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Title: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: 086gf on June 22, 2010, 02:22:11 PM
This would be who UGO would want to play most of the notables.

http://www.ugo.com/movies/j-j-abrams-reboots-the-next-generation

Paul Bettany as Picard
Chiwetel Ejiofor as Riker
Mark Strong as Data
Christina Hendricks as Beverly
Mike Henry as Worf
Emmanuelle Chriqui as Troi
Brandon T. Jackson as Geordi
Logan Lerman as Wesley
Mia Wasikowska as Tasha Yar
Michael Sheen as Q
Viola Davis as Guinan
Betty White as Dr. Pulaski
Bobb'e J. Thompson as Alexander
Olivia Wilde as Ro Laren
Cate Blanchett as The Borg Queen
Joe Lo Truglio as Reg Barclay
Rachel Weisz as Vash
Jim Broadbent as Dathon the Tamarian

http://www.ugo.com/movies/deep-space-nine-j-j-abrams-reboot

Idris Elba as Sisko
Anna Kendrick as Kira
Bradley Cooper as Bashir
Malin Akerman as Jadzia
Mark Strong as Odo
Kevin McKidd as Miles
Aziz Ansari as Quark
Mike Henry as Worf
Jon Hamm as Gul Dukat
Martin Starr as Rom
Michael B. Jordan as Jake Sisko
Kathleen Turner as Kai Adami
Danny Trejo as General Martok
Viggo Mortensen as Elim Garak
Ming-Na as Keiko
Jaden Smith as Nog
Damian Young as Weyoun
Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Ezri
Namitha Kapoor as Leeta
Chris Rock as Gowron
Ewen Bremner as the Jem'Hadar
Denis O'Hare as Michael Eddington
Jonah Hill as Morn

Some of the choices I agree with...others...not so much.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: FarShot on June 22, 2010, 03:11:04 PM
Viggo Mortensen as Elim Garak
(http://mimg.ugo.com/201006/47623/viggo-mortensen-as-elim-garak.jpg)
The similarities are scary.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Dalek on June 22, 2010, 03:12:40 PM
Paul Bettany doesn't have that hawkish look Stewart has. And I'm not sure whether thats a bad pic but he looks a tad dead.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Morgan on June 22, 2010, 03:51:27 PM
I hope they're not serious about Worf....
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: JimmyB76 on June 22, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
oh ffs seriously this thread??

JJ-verse is already crap, i highly doubt JJ will ruin TNG and DS9 also...  threads to speculate and have "fun" imagining are ok, but this one is a little bit overboard...  we'll let it run for a while, but it wont have a long life, im sorry to say lol

btw Ming-Na was awesome playing Dr Chen in ER, but she would make a horrible Keiko...
i cant even believe someone was actually paid to write up these two "articles" lol  i mean, just because someone resembles the original actor?  to make a whole article?  chris rock as gowron?? betty white for pulaski?  suuuure, betty white would go over well playing a bitch...
lame...
sorry, but these articles are just stupid...
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: AdmiralKathryn on June 22, 2010, 04:21:04 PM
^^ What he said and I'd just love for them to try VOY, then they really would end up photoned!
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: King Class Scout on June 22, 2010, 05:29:19 PM
who the crap ARE most of those actors?! other than the WWe star, betty White (who's too damn old to play Pulaski), and Rachel Weisz, i haven't heard of most of em.  you gotta give me a "what were they in". 

Viggo as Garak?  BWAHAHAHA...give him Dukat instead!

TNG i could see being pulled off (it's nearing it's 25th anniversary), but it's too soon for any of the newer ones.  I'd rather see JJ reboot TMP.  see how a much younger kirk takes on V'Ger.  don't forget, since Spock is in twice, Spock Prime will, if he's smart, tell everybody about the Borg a century ahead of time.

a JJ reboot of voyager would have ONE positive note...no hammering on the reset button every episode. 

and i think you guys know dang well that the only reason trek got rebooted was so Paramount could make money again.  Milking the cash cow till the bag goes dry :P
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Dalek on June 22, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
don't forget, since Spock is in twice, Spock Prime will, if he's smart, tell everybody about the Borg a century ahead of time.

Erm, no. Hasn't the timeline been damaged enough already? That would be breaking pretty much every temporal law, different universe or not. Q will eventually introduce the Federation to the Borg, whether through the Enterprise D or another unfortunate starship. Not to mention, its been a long while since the Borg kicked their asses.

And also, who in the Federation would believe him? He can't tell anyone his real identity without causing a big monumental...whatever. They'd want to know everything they could get their hands on.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Morgan on June 22, 2010, 06:19:17 PM
Quote from: King Class Scout
TNG i could see being pulled off (it's nearing it's 25th anniversary), but it's too soon for any of the newer ones.

I can see TNG getting a special effects re-doing like TOS got somewhere down the road (when it's not so expensive), but I don't see it (or DS9 and Voyager) getting re-booted. They simply don't need it.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: deadthunder2_0 on June 22, 2010, 06:34:30 PM
wow, just as i finished my JJ Galaxy concept
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: JimmyB76 on June 22, 2010, 07:25:52 PM
lemme guess - the next article will be what who would be the actors for JJ-BSG?  lol

I can see TNG getting a special effects re-doing like TOS got somewhere down the road (when it's not so expensive), but I don't see it (or DS9 and Voyager) getting re-booted. They simply don't need it.
now that is something i would love to see!  a completely remastered TNG and DS9...  with more CGI stuff added in (like when the final Star Wars films were redone in the late 90s)...  imagine the battlescenes and awesome graphics; maybe we could finally see a real full Wolf 359 battle (for the premier of DS9)... 

i dont think they would ever reboot any of the series tho...  it is bad enough they shamed TOS with the movie and ones to follow, i think more people would groan and be upset if they went that far with it, rebooting any of the series...
then again, a rebooted Star Trek: Enterprise might turn out better than the original lol :P
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: King Class Scout on June 22, 2010, 07:56:13 PM
one thing we all agree on is that TNG now needs the remaster.  at least the first couple of seasons (or mabey the Gene-half, seasons 1-4).  the last time I saw a tng rerun, the quality was SO bad...
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Billz on June 22, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
EDIT: Am I the only who likes TNG in it's original physical model format? Don't get me wrong, it would be interesting to see TNG redone with CGI, but I will always prefer the original production eps, no matter how pretty the potential CGI gets.

Also, someone at UGO was actually paid to write an article suggesting those actors to play TNGJJ characters?!?  :facepalm:

You know, after all these months since STXI came out, the "JJ Verse" should technically be called the "ILM-verse" since J.J Abrams didn't actually butt-rape the new Enterprise design in the production CGI process.

Doesn't stop the J.J/ILM verse from being farking carp though, lol.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: JimmyB76 on June 22, 2010, 09:11:26 PM
hmmm...  ya i pretty much agree with your entire post Billz (except that i would love to see TNG remastered lol)
*cookied*
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Morgan on June 22, 2010, 09:16:38 PM
Quote from: JimmyB76
now that is something i would love to see!  a completely remastered TNG and DS9...  with more CGI stuff added in (like when the final Star Wars films were redone in the late 90s)...  imagine the battlescenes and awesome graphics; maybe we could finally see a real full Wolf 359 battle (for the premier of DS9)... 
In all honesty only DS9's first two seasons would need the CGI, and maybe parts of season 3, but for the most part they're fine as is. Of course if I understand correctly all three TNG-era series would need new special effects done for an HD upgrade.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: King Class Scout on June 23, 2010, 07:44:03 AM
EDIT: Am I the only who likes TNG in it's original physical model format? Don't get me wrong, it would be interesting to see TNG redone with CGI, but I will always prefer the original production eps, no matter how pretty the potential CGI gets.

Also, someone at UGO was actually paid to write an article suggesting those actors to play TNGJJ characters?!?  :facepalm:

You know, after all these months since STXI came out, the "JJ Verse" should technically be called the "ILM-verse" since J.J Abrams didn't actually butt-rape the new Enterprise design in the production CGI process.

Doesn't stop the J.J/ILM verse from being farking carp though, lol.

Just sayin'.

what I'M saying is the episodes need reprinted, not completely FX redone (like they had to do with TOS's "shoestring budget" FX)

I'm starting to think the main reason people hate the JJprise is the built in American Distaste for curves.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Villain on June 23, 2010, 09:04:05 AM
Clearly you're unfamiliar with antique american cars.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Locke on June 23, 2010, 12:10:54 PM
Gosh, it's amazing how much Americans are loathed here . . .  :mad:  For some reason, it seems okay to bash us around here, but I'll bet a large chunk of my butt if I were to do the same against, say, South Africans or Koreans or Indians (from INDIA), I would be handed my hat and told to leave.  Hmmmm . . .  :cry:

And am I the ONLY one in Star Trek fandom that actually LIKED the new Trek?!  WTF?
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Villain on June 23, 2010, 12:13:29 PM
Oooh oooh! You can pick on Australia, we really don't mind! Our motto is: "Sod it!". Or it should be.

As for the new Trek, I loved it, but I don't think JJ should or will venture any further forward than TOS/TMP.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Dalek on June 23, 2010, 12:23:39 PM
As for the new Trek, I loved it, but I don't think JJ should or will venture any further forward than TOS/TMP.

Agreed. And to be honest, I sorta want Prime Trek back, somehow. :(
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: King Class Scout on June 23, 2010, 12:59:53 PM
Clearly you're unfamiliar with antique american cars.

actually, I'm well familliar with them.  i prefer Kaiser-Frasier and postwar caddys.  the curves I'm referring to are the mid eighties to mid ninties slushbox sedans with their detuned 140 hose V6's and sub 200 hp V8's that were prevelant at that point.  the generations that they aimed at (for the movie) remember them as slow, worn out and ugly.  there's also a distaste, lately, for "obvious" retro designs.  it doesn't explain the wave of 80's Nostalga currently sweeping Hollywood, though.

Locke: i don't think it's the plot, I think it's more the deliberatly retro-ish design of the JJprise that people don't like.  mostly the nacelles.  and even I think that the Kelvin type engines look better than JJ's male anatomy shaped engines :P  mabey that's a reason the bussards aren't red anymore.

Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: FarShot on June 24, 2010, 01:59:03 AM
Gosh, it's amazing how much Americans are loathed here . . .  :mad:  For some reason, it seems okay to bash us around here, but I'll bet a large chunk of my butt if I were to do the same against, say, South Africans or Koreans or Indians (from INDIA), I would be handed my hat and told to leave.  Hmmmm . . .  :cry:

And am I the ONLY one in Star Trek fandom that actually LIKED the new Trek?!  WTF?

Amen, we Americans are so under-appreciated these days.  And JJ Trek isn't bad (but it certainly is different).

ON A SIDE NOTE:  Locke, have you ever read Ender's Game? :D
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Locke on June 24, 2010, 02:31:35 AM
ON A SIDE NOTE:  Locke, have you ever read Ender's Game? :D

Where do you think I got my name?  Started out on my FS site as Ender and wound up as Locke a few years later.  More like Peter than Andrew, I guess. ;)

Locke & Demosthenes are two of my favorite ideas Card ever came up with.  Unfortunately he wrote the concept into the ground with the Bean series.  Having Bean and Petra do the same thing was a bit too much, if you ask me.

BACK ON TOPIC:

The JJ-verse should never include either TNG or DS9.  The objective was to reinvent the wheel, not the cart or the horse.  Kirk and company are far enough back in years to have a new rendition count as an entirely new idea.  Just like new and old BSG, when you get right down to it, they aren't even the same show.  One was a campy "wagon-train to the stars" and the other is a fast-paced SciFi drama movie.  Both are extremely likable in their own fashions, but neither one is equipped to deal with the other on common ground.  I understand this, and so accept the idea that Roddenberry's vision was different than that of Abrams or Okuda.  Each brought something unique to the storyline and characters, and each has their own ideas about where the show should have it's main purpose.

To give TNG the treatment would simply overcomplicate an already intricate show.  Where the original series had hokey-jokey concepts like "Spock's Brain" and "The Trouble With Tribbles", the Enterprise crew of the 24th century had to deal with complex problems of social commentary far beyond the reach or scope of the original.  Likewise, the new Abrams film chose to take that same direction and expand on it, often coming closer to the Next Gen style of storytelling.

I'll end this diatribe here, since I don't want to tax my own brain by turning it into some sort of goo running out of my ears in response to my own BS. :dance
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Biggins on June 24, 2010, 10:43:49 AM
Locke- best.statement.ever :P

I agree completely, cookie for you :P
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
Post by: Locke on June 24, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
Locke- best.statement.ever :P

I agree completely, cookie for you :P

Thank you, sir. :dance
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: 086gf on July 05, 2010, 03:34:24 PM
Here we go again. This time with Voyager ofcourse. Again kind of lol worthy stuff here.

Gemma Arterton as Janeway
Temuera Morrison as Chakotay(Jango Fett/CLone Trooper)
Justin Timberlake as Tom Paris(lolwut?)
Wood Harris as Tuvok
Mark Strong as the Doctor
Ellen Page as B'Elanna
Timmy Williams as Neelix
Rain as Harry Kim
Teresa Palmer as Kes
Katee Sackhoff as 7of9
Elle Fanning as Naomi Wildman(Dakota's younger sister)
Harry Belafonte as Tuvix
Tilda Swinton as Seska
DJ Qualls as Kar the Kazon-Ogla
Richard Kind as Mark Johnson
The Predalien as Species 8472(lol!)

http://www.ugo.com/movies/j-j-abrams-reboots-star-trek-voyager
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 05, 2010, 03:38:26 PM
oh brother...   :facepalm: :roll
i cannot believe this article-writer gets paid for this junk...

katie sackhoff for 7 of 9???  like, really?  this guy needs to be fired from his job...
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Morgan on July 05, 2010, 03:47:35 PM
Her face really doesn't sell Seven of Nine.

Justin Timberlake as Tom Paris - wtf? Really?
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: FarShot on July 05, 2010, 04:29:58 PM
The Temuera Morrison/Chakotay comparison is scary.  That definitely could work.

However, the Predalien/8472 thing definitely confirmed to me that the writer isn't actually serious.

How many times has Mark Strong showed up?
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Locke on July 05, 2010, 11:05:57 PM
This is all just farcical.  I can't believe you are all getting so riled up about it.  Fire the guy?!  Hire him MORE I say.  I want more laughs like this.  The Justin Timberlake thing had me laughing for a good one earlier!  Ellen Page as Torres?  Funny as hell!  I can just see her and Timberlake trying to start up a romance.  Juno vs the Numbnut!  Huzzah! :funny
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Lionus on July 05, 2010, 11:50:15 PM
Justin Bieber for Wesley!  :evil: :funny
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: deadthunder2_0 on July 06, 2010, 12:23:28 AM
insta-cookie  :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny lol, justin bieber
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Morgan on July 06, 2010, 12:31:10 AM
Casting Justin Bieber as Wesley Crusher would eliminate any small chance of making the character likable - even slightly.  :dontcare:
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: deadthunder2_0 on July 06, 2010, 12:33:21 AM
thats why its funny
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Locke on July 06, 2010, 01:07:16 AM
Kinda off-topic, but someone brought up Wesley.

I've read a couple of places (and seen in the IMDb cast listing) that he was in First Contact, but I can never figure out where.  Anyone know the answer to this?
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Morgan on July 06, 2010, 01:10:38 AM
Kinda off-topic, but someone brought up Wesley.

I've read a couple of places (and seen in the IMDb cast listing) that he was in First Contact, but I can never figure out where.  Anyone know the answer to this?
Actually he was in Nemesis during the wedding scene. He sat at the far end of the table so you can only see him in widescreen versions. All his lines got cut too so he doesn't talk, he just sits there.
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: Biggins on July 06, 2010, 07:03:44 AM
Actually he was in Nemesis during the wedding scene. He sat at the far end of the table so you can only see him in widescreen versions. All his lines got cut too so he doesn't talk, he just sits there.

As it should be :dontcare:
Title: Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
Post by: eclipse74569 on July 09, 2010, 03:12:55 PM
This dude needs to get his species right...Seska was never undercover as a Terran...it was Bajoran LOL

And Jimmy I have to agree with you on 7of9...

Although the little remark on Elle Fanning made me laugh ("Because Dakota Fanning is getting too old" LMAO) as well as JT playing Tom...