestions?
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Klingon bridge from TMP.
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Well with the exception of STIII all Klingon bridges are pretty much the same, although in ST IV they had those consoles in front of the captain's chair, so the Rotaran covers a lot of Klingon designs from TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT. (Not that I'm discouraging you from doing another one mind you ;) )
The Nova is a key bridge that I can think of that could probably be done easy (easy is a relative term). Use the Intrepid animations for Saffi and Prometheus for the rest, working from the Prometheus bridge itself. The Romulan Warbird bridge could be modified from the Nebula to create the one from DS9's "The Die is Cast." Runabout cockpit is one we don't have, along with the Delta Flyer, you could probably adapt the type 11 cockpit animations to work with those, I'm sure there's more I just can't think of them off the top of my head.
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Technically, we sort of do have the Runabout cockpit. You just have to do some slight alterations to the Type 11 cockpit. Sort of the reverse of what was done in filming.
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I would love to see the Galaxy class Battle Bridge make an appearance using the Ambie Bridge as a template.
Also how about the Hathaway and Bozeman bridges too as they all use the same basic set.
Also the Nebula bridge could be reworked into the Saratoga's bridge.
Well that's my two cents.
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I was going to start a new thread about this but posting it in here seems more appropriate... Sovereign Class Bridge.
We do have outstandingly beautiful Sovereigns to play with, (the JLS Sovereign springs to mind), but no real FC or INS/NEM quality Bridge to pair with it. I'm not sure which Sovereign Bridge everyone would want, considering the view screen changes between First Contact and Insurrection, but personally I like the Insurrection one the best.
First Contact's Holographic View Screen compared to the one from Nemesis, (which is the same as Insurrection)...
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/ChargerSRT8/Star%20Trek/Sov_brdg.jpg)
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Shuttles the type 11 cockpit is brilliant, so I would love to see a type 6 and 8. And the small type 15 would be good.
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You could ask Newman if he would allow you to port his Danube cockpit (originally meant for BC, now it's for Excalibur) into BC and work on it ;)
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personally, I wouldn't mind a copy of Klaa's personalized "gunner's rig" bridge setup...about the only thing decent besides the humor that came out of trek 5.
btw, is DS9's Ops too much to bother with? or can we get the DS9fx guys on that a little?
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Next to no race except the Federation has Bridges (Ok, there are the Galor and a old BoP bridge and your Klingon Bridge but that's it), so (as Nero) I would love a Romulan Bridge. A Dominion Bridge would also be great and of course as this is BC a Kessok Bridge, maybe a Gorn and a Ferengi Bridge, a Vulcan Bridge would be neat, a new NX era Bridge, a Reman Bridge, a TOS and TMP Romulan Bridges... ... ... :hithead: . Hey you asked!
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Most of all suggestions are great, but EVERYONE, is overlook the Olympic [capt beverly picard].
OH and Non Trek , Galaxy Quest.
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Thanks for all useful feedback to date :) Will run a poll, but some thoughts so far:
* said D-7 but meant the Amar/Ktinga bridge from ST:TMP. That would be a longterm proj.
* various BoP - will probably try and do a ST V/VI variant; the periscope would be fun to try but a pain to animate!
* Romulan - a revamped Nebula for Warbird, and Sov for Norexan probably easiest. Mainly just changing some consoles and details, then retexturing
* Shuttles - the Type 11 could prob be modified relatively easily for the ST V Galileo, Generations shuttle and maybe the Runabout if not able to port the Newman/Excal version. The Type 6/8 would be a little more work.
* Nova - worth a try as could see how might be done.
* Unless there was a huge demand, the various reconfigs (hathaway, battle bridge, saratoga etc) could be retextures.
* Some bridges will just be too big a job or need more info: DS9 ops, Scimitar, Jem Hadar, Delta Flyer.
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just though of a relativly easy scripters fix. the Kessok bridge is whole and ready to go, not a partial like all the other non-fed bridges. it may only need the placement scripts in it.
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I could cover any retextures, Relativity bridge is already made tho it's not finished and I dunno how much completed it is ...
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Didn't know there was a Kessok and Relativity bridge. More info? :) Was also surprised no-one mentioned JJprise bridge.
Anyway, here's rough draft of possible RomWarB using nebula config (seated science and engineering will be scripted to setstanding, natch)...
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BC itself has a full on bridge file for the kessok. it was most likely planed to be converted for use later, as it's as intact as the D and E bridges, has a full set of textures ready to go, appears to have everything but a viwscreen access setup (the frame appears to be there). try browsing through bc's goodies, including the sets, with nifskope (which I use for my reskins).
no-one's mentioned the JJ bridge probably because everybody took one look and said either "that's friggin ugly" or "that's too damn complicated". besides, knowing our resident JJers, wiley's probably allready got it in the creationm list :P
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Was also surprised no-one mentioned JJprise bridge.
Well to be honest I had a little :drink3: when I posted my suggestions so...yeah :D
Warbird bridge is looking good so far. If you go to You Tube you can search for DS9's The Die is Cast they have the full episode there, if you're in need of reference pics. Thanks for making the Warbird bridge happen it'll be nice to have some alien variety.
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just though of a relativly easy scripters fix. the Kessok bridge is whole and ready to go, not a partial like all the other non-fed bridges. it may only need the placement scripts in it.
lolno picture related
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heh the kessok bridge looks rather lame - might be better off just building one from scratch :P
also, regarding the warbird bridge - i wonder if the one built by Occas in 2003 is around somewhere? it had issues, but could prolly be improved upon...
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regarding the warbird bridge - i wonder if the one built by Occas in 2003 is around somewhere? it had issues, but could prolly be improved upon...
I used to keep a burn a bunch of mods onto CD's when I was younger and didn't have high-speed (saved time from re-downloading on dial-up), that warbird bridge was on one of those CD's, I'll dig around for it but the chances of me finding it are slim considering I've moved a couple times since then :(
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Wasn't the semi-complete romulan bridge on the main FileFront site somewhere.
I remember having it for a little while. Must have deleted it since then.
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crap. I was hoping someone would "finish" the Kessok Bridge...it the same format I designd for P-Star bridges...only the captian sits down :P
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Wasn't the semi-complete romulan bridge on the main FileFront site somewhere.
ya thats the one i was referring to... i couldnt find it on the FF main site, iu tried searching "Warbird Bridge", "Occas", and "Dreamyards" but nothing came up...
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looking now...
closest I've found so far is a romulanized intrepid bridge
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Couldn't find that CD unsurprisingly. Jimmy what are the odds sneaker98 still has it? if I recall correctly he corrected the floating crew problem way back when, and that Warbird bridge was on his list.
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sneaker really wasnt on the bridge modding team all too much, and he has long ago left the BC scene... even viper doesnt have it, so if no one else does then i guess that bridge is gone for good...
i suppose it is possible that mark or sean might have it, but i dont think they do either :idk:
i know that i used to have it, but i dont seem to anymore...
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aha - i found it! it was on ff's main site... there are problems with the bridge, but it is here:
http://www.filefront.com/954666/warbirdbridge.zip
come to think about it, i think this was more or less a nebula bridge retext with a few changes to the bridge model... ah well, maybe someone can take it from where it is to improve upon?
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Wow I thought I'd never see that thing again! +cookie Jimmy (I almost typed karma like this was BCS lol)
Not that it matters now but I figured since sneaker was the one fixing them back then he'd have it, and I saw him register at BCS a few months ago so I figured he may be lurking around from time to time.
EDIT: Well, this bridge is a little messed up, but it may be salvageable. I think it's mostly scripting errors but the model could use some work too (not to mention a re-texture, unfortunately the textures are in NIF's :( ), mostly to fix up some weirdness and the viewscreen (it's too Fed).
In the long run though it may be better to wait for Lurok's new one.
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well, for one thing, it is using the Galaxy Bridge animations...
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I think Saffi is supposed to be using the nebula animations (I don't have it on that particular install that you saw in the shots). Galaxy animations seem to work for it. Hmm, I'm gonna play with it for s**ts & giggles.
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Lurok, if I can help ease the modelling workload any I'd be more than willing to assist. I've been toying with the idea of modelling Ops for some time...
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Lurok, if I can help ease the modelling workload any I'd be more than willing to assist. I've been toying with the idea of modelling Ops for some time...
Thanks for offer, Prime. Anytime...
If can get permissions, is anyone interested in this Warbird being revamped? Doesn't seem too bad, and can hopefully fix problems. Would also save me remodelling from scratch (lol). Congrats on finding it as well. Wonder if there are any other abandoned WIPs around? And it's nice/useful to have a new set of crew positions.
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On that note, the warbird bridge shows how much simply adding junk around the room can improve the atmosphere.
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If can get permissions, is anyone interested in this Warbird being revamped? Doesn't seem too bad, and can hopefully fix problems. Would also save me remodelling from scratch (lol). Congrats on finding it as well. Wonder if there are any other abandoned WIPs around? And it's nice/useful to have a new set of crew positions.
I'd love to see it get fixed, but you'd have to do some remodeling on this one too, and an entire new set of scripts to get rid of errors like these shown below. It happened when I switched from the Rotaran bridge to the Warbird, and the same thing happens when I switch to the Warbird from any other bridge (old error known as the "floating crew problem").
Long story short, I'm not sure how much of a time saver it would be considering the revised scripting and the textures being in NIF, but whatever you think is easier (a new mesh or fixing this one) I'm all for it.
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I'd like a Warbird bridge and a JJ bridge, personally.
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Probably best to fix this one, with new textures, and work on a new mesh later on.
On topic:
Missing key bridges:
Wells Timeship Bridge
Scimitar Bridge (Nemesis)
Sona Bridge (Insurrection)
Nova Class Bridge
S.S. Raven Bridge
That's all that I can think of for now.
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lol here comes a Bridge Request Thread :P
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Nif textures can be extracted by loading the model nif into Milkshape. It automatically creates tgas.
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Thank you to all voters so far...looks like Shuttles in lead :)
Re: Warbird bridge, leaving aside texture and script probs, I compared it to bridge as appears in DS9 and I gotta say I think Nebula bridge is a closer match for size and atmosphere. If I was to work on this, I think I'd rather try and revamp Neb to match rather than remodel the old Warbird bridge. Any thoughts?
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Klingon bridge from TMP.
I already have the TMP torp bay built from trek 2 and 3. It was a redress / repaint of the TMP D7 bridge.
No promises but would not take much to alter it for use as a Klingon bridge.
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Thank you to all voters so far...looks like Shuttles in lead :)
Re: Warbird bridge, leaving aside texture and script probs, I compared it to bridge as appears in DS9 and I gotta say I think Nebula bridge is a closer match for size and atmosphere. If I was to work on this, I think I'd rather try and revamp Neb to match rather than remodel the old Warbird bridge. Any thoughts?
Agreed, the old Occas Warbird bridge is a bit too big and has model issues as it is, so it would probably be less of a headache to work from the Nebula bridge.
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In my free time i have build these 3 bridge! these are my very first bridges from scratch!!
i make a "stargazer", a generic alien bridge and first aproach jj bridge! there are not finished!
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From small acorns... :) A good start on those bridges. Keep up the work...
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And just a note re: Newman's Excal Runabout on his original thread:
" The danube sets were my first attempt at modding, it was to be my contribution to the bc modding scene and all the awesome work put into it.
Unfortunately, however, due to some BC's engine limitations, the specific layout of the sets causes problems that can't be fixed at the moment. Also, if I were to do these today, I'd do a much better job at it
So the bad news - no danube sets for BC.
The good news - they will come out for Excalibur, looking a lot better then what you've seen so far."
So will prob have to be Type11 remodel...
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if nothing else a must have is a saber class bridge...that would be a good idea since there never really was one designed....im gonna make a mesh on sketchup of its floor
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I would love to see a re-dress of the nebula bridge as a generic DS9 / first contact / DW era bridge that could be used for ships of that era (refits of older ships like the centaur and miranda DW refits, ships of that era such as the saber, steamrunner, norway, possibly akira, etc).
I think maybe a generic mid-TNG re-dress of the nebula bridge would be cool, too... If you look at the bridge of the Saratoga in "The Emissary", that's kinda what I was thinking... hopefully it wouldn't be too hard to do! This kind of mid-late TNG generic bridge could be used for all W359 era ships, as well as TNG refits of older ships like constellations, mirandas, centaurs, excelsiors, etc.
I'm new to BC modding, but these seem to be ones that could be done with relatively little time? Maybe I'm wrong?
Thanks for the consideration! :)
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Well that indeed wouldn't be too hard to do as it's just a retexture.
btw. here's something you might find cool ;) http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Generic_Bridge_Module_Early_TNG;97575
an awesome generic bridge made by Barihawk, it's meant to fill the place of early-TNG era bridge
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my only suggestion in this is: would someone PLEASE fix the TOS bridges for better use. I had to throw the TOS bridge pack out because it kept crashing my install (and taking over as the default)
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there is nothing wrong with the (3rd era) TOS bridges... whatever issue you were experiencing, im afraid thats unique to you only... which could be a result of many things; not having BP Core installed, or whatever... you can please feel free to create a new thread regarding that issue and hopefully someone will be able to troubleshoot it with ya...
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Galaxy Battle bridge
Pauster Bridge [beverly crushers medical ship]
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Galaxy Battle bridge
The Twok bridge could be retextured to suit the early alternate TNG bridges.
Stargazer and Ent-D battle bridge to name but two.
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I've got a finished model of the stargazer bridge kicking about somewhere... think Sean had it last and was starting to texture, it was part of the enterprise pack
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hello, Deep Space 9 center of operations!!!
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DS9 Ops would be too complex and too large for a BC bridge IIRC; i remember that discussion years ago on BCU...
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I'd love to see a new bridge for Captain Licard's new NX-Class refit. Sketches, floor plans, anything.
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I'd love to see someone take this one on.
(http://api.ning.com/files/gAKfdOcsg7dqQvnbAyfJw6RsCO4KIfuVNj4nR0gpq1HcU29lhieu2l7PaJhDthnH/Bridge.png)
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I'd love to see someone take this one on.
(http://api.ning.com/files/gAKfdOcsg7dqQvnbAyfJw6RsCO4KIfuVNj4nR0gpq1HcU29lhieu2l7PaJhDthnH/Bridge.png)
To hellsgate - Like this :P??
An idea might be to reuse the Prometheus Bridge in a generic jj bridge!
something like this
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ooook guys, before this turns into a Bridge Request thread, perhaps it would be best to wait until Lurok chimes in since this is his thread...
please no one else post after this one except for Lurok...
and if this thread has served its purpose, perhaps it might be best to lock it down...
thx :)
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I still find input useful, so if still ok to keep open J ?
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i prefer not to have a bridge request thread (or a ship request thread for that matter); perhaps it might help if you can recap all the many suggestions made thus far so this thread can be cleaned out?
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In that case, feel free to lock down :)
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we can leave it open; what i mean to suggest is that before any other requests are made, so this isnt a request thread, it might be best if you could go over the requests already made and see if they are anything you wish to do, or dont wish to do or cannot do... :)
or if you have enough ideas already, then the thread can be killed lol
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I guess I've made comments on what possible in previous posts. And main bridge WIP thread is best place for people to check what's current. So feel free to lock down. If people have other bridge suggestions guess can make own posts :)