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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: Centurus on August 18, 2010, 05:35:09 PM
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I've begun work on my U.S.S. Enforcer, a refit of the TMP Miranda Class. Right now, not much is different from your regular run of the mill Miranda with the exception of the lack of the concave curve on the bottom of the saucer. As the ship is more fleshed out, the differences will be noticeable.
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Boy I sure can't wait to make an MSD for this Beauty...Good work my friend...good work!
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good start got the basic shape down. I dont think anyone has ever done a modified miranda with the exception of that bassmaster ol buzz did so many years ago
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You have me intrigued oh master of the rubber chickens
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Decided to do the phaser placement and also clean up polys on the saucer as well.
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cool! i dont think ive ever seen a Miranda-style ship with phaser arrays rather than just the phaser banks they all usually have...
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This Miranda refit will, hopefully, pack quite a punch. Work is going slowly cause I'm looking over several references to see what details I should add, and what I can do without.
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I've been collecting Mirandas, and have two variants. both of them sport modified galaxy type nacelles. had you gotten up to the point of what engines you were gonna put on, yet?
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Definitely not Galaxy nacelles. When I think of a Miranda with Galaxy nacelles, I think of the old Bassmaster made for Ol' Buzzard of the 9th fleet, of which I used to be an officer in.
Anyway, the nacelles I intend to use will be a modification of the nacelles I'm using on my U.S.S. Resurrection model, but with a different bussard design. I like trying to mix newer tech while still keeping true to the design of the ship, changing only where I deem necessary.
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sounds good! can't wait to see more
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Ok, I've been kinda busy today taking care of a very sick cat of mine. But I figured I might as well post some images with lighting applied and with the warp engines I intend to use on the ship. You can also see some very basic vent intakes, or whatever they are, that are normally found on a Miranda Class. Gotta work on their detail still.
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taking care of a very sick cat of mine.
:( hopefully your kitty will be ok...
the nacelles I intend to use will be a modification of the nacelles I'm using on my U.S.S. Resurrection model, but with a different bussard design. I like trying to mix newer tech while still keeping true to the design of the ship, changing only where I deem necessary.
thats exactly what i was hoping youd say :D :thumbsup:
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For those of you that are wondering, I will be doing away with the traditional torpedo pod and mega phasers. Instead, the Enforcer will have twin weapons pods on either side of the rollbar. Each pod will have a pulse phaser emitter and micro quantum and photon torpedo tubes facing forward, and a pulse phaser emitter and micro photon torpedo launcher facing aft. In place of the old torpedo pod will be a deflector dish pod. The ship will also have twin, mini deflector dishes as well mounted on the top of the hull, towards the aft, on either side of the bridge.
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By quantum, I guess this a post tng ship.
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Yep.
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Started on the twin mini deflectors, and the details that go around them. Not finished yet. I know alot of people are not gonna like what they see, but hey, this is my ship, and I like it. :-D
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I like it. It's always refreshing to see someone take something familiar and make it different.
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*takes a bow* Thanks. I've been wanting to see if I can do this ship, almost as much as I wanted to redo the Resurrection. Speaking of which, I'm gonna need to track down my mapper and see what's going on.
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Speaking of which, I'm gonna need to track down my mapper and see what's going on.
You can borrow my gun if you want. :funny
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hopefully it can handle the kind of shells cent will load into it *cluck cluck*
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Yowza dude, that mesh is starting to look really gorgeous! Those are the sharpest TMP nacelles I've seen in a long while, and I'm especially liking the (bussard?) area!
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TMP revamped to TNG nacelles, without altering the design radically. Yes, those are bussards.
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Some more updates to the model. I've finished making the little details behind the new twin deflector assemblies. I've also meshed in the shuttlebays. Like I said, I am only gonna change things where I deem necessary, and the traditional two shuttlebays in the Miranda class is something that shouldn't be changed, in my opinion anyway.
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Forgot to add the pics.
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Another update:
I've made the pylons. I like how they are. I know some might think that there's something mission where the pylons meet the warp engines. I haven't made the connecting warp joint yet, so I just wanted people to know that.
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oooh, very nice! I love the design!
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Miranda Class has very beautiful lines for being so compact. I'm just trying to update her appearance and capabilities.
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Very nicely done mate
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After looking at your renders, I'm starting to think about re-doing my Reliant. Nice mesh.
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Wiley, please do. I would never tackle a canon ship, at least not until my modeling skills improve even more. But I've seen your work, I want to see a Reliant model from you.
Marky, thanks. I've been really trying my best to make this a practical, yet tasteful upgrade to the Miranda class.
To everyone who's given me cookies, thanks. I went to bed with 25 cookies, now I have 31. Never seen the count go that high for me so fast.
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Wiley, please do. I would never tackle a canon ship, at least not until my modeling skills improve even more. But I've seen your work, I want to see a Reliant model from you.
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/WC_TWOK_battle_pack;108331
I've already built one, but it wouldn't hurt to make a better one. :) I would say the tricky bits for the Miranda class is the engineering hull being flush with the saucer rim and making the upper torpedo bay rollbar.
Are you going to do a TNG color scheme or have you thought about it yet?
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I want a TNG color scheme. However, I won't be doing the texturing, since I can't texture. I might need help with mapping the warp engines. The rest of the ship I'm fairly certain I can map myself more or less.
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Oh, and what you said about getting the saucer and engineering hull flush, yeah, that is a pain. Mine isn't completely flush, but it's close enough so where I can get away with it. I'm gonna keep the saucer and aft hull separate objects. Originally I was gonna weld them together, but something told me that would make things more complicated when it came time for mapping.
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Thanks to MeteoraFallen again, I've got impulse engines. While I would have loved to make the impulse engines exactly as he had designed them, I couldn't. I'm not quite good enough. However, I do like what I did come up with, and since the design I went with is very much based on his rough concept sketches, credit goes to him for helping design them.
Here are some renders of the impulse engines. I added that impulse dome that's traditional of ships this old.
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sweet design deffinately. And it seems someone has been feeding u alot of cookies as of late see how u are loved around here :evil:
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I love it! I've always liked the Miranda class and it's variants; is this going to be simply another Miranda variant, or a refit, with it's own variants? (I.e. without rollbar, auxilliary impulse in place of aft torpedo tubes etc.)
Anyway I love this refit, as well as some of the older details showing through from the old ship; a very clear evolution over the ships used for near-on 100 years; which, in my opinion desperately needs a refit!
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I intend on just making the Miranda refit. However, since I started out as a kitbasher myself, if this ship is released, and by if I mean should I get the help needed to finish her off once I've finished the mesh, then anyone who wants to use this ship as a basis for variants and kitbashes, can do so, after seeking permissions from me of course.
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Dude I think this looks better than my design, It even looks like you could fit an extra vent on top. Great work !
P.S. Cookie for you.
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What's the poly count at?
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I haven't checked yet, but I think roughly around 10k right now, but again, I haven't checked yet.
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Just a slight update.
I've made the tractor beams that are located on either side of each shuttlebay, and I've redone the ventral saucer phasers to account for line of sight due to the warp engines.
I'm currently trying to think of a design for that part of the ship that runs from the bridge to the impulse engines, although, to be honest, I'm not sure if I should even include that on this model.
Sorry, no renders right now, my mom's on the main computer, and that's where I have all my model files. If I had a place to work with my laptop, I'd be working on the ship right now.
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Ok, new renders available. I've built the bridge, and in the renders you can see the tractor beams on either side of each shuttlebay, as well as the redesigned ventral saucer phasers.
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I'm liking the way this thing is shaping out! :D
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I'm liking the way this thing is shaping out! :D
:yeahthat: :D
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TOO MUCH WIN, IM GONNA EXPLODE!!! XD :dance
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I like the bridge design looks like she has some armor around that area will u be modeling in a main tractor beam emitter?
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Good stuff. :]
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This is looking great! Can't wait to see it in action!
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Sorry there hasn't been any updates concerning this ship. I've been dealing with a few personal issues lately, and also this is the first week of the fall semester, and I think I'm gonna sign up for 2 additional classes, so I don't know how much time I'm gonna have. I'll see what I can do.
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no need to say you're sorry around here cent. All of us know RL comes first in fact Baz is trying to finish up a few ships before he becomes a proud father the ultimate RL. But dont overdo it on taking so many classes otherwise u burn yourself out
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Yeah man, look after yourself, I'll cya on msn every now and then!
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Me again. Got into the mood, and did some more work on the ship over the last couple of days or so. Before you guys get your hopes up, I haven't done that much.
Anyway, in the images below, you can see that I've gotten around to making the main deflector pod. I know it's plain looking, but I kinda like it, and to a degree, it's keeping in line with how I made the mini deflectors. The aft I couldn't think much to do with, so I gave it some segments and tapered it down. Maybe when and IF textures are done for this ship, maybe the ship's name and registry or maybe just the registry, or maybe the Starfleet Insignia can go there. Don't know.
Also, as you can see, I made that ventral dome/hatch, whatever it is. The ship felt naked without it.
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I quite like the pod! Although I see the direction it is going (nacelle parts connecting over with pylons), and I would suggest a newer approach. Perhaps a pylon coming up from the center of the ship . . .
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Na. I'm gonna stick with the traditional rollbar. However, I still need to figure out how to make the weapons pods the way I want them. It's gonna be tricky.
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question is HOW do u want them, have any design ideas?
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I like the bridge design looks like she has some armor around that area will u be modeling in a main tractor beam emitter?
With everything else he's sticking on that thing I wouldn't be surprised if I'll be able to count the hull bolts and the rubber chickens in it's Captians quarters :dance Good work dude! You've defenetly improved on modeling since I last saw a wip of yours last spring, I think it's safe to say you don't suck any more :angel :hide
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I wonder if I should report that last post or not....honestly, thinking about it.
Anyway, I've been meaning to do some work on this ship for a while, but I haven't really had much of a chance. I'm still stuck on the weapons pods. I can't think of anything that I really like, and because of that, I might just go ahead and make New Orleans type weapons pods. Honestly, haven't decided.
Once the weapons pods are done, the rest is minor stuff that I can knock out in a couple hours, and then she'll be finished, modelwise anyway.
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Are you thinking of only a deflector? Or weapons in the pod too?
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The old mega phasers are going to be replaced with twin weapons pods, housing micro torpedo launchers and pulse phasers.
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So I assume the current "deflector pod" in your wip is out?
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I think Cent means that the center pod, which was the torpedo pod in the Reliant, will house a deflector, and the side pods, which were phaser emitters in the Reliant, will be torpedo/pulse phaser pods.
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I think Cent means that the center pod, which was the torpedo pod in the Reliant, will house a deflector, and the side pods, which were phaser emitters in the Reliant, will be torpedo/pulse phaser pods.
What he said.
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ahh I got ya now. And for some reason I was getting a mental image of the wrong pod (thinking springfield instead). Honestly I don't know how well those would look, however, if you stacked them, one over the bar, one directly under, that might look rather good. It wont be pretty, but we've seen not so pretty things added to reliant shaped vessels before, such as the Soyuz-class and countless non-canon bashes so it atleast wont be "radical'
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3 words:
Me likey.......cookie. :yay: :yay: :yay:
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You should see my refitted Connie.
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,7522.60.html
One good cookie deserves another.
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hey Cent long time no see BTW u get my PM? Dawg cookie away :evil: And u think u may be able to get one or both of these beauties on the xmas release?
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No chance of a release anytime soon unfortunately.
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Both the Resurrection and the Enforcer need mapping and texturing as of current. The Enforcer's model is still not complete, SOMEONE hasn't decided on a weapons module design yet XD
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Sue me!! I'm a perfectionist!! :D Well, not really, but I want it to look good. And yes, the Resurrection still has no mapping.
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Do u have any finished textures for her yet so i can get a sense of what she's going to look like???
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I don't do textures. Besides, the ship isn't mapped, so making textures at this stage wouldn't help.
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Ok, I think I've gotten the weapons pod design finally licked. You guys tell me what you think.
NOTE:
Special thanks goes to WickedZombie, cause some years ago he sent me some concept renders for the twin weapons pods, and I think his design was really the only one viable for this refit.
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Yeahh... that looks the part! :yay:
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Oh that looks cool I like it!
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you should take a look at bcfiles chimera 1.0 http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Chimera;15997. I realise thats a torpedo pod but your deflector pod could use some more..I dunno..sleekness? It just doesn't seem to fit the rest of it. I like how you've done the weapons pods though, defenetly different. Saw the refit connie too, also looks nice.
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The pod on the Chimera is worse than the main deflector on the Enforcer. Why would you want me to see that?
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I wouldn't really call that a "deflector" It looks just like an ordinary weapons pod, but fatter.
Great job on the pods buddy, they look outstanding. Now I can finally make an MSD for it MUAHAHAH!!!!
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alot better than what i came up with. much sleeker as well
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alot better than what i came up with. much sleeker as well
I may use what you made for an Akula refit, should I go about making one. :-D
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appreciate it centurus. Will u be modeling in the torp tubes and phaser cannon or just texture it?
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They'll be modeled in. :-D
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The pod on the Chimera is worse than the main deflector on the Enforcer. Why would you want me to see that?
Ok, well I thought that particular pod, with it's curved nature, looked pretty cool. But I guess that's just my opinion lol.
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Sorry to say, it looks less "sleek" than what I built, mainly because it's more bulky, and I think is just a Miranda torpedo pod pushed in from the sides, making it bulky.
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When ya going to start the skinning?
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Still gotta do a few more things with the mesh. She's not complete yet. As for the mapping, not sure.
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Rollbar looks good :thumbsup:
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It has begun..... :D
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HE HAS RETURNED!!!! :dance :yay: :evil:
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Returned?? I never left? LOL
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She's nearing completion. I've gone over every area of the model, thinking over what else needs to be made that can't be done by textures. To the best of my ability, the only thing left are the launchers and pulse phaser emitters themselves that go in the twin weapons pods, and maybe a hatch or two on the rim of the saucer for docking purposes. If anyone can think of anything that I've missed, let me know and I'll review it.
In this update, I've finished the phaser array coverage on the ship. There are now phasers on the top rollbar to provide dorsal aft coverage, and phasers on the pylons for when an enemy sucker punches the ship from the side. Also, I've made a sensor dome.
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shes a beauty alright.
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Agreed.
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I thought I would give everyone an update on the Enforcer's MSD, hope you like it :)
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nice very nice
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I do make em purdy don't I.