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		BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: DJ Curtis on August 26, 2011, 09:27:00 AM
		
			
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				I'm in the mood to create and I'm issuing myself a personal challenge:
 
 Provided nothing comes up and I don't have any unexpected dinner invitations, etc., I'm going to model, texture, script and release a brand new ship from scratch all in one day just to see if I can do it!  Should be updates throughout the day.
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				Will this be in a 24-hour timeframe? Good luck.
			
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				Shooting for under 12 hours.
			
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				should be intresting.
 
 Are you making it up on the fly or shooting for something canon?
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				On the fly, man!  I think canon would probably be impossible.
			
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				As the wise words of a commadore once said, ''This should be interesting''
 
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				Like someone pointing a weapon to your head "Finish the ship or I'll finish you - you got 12 hours."?
			
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				Something like that.  lol
			
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				Well at least you can get it finished and released before the nitpickers start to add their 10 cents of advise.
 
 "IMO you should have used JT3245-B14 nacelles not the JT3245-B12 ones" :help:
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 "Why not make the saucer a cude instead similar to the boris class" :hithead:
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				Haha.  True enough.
 
 Total time so far is roughly 1.5 hrs.
 
 Here are the first renders:
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				interesting design looks like an offshoot of your eximus re-design
			
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				It will be more conventional that the Eximius.
			
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				Well at least you can get it finished and released before the nitpickers start to add their 10 cents of advise.
 
 "IMO you should have used JT3245-B14 nacelles not the JT3245-B12 ones" :help:
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 "Why not make the saucer a cude instead similar to the boris class" :hithead:
 
 
 These nitpickers just want to help sometimes. better correct it while you still can instead when its finished and everyone is saying that it sucks ;)
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				Thoughts, comments and criticism are always welcome.
			
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				Indeed they always are I was joking :angel
			
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				Too slow!! hurry up lol. jk good luck man
			
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				Lol, good luck DJ, looking forward to seeing the final product!
			
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				Not progressing as fast as I'd like, blasted children!
 
 Here's where I'm at:
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				It looks like a MK2 Intrepid.
			
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				It looks like a MK2 Intrepid.
 
 
 was thinking the same thing :P that would be interesting he did the next enterprise - now the next voyager lol
 
 dumb git thats what the vivachi was :( still interesting design though :D - wat u think the size of her will be?
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				You got this, I believe in you!  (Takes me a whole year to make one ship.)
			
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				Looks good so far DJ. Good luck!
 
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				Binding and gagging kids works wonders if you want to get work done.
 
 Interesting design so far. I look forward to it and seeing if you can complete your challenge.
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				This looks like a nice ship, MAYBE you should start taking challenges from people, or asking for designs to work on that are interesting?
			
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				Certainly not moving as fast as I would like.   :hithead:
 
 Here's what I've got so far.  It is a bit Intrepidish, so I put the nacelles below the belt line.  The nacelles are a bit of a cheat, as they are partially derived from some mesh I built for that ship with the interior.  Heavily modified and added on, though.
 
 I also rebuilt the saucer section, pushed back the deflector area, and shortened the ship's length overall, especially in the front half.
 
 Right now the change I'm considering most is whether to go with a more traditional style of impulse engines.  Thoughts?
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				Nah I really like these...me likey the Eximius tho :D
			
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				thats nice looking tho. 
 
 ;)
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				Looking awesome! I love the underside-nacelle config.
			
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				This is probably now my favourite of your recent work, DJ, my only suggestion might be to trim the nacelle pylons in so the nacelles lie closer to the hull, inside the wake of the Saucer. It may lead to Bussard collector line-of-sight clearance issues, I'm not sure, but it'd make the design flow just a little better, imo. Superb work as always.
			
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				Never been a fan of Intrepidish ships but this one has real potential.  Hope you can pull this off DJ!
			
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				Looks good.  Now get on to texturing so you make your deadline. :P
			
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				Time-wise, this is not looking good.   :facepalm:
 
 However, mesh-wise, I think it's looking not half-bad.  I'm going to add a few more things and call the mesh finished, so if you guys have any additional suggestions, get them in fast.
 
 Bren, as per your suggestion I brought the nacelles in tighter to the hull.  I also decreased the amount of forward sweep the pylons had going on.
 
 Other major changes include:
 
 -gave the ship more conventional impulse engines
 -added phasers and torp launchers
 -added bridge
 -detailed undercut
 -moved the deflector back even further
 
 Should have some textures on it in the next update.  Funny thing is, when I started this ship, I really didn't intend for it to look Intrepidish at all.  I guess thinking outside the box is not my specialty.
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				Is it just me or could she do with some Venture type phasers on her nacelles as well.
			
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				While not a bad idea, I think I'll hold that for a possible refit.  I don't want the ship to appear over-armed.
			
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				 :evil: There's no such thing as being overarmed lol
 
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				If she's a science, research, or pure exploration vessel, then yeah, there's such a thing as being overarmed.
			
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				Yeah, but if the Borg show up, her captain will be cursing Starfleet for not slapping them on. :P
			
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				Looking real nice DJ.
 
 I have 2 suggestions:
 
 -  I think the aft part of the saucer sections' outer edges are a bit too sharp... maybe rounding them off might make it look more flowing.
 
 - I would go for a more Sovereign-like impulse engine design that's angled forward... obviously not exactly like the Sov. Maybe a hybrid of different styles.
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				It looks like a duck squating lol!!!  Perhaps call it the Malard class?  :D
 
 This is epic considering the time frame you took to build it.   :)
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				BTW, IMO, I think it so far looks like a combination of the Intrepid and Luna classes... with a bit of its own uniqueness mixed in. 
			
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				Nice ship.
			
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				Always blame it on the children :P Only if you applied this to Excalibur....
			
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				it's a cute little baby voyager! :funny
			
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				Just to keep you guys up to date, I've got most of the ship hacked up for mapping now.  Dinner break!
			
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				All major surfaces now mapped, you can see them in grey.  Whatever's yellow is unmapped, but most of it just needs a base color face map, which takes seconds.
			
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				GET IT DJ! :D
			
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				Cookie for you Mr. Curtis.
			
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				-taps watch-
 
 Dinner's over!  :dontcare:
 
 Lol I thought this would be impossible...
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				Meh, he's an hour behind me if I'm not mistaken...he may have conked out :P BUT...the day isn't over yet  :evil:
			
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				Three hours behind my  :D I'm EST what are you?
			
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				Then he's 3 hours behind me too :doh:
			
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				Sensor pod, perhaps? Luna MKII?
			
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				I have not conked out!  Though I could finish texturing by 7 am, which is 7.5 hours from now for me, I don't think I'm going to stay up all night working on this.  Dealing with my children tomorrow without sleep is a bad plan.  :D
 
 Probably more more update after this one before I hit the hay.
 
 So far on the textures I'm working on a simple first layer without much paneling detail, and no aztecing so far.  Just trying to get the lines laid out, more or less.
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				looks grat DJ. Have i read that right? you call it USS Swift? I think that wouldn't be a bad name at all.
			
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				It would make a good police cutter a derivative of the intrepid class. 
			
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				It looks like a MK2 Intrepid.
 
 
 Heh, the very first thought I had after seeing the first image: "Oooh look, an Intrepid variant/refit" :P
 
 EDIT: After reviewing all posted images thus far, my only suggestion (if not too difficult), would be to lengthen the nacelles somewhat (10-15%), backwards. Forward end of the nacelles should remain as is, but extend them closer to the back end of the shuttlebay area. I realize you have begun mapping/texturing the ship, so this might not be possible at this juncture.
 
 Still thou, I like what i'm seeing so far. Being that it's got some influence from Intrepid Class, and with the current nacelle configuration, a bit of Nebula class, I'd tend to see this as a late 24th, early 25th Century Intrepid/Nebula replacement.
 
 EDIT 2: Heh, for a "refit" of this ship, after my suggestion of a "Nebula replacement", you could possibly modify the hull spine section, to include a Nebula-type "module" area. A SWACS-configuration might look good on a design like this.
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				I can almost see this having some sort of sensor/weapons pod. And with a bit of nacelle extension like Darkthunder suggested, it could almost resemble the Luna class. :P
			
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				Lovely stuff DJ
			
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				*snorts* It seem's DJ's fountain of whimsical names never ends! :P
			
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				wow DJ - you never cease to amaze me!!  :)
 Dealing with my children tomorrow without sleep is a bad plan.  :D
 
 awww come on, here i thought you were hardcore and could hang lol  j/k :P
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				*snorts* It seem's DJ's fountain of whimsical names never ends! :P
 
 
 Sooooo...he's becoming the Dr. Soong of starship building? *ducks*
 
 Looks great DJ.
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				Haha.  Guess I need to rename the thread, eh?
 
 As for the name, it's just a modest proposal, but I thought it was good given the ship's construction time.  :)
 
 Also, I think a pod on top might not be a bad idea, I'll give it a try.
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				Here's an early look at the hull texture.
			
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				now this I could definetly see in trek episode.
 
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				now this I could definetly see in trek episode.
 
 
 
 Indeed!
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				I could even see this one in a new film, its that good!  :thumbsup:
			
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				still one or two days amazing work man.
			
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				Thanks guys.  I've been thinking about the pod, and I'm going to redo the area on the spine that has a triangular shape, it's in front of the spine phaser array.  It will be like a plug in spot where a pod support would drop on.
 
 Here's an update:
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				Still looking nice. The engineering hull scoop is smiling.  :D
			
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				Haha, I see that!  That's awful!
			
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				Haha, I see that!  That's awful! Now you will never think the same way about the ship again.  :funny
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				Seriously, that's brutal.
			
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				stop trying to mentally scar the man for life..I want more ships lol :D
			
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				Superb ship dude!
			
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				This is one awsome ship, but i cant help feeling the nacells should be longer... oh well, shes a keeper anyways, magnificent work DJ!  :yay:
			
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				this is neat. this is a REALLY neat ship DJ, nice Job. though you didn't get it in one day, who could do it in two days.7
 
 Cookied :)
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				Thanks CDR and 001.
 
 Flarespire, I'll see about the nacelles.  I might be able to give them a touch more length.
 
 Update.
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				I really like that deflector, real interesting.
			
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				I think a deflector can really make or break a ship's overall aesthetic.
			
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				Looks very good DJ.  Although those nacelles look too skinny and too long. *wink wink* :P
			
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				Cookie for you Farshot...was wondering when someone was going to say that.  Great work DJ and your deflectors are always pieces of art!
			
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				Let's call this insta-download for me :D I'm digging it...
			
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				now its a cousin of the achellis class lol sweet ship...... "Dr. Soong" rofl
			
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				Its a mash of some of the most beautiful ships available for BC its a fantastic creation.
			
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				Hey DJ if youake it four days we might get too restless :P lol
 
 Of course I'm just kidding...or am I??? :P
 
 In all seriousness this is turning out excellently :)
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				Looks great DJ.
 
 That deflector looks like a ram air scoop... nice!
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				dang federation bureaucratic schedual overruns :D
			
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				were at WAR dammit! i need more ships for the front!!!  :funny
			
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				Glad it has taken a little longer than expected, been gone for a few days. Always miss the good stuff.  :)
 
 I for one like the rout it has taken. I have always liked the Intrepid design, and though it is reminiscent of the design, it looks like a design that would have come along with the Intrepid at the same time period.
 
 The pod connector idea is great. I agree it would look very nice with pod attachments. Do something in line with how you did the Holland for example.
 
 The U.S.S. Swift looks awesome to me. Great work so far, and so fast. :thumbsup:
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				I love your deflector. You seem to be king of deflectors  :funny
			
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				Awesome work, and the quality your producing in the time scale is really excellent.  :thumbsup:
			
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				looks grat DJ. Have i read that right? you call it USS Swift? I think that wouldn't be a bad name at all.
 
 
 It's almost a good name.:P
 
 Seriously this is really impressive. Great design, mesh, and textures in a couple days. Awesome work.
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				DJ needs to make a variant with golden fibrous plating and two tails.  Should be called the USS FURSWIFT. :P
			
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				Another awesome ship by DJ that fits in with canon designs.
			
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				DJ needs to make a variant with golden fibrous plating and two tails.  Should be called the USS FURSWIFT. :P
 
 
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				Just catching up with this one... 
 
 One word:  Awesome!
 
 Definitely worthy of a series!
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				Four days DJ ... you're gettin' old :P 
 
 j/k  :funny
 
 Awesome ! gonna be my second fav from you ! cookied !
 
 
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				Great work DJ. Impressive development speed.
			
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				Actually Bones more like 5 days :P
 
 But yeah I agree Getting old there DJ :P LOL Poor you, kids having you tied down XD
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				Actually Bones more like 5 days :P
 
 But yeah I agree Getting old there DJ :P LOL Poor you, kids having you tied down XD
 
 Oh come on man, he's not that old ... is he ?!
 
 not that kids aren't nice to old men ... oh... right.... they are not ......... I'll remain silent :D
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				I actually think I'm older than he is...to be honest :S
 
 EDIT:  Nope he's got a year over me :D
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				I think a deflector can really make or break a ship's overall aesthetic.
 
 
 
 thats why I never like the Intrepid class from bottom or front view.
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				DJ, you are the man.  :thumbsup:
			
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				Okay, so I'll have to shoot for a week on this one.  Started work again on Monday, but the Labour Day long weekend is just around the corner.  I'll finish it up then.
			
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				Still a pretty quick turn-around DJ. :thumbsup:
			
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				is it done yet? :D
			
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				Man... has anyone noticed how long this is taking!  :D
			
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				Way tooo long... I'm dying to try it out, it looks awesome already :)
			
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				Are we there yet? xD
			
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				its such a cool ship, it makes me want to attempt one of my ships...but i cant even use 3dsmax in that aspect, i can only smooth models ive ripped from things or have been asked to smooth...
			
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				DJ Curtis,
 
 You didnt happen to obtain your inspiration from the original Voyager concept art, did you? there was one particular piece that looks nearly identical to your ship. I'm just curious. She's a cute little ship so far; very well built.DJ Curtis,
 
 You didnt happen to obtain your inspiration from the original Voyager concept art, did you? there was one particular piece that looks nearly identical to your ship. I'm just curious. She's a cute little ship so far; very well built.
 
 
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				DJ Curtis,
 
 You didnt happen to obtain your inspiration from the original Voyager concept art, did you? there was one particular piece that looks nearly identical to your ship. I'm just curious. She's a cute little ship so far; very well built.DJ Curtis,
 
 You didnt happen to obtain your inspiration from the original Voyager concept art, did you? there was one particular piece that looks nearly identical to your ship. I'm just curious. She's a cute little ship so far; very well built.
 
 
 
 
 I see a post within a post and think, Postception.
 
 Sorry. :P
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				Since he asked it twice I think DJ should answer it twice :P LOL
 
 I agree though there it does look like that concept :) Only thing is, that concept was supposed to push the engines out instead of them being static :D.
 
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				My bad; posting from my phone can be a pain in the rear.
 
 Are you sure the nacelles were supposed to push out? In the artwork I saw, the pylons looked static, like DJ's.
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				Yep positive!  Earlier concepts anyway...
			
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				My bad; posting from my phone can be a pain in the rear.
 
 Are you sure the nacelles were supposed to push out? In the artwork I saw, the pylons looked static, like DJ's.
 
 
 Try taking your phone out of your back pocket. :funny
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				Try taking your phone out of your back pocket. :funny
 
 
 NO!
 I keep it on vibrate...
 
 (okay, moving right along...)
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				NO!
 I keep it on vibrate...
 
 (okay, moving right along...)
 
 :rotflmfao:
 
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				whats up with this ship?
			
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				whats up with this ship?
 
 Of all the people throughout the known Galaxy who might have uttered those words I would have expected it to be a Noob :facepalm: DJ s last post was 9/5/11 and as he told me when I inquired about Raven and I quote: "As for Raven, he comes and goes.  He'll be back.  Count on it.  It's just a matter of when." I believe the same of DJ so until then....we wait.....
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				Wow! The ship really does look like something out of a trek movie..of the current federation timeline. Maybe starfleet was able to implament unexpected improvements for allot of her systems derived from researched technologies the u.s.s. voyager brought back from the delta quadrant :P just curious DJ have you decided on a class name for her yet? If not might I suggest the name genova class :D I don't know..when I look at this ship the name genova pops in my head  :idk: anyways remarkable job on her so far DJ(she looks very starfleet).   :thumbsup:
			
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				Ts'nt genova spelt with a J, so it reads as its spealt? i.e. Jenova (pardon the non intended reference but i am using a dictionary for this one)
			
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				Googling "Genova", I find the Italien city, which is also spelled as "Genua". Is that what you were referring to dEjavU ?
			
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				if your refering to the Italian city, it IS spelled with a G.
 
 that just makes me think one of the ships will be named USS Santa Maria and captianed by a descendant of Columbus :P
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				guys - DJ hasnt posted in this thread since September 1st...
 please let this thread be idle until he has a chance to post again...
 
 please no one post next except for DJ...
 
 thx :)
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				My apologies Jimmy for posting when said not to(I really don't mean to dis your authority..this won't happen again)just thought I'd let the guys know that the name isn't for any particular meaning or reference..it's just the way how it sounds incontingent with the way how the ship appears when I'm looking at it.   ;)
			
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				Hey guys, I'm back and working on the Swift.  I guess I'll have to try a ship in a day challenge some other time.  Maybe later we could organize a little competition among some of us for fun?
 
 Anyhow, I think way back someone suggested that the ship might look good with a pod, so that's what I've added in addition to doing some additions and changes to the textures.  I tried to give the pod an aesthetic cross between the Miranda and Nebula classes.  I'll probably still add some details.
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				Good to see you back DJ.
 
 Looks good. Curious: what are your intentions for the purpose/function of this pod?
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				The ship itself looks good and somehow sleek but the design of the pod ruins it.
 
 
 It looks like the voyager aeroshuttle on it... If you want a pod, try make one like the nebula triangle pod but way sharper and sleeker.
 
 Just an opinion ;)
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				there could be more than one pod. This could be the explorer version, and the sleeker nebula weapons pod mentioned above could be the military version. Either way, one of the voyager concepts had one of these dorsal mounted pods and looked fine. Though I would think you'd have saved a copy with no pod that could be released along with the pod version and make everyone happy lol. Pod or no pod I like the ship so I don't care  :funny
			
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				I agree with a triangle pod, it would be much more fitting. Still fantastic design cant wait to fly her.
			
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				The pod looks awesome, I bet this one could separate into a small Defiant-like ship to support mother ship with torpedo fire ;)
			
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				Awesome ship, mate! Makes my ships pointless :D I don't know if I ever reach your modeling skills. Have a cookie! :)
			
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				The pod looks awesome, I bet this one could separate into a small Defiant-like ship to support mother ship with torpedo fire ;)
 
 
 It does look like it should be a small ship on its own, doesn't it?
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				Looks absolutely wonderful, although the 'wings' on the pod don't seem to flow all that smoothly. It looks almost like it's streamlined to do good reversing. :P But it is really great. :)
			
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				IMO the pod ruins the design, but hey you may have other intentions on the pods use and positioning on the ship as of yet, how am i supposed to know that?
			
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				DJ.... I think the pod could work but I think having at least 2 points of contact would look better and would flow with the body design more... Other then that great work and have a cookie!
			
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				,,,,,,,,The pod connector idea is great. I agree it would look very nice with pod attachments. Do something in line with how you did the Holland for example. ,,,,,,
 
 
 
 To quote myself  :P, I still think that would be a good way to go with her.
 
 To me it looks great, though it does look like a small attack or support ship. It would look much more like a pod if you exchange the size ratio on both sections so the middle is smaller and the sides are bigger. Also maybe stretch the front of the side sections to connect at the tip of the pod center front section, if that makes any sense.
 
 Awesome work as always. :thumbsup:
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				Very nice reminds me of some of the early Intrepid concepts like these
			
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				Very nice reminds me of some of the early Intrepid concepts like these
 
 
 
 i want... to.. model the second one.... but has no damn time.... grrr...
 
 
 GLAD AS HELL to see you back in action DJ.
 
 however, i LIKE the pod idea... just not how its sitting... can you skew it aft and ventral some to sit closer to the body? MAYBE that would change the "feel" of it.
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				can you skew it aft and ventral some to sit closer to the body? MAYBE that would change the "feel" of it. 
 The pod does look nice, but I think I have to agree with this. :)
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				I do like the pod from certain angles but hate it in others. Looks like a mini starship in its own right.
 
 Also glad to see you back. How about sticking a pod on your TNG Frigate too  :)
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				Regarding the pod:
 
 Based on how it currently looks, have you given a thought to making a "pod-like" vessel that can detach itself from the main ship?
 
 I'm thinking instead of the customary "secondary deflector" on the saucer, make the second deflector a part of the "pod". Equip the pod with impulse engines (which it looks like it has already), a couple of phaser arrays and 2-3 torpedo tubes. While attached, it functions as an augmentation to the weapons array and speed/maneuverability of the mother-ship. When detached, the "pod" would not have warp capability, but be a real threat to larger ships (sort of like a large combat-oriented shuttle/runabou).
 
 EDIT: Additionally, i'm with Starforce on this one. Would be nice seeing a couple of different "pods" for specific purposes. The idea of an assault vessel "pod", would certainly be useful in hostile situations.
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				Welcome back DJ!
 
 Hummm... Looks like the pod can flight for itself, like an attached Defiant. Will it be possible? :)
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				Welcome Back! You were truly missed as you can no doubt tell!  I see you've done some modifications to the Swift. Since I've just seen it I'll need time to adjust since I was keen on the original WIP, which I have stared at over and over during your absence. LOL! The pod actually resembles more of a ship/shuttle from my point of view. I like the concept and if it is along the Miranda/Nebula style does that indicate there are to be multiple versions with  different pods such as Weapons / Long Range Sensors / Science and any other pod you can think of ?