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Title: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: 086gf on July 18, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
Its just days away whos pumped?!

Meanwhile enjoy the tunes that you'll be hearing throughout the movie.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34498
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on July 18, 2012, 04:04:44 PM
I can't wait, but I should...I didn't wait to see The Avengers and ended up getting a really crappy seat on the front row.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CyAn1d3 on July 19, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
heh heh... my shop WAS contracted by AMC theatres to do a few 20 ft banners for the midnight showing.... needless to say WB said NO because of "copyright infringement" and got cancelled... on the flipside i got to take one of the test prints home :D

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z285/Cyanide1700/676A0645.jpg)

now i have Anne Hathaway over my bed every night  :evil:

as for the movie... i WANNA frickin see it!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: moed on July 19, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Can't wait... but I will wait a bit. Avoid some crowds.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mckinneyc on July 19, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Can't wait... but I will wait a bit. Avoid some crowds.

Same here unless my best friend insists
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 086gf on July 20, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
Holy @#$% there were a dozen people killed and 59 more injured at Aurora, Co midnight showing! The guy popped up out of nowhere(some say already in the theater; others through the emergency exit) in the theater dressed in actual full on SWAT gear, gas mask and a trenchcoat to hide what he had. First he set off a gas bomb then started unloading on all of the movie-goers while they were still in their seats with an AR15, a shotgun, two 40 cal pistols and a knife. Oh my God the apparent first victum was a baby at point blank! Cops were already there doing crowd control outside but ofcourse they had to get through everyone trying to get out. They said he had his hair died red and was calling himself The Joker. The caught up to him at a car behind the theater then arrested him. Told the cops that he had a bomb in his car but actually didn't and that his appartment was bobby-trapped(very complex) which it was. He had just gotten his Bach. degree in neuroscience(could very much be relevent, you know an experiment since your mind does go crazy in this kind of situation and he wanted to know how it truely felt...very possible) then suddenly dropped out a month ago. Thing is how did he know which screen the movie was going to be shown at if he did come from the emergency exit? And where did he get the money to buy everything? Especially all the SWAT/riot gear since you can't just buy that stuff at any gun/surplus store. This is just crazy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mckinneyc on July 20, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
I know, what on Earth!

In terms of the film, I loved every minute and I am not really into super heros
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: moed on July 20, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
Holy @#$% there were a dozen people killed and 59 more injured at Aurora, Co midnight showing! The guy popped up out of nowhere(some say already in the theater; others through the emergency exit) in the theater dressed in actual full on SWAT gear, gas mask and a trenchcoat to hide what he had. First he set off a gas bomb then started unloading on all of the movie-goers while they were still in their seats with an AR15, a shotgun, two 40 cal pistols and a knife. Oh my God the apparent first victum was a baby at point blank! Cops were already there doing crowd control outside but ofcourse they had to get through everyone trying to get out. They said he had his hair died red and was calling himself The Joker. The caught up to him at a car behind the theater then arrested him. Told the cops that he had a bomb in his car but actually didn't and that his appartment was bobby-trapped(very complex) which it was. He had just gotten his Bach. degree in neuroscience(could very much be relevent, you know an experiment since your mind does go crazy in this kind of situation and he wanted to know how it truely felt...very possible) then suddenly dropped out a month ago. Thing is how did he know which screen the movie was going to be shown at if he did come from the emergency exit? And where did he get the money to buy everything? Especially all the SWAT/riot gear since you can't just buy that stuff at any gun/surplus store. This is just crazy.

There are no words to describe how disgusting this bastard is. I can't and never want to imagine anything like that. May the families of the victims find comfort in some way.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: FarShot on July 20, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Heard it here at camp.  Sad indeed.  I know we don't go into much religious discussion here, but I know I'm praying for the families. :(
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on July 21, 2012, 01:28:19 AM
Heard it here at camp.  Sad indeed.  I know we don't go into much religious discussion here, but I know I'm praying for the families. :(

Indeed.  What's annoying about this though is one NBC newscaster decided to drag Trekkies into this mess by calling this guy a "Dark Trekkie".  Thanks alot NBC, way to be insensitive to both the victims and people that had nothing to do with this psycho.  At least Warner Bros. and Nolan are showing some class, and I agree with Nolan's sentiments.  It's horrifying to think that all these people wanted to do was sit down and be entertained for a couple of hours, and this prick decides to come in and go on a rampage.  My thoughts go out to the families involved and I hope that this guy gets put either behind bars or in a padded cell.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darkthunder on July 21, 2012, 03:15:25 AM
I think this quote is somewhat appropriate for the situation:

"Words alone cannot convey the suffering. Words alone can not prevent what happened here from happening again. Beyond words lies experience; beyond experience lies truth. Make this truth your own."

The United States is probably the country with the most gun-related crimes in the world. Perhaps it's time to rethink your "Right to bare arms" from the 2nd Amendment? Obviously, if someone wants to kill another person with a weapon (any weapon), that person would find a way. But I'd like to think, that possibility would be severely decreased, if guns weren't so readily accessable.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on July 21, 2012, 04:09:52 AM
Thing is, not having that wouldn't prevent it.  If someone was truly determined, they'd find a way, and by all accounts, this guy was more than determined.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: eclipse74569 on July 21, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
Ok folks, while I am in shock as well as to what happened, can we please get back on the topic of the movie????
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Cube on July 21, 2012, 07:58:51 PM
The film was amazing.

It's a great trilogy. They all have their own plots, and each has a very different feel to it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on July 21, 2012, 09:23:49 PM
The film was amazing.

It's a great trilogy. They all have their own plots, and each has a very different feel to it.

Agreed, but I do have a few complaints towards the entire trilogy.  They're far too dark.  Yes, Batman IS a dark story, but there has to be some levity, some joy.  Also, they don't show Batman as he's supposed to be.  Batman is a detective first, punch-happy thug second.  And the plot twists can be seen a mile away.  Don't get me wrong, they're still good movies.  I just feel that they could be better.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Joshmaul on July 21, 2012, 11:36:11 PM
The thing Nolan's movies suffer from - though they have an interesting story, and capture the dark essence - is that they're too "actiony", leaving out a good chunk of what makes Batman...well, Batman. It was partly why I (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) enjoyed the animated series from back in the 90s. Yeah, it was technically a "kids show", but it - in my opinion - was less of the punch-happy thug (as Shadowknight puts it) and more detective work.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on July 21, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Kids show it may be marketed as, but the animated series was excellent.  It was the best representation of Batman and everyone involved.

Again, nothing against the Nolan films.  I love all three of them.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Trim on July 22, 2012, 07:54:38 PM
Personally I'm extremely over all the Batman related movies, Hollywood needs to come up with new ideas instead of all the damn remakes, etc. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: FarShot on July 22, 2012, 07:57:22 PM
So you never want to see another Batman movie is what you're saying?

There's a big difference between remakes and different interpretations.  "Clash of the Titans" is a remake, needlessly trying to supplant a classic.  "Batman Begins" is not a remake.  It takes Batman down a road never traveled before.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Trim on July 22, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
No I've seen them all with the exception of the last one, I'm just tired of seeing movies about Batman. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Mark on July 25, 2012, 05:15:30 AM
If you want to see it and you have the option, definitely see it at IMAX! Such an awesome experience.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Cube on July 25, 2012, 02:46:28 PM
No I've seen them all with the exception of the last one, I'm just tired of seeing movies about Batman. 

Don't start watching James Bond.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 007bashir on July 25, 2012, 02:54:37 PM
 :D nope, not from that standpoint.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 1DeadlySAMURAI on July 26, 2012, 07:11:12 AM
I saw this movie last nigh. I liked it. It was better then expected.
Hathaway was hot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: King Class Scout on July 26, 2012, 07:59:14 AM
mate and I watched it yesterday (holy crap, first movie I've seen in the theaters for a while).  neat little restaurant/theater down here.  he wanted to catch it before it got yanked off the shelves, so to speak (apparently, another nut misinterpreted it and started shooting, again)

nothing unusual here, other than the distinct nod to Occupy Wallstreet.  Bane's plot, however gives vibes of old fashioned communisim :P
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: baz1701 on July 26, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
Good movie, wife was in tears for the last 10 minutes.

Was not sure about the casting of Hathaway for catwoman, but like Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight I stand corrected.

Just goes to show you, take a good old American hero fill the cast with top British Actors and you've a hit. Makes a change from us being cast as the villian all the time, though Bane was played by a brit as well :dance. And this has started a trend with the other superheros too with Superman hailing from the British Isles and Spiderman growing up here.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 086gf on July 26, 2012, 01:57:40 PM
Forgot to mention before but the really wierd thing is that one of the previews shown(now removed) with DKR is American Gansters(1920's movie) and one of the scenes is of a shootout in a crowded theater so they will now be removing that scene from the movie itself.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 007bashir on July 26, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Just saw it today. What a great piece of Art. Gives you really something ro think at after you leave the cinema. Dont when i saw another film that was so dark. It was even darker than the previous movie "The Dark Knight".
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: eclipse74569 on July 26, 2012, 07:02:02 PM
HiveshipCommander, while I agree with you, I asked specifically that this subject be dropped.  This isn't the thread to discuss it, despite the fact that this movie was showing when this tragedy happened.  I will ask again please don't bring it up again, at least not in this thread!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on July 26, 2012, 09:36:26 PM
I'd love to talk more about the movie, but I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't been able to see it yet.

All I can really say is that after seeing it once, I'm not quite sure of where I'd place it in the Nolan trilogy.  While it is, in my opinion, the more lighthearted of the three, it's still dark, dark, dark.  And as much as that's fitting for the character, I think it's time to give him a little more lighthearted tone.  Heck, I think it's time to ditch the black batsuit.  Arkham Asylum and Arkham City have the best batsuit ever shown, in my opinion.

And yes, that batsuit can be done in real life:
(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l493/batpirisss/AA_ACWhite.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: moed on July 27, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
I'd love to talk more about the movie, but I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't been able to see it yet.

All I can really say is that after seeing it once, I'm not quite sure of where I'd place it in the Nolan trilogy.  While it is, in my opinion, the more lighthearted of the three, it's still dark, dark, dark.  And as much as that's fitting for the character, I think it's time to give him a little more lighthearted tone.  Heck, I think it's time to ditch the black batsuit.  Arkham Asylum and Arkham City have the best batsuit ever shown, in my opinion.

And yes, that batsuit can be done in real life:
(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l493/batpirisss/AA_ACWhite.jpg)

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Cube on July 28, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
I can see a suit like that getting used in the Justice League film.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 086gf on July 30, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Finally saw it yesterday and I think its the best of the three. I had a feeling that we would get a ***** for this Batman series and I had a feeling that it was Blake the whole time. You just knew that there was going to be more to him than just being a cop.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: FarShot on July 30, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Spoiler alert that stuff better.  Now I know that Levitt's not a cop entirely. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CyAn1d3 on July 30, 2012, 08:34:27 PM
Finally saw it yesterday and I think its the best of the three. I had a feeling that we would get a ***** for this Batman series and I had a feeling that it was Blake the whole time. You just knew that there was going to be more to him than just being a cop.
Spoiler alert that stuff better.  Now I know that Levitt's not a cop entirely. :facepalm:

YEA DAMMIT  :smack: :argh:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: eclipse74569 on July 30, 2012, 08:46:46 PM
Eh, changed the name of the thread to include a warning for Spoiler alerts :P
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shadowknight1 on August 18, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
Finally saw it yesterday and I think its the best of the three. I had a feeling that we would get a ***** for this Batman series and I had a feeling that it was Blake the whole time. You just knew that there was going to be more to him than just being a cop.

I can't agree with you at all.  I have a hard time putting ANY of the Dark Knight trilogy above the others, but if I had to pick just one, it would likely be Batman Begins.  As much as I love The Dark Knight, it does have some reliance on the viewer having seen Batman Begins.  The Dark Knight Rises is even worse, there are so many story threads that are tied back to Batman Begins that if you just go into Rises without seeing either of the first two you will be completely and totally lost.

And no, Blake is not that.  At all.  Ever.  All that was was a pointless and idiotic name drop.

And I'll say this, I want the Batman series to be rebooted after this, but much later.  I think it's time to drop the always dark, gritty stuff.  You can have a dark movie without it being based entirely in realism and depression.  Look at the Keaton film.

And that's not to say that the Nolan-verse shouldn't continue, but I think it should be left to another medium at this point since...certain things happen in the movie.  It can continue in comics or an animated/cgi series, but I don't think it should continue on in film.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: 1DeadlySAMURAI on August 18, 2012, 01:47:01 PM
there are so many story threads that are tied back to Batman Begins that if you just go into Rises without seeing either of the first two you will be completely and totally lost.
That's why it's called a trilogy. The movies are supposed to be connected and not stand on their own.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: FarShot on August 18, 2012, 05:28:26 PM
Same thing with Star Wars.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: Shadowknight1 on August 20, 2012, 03:47:57 AM
That's why it's called a trilogy. The movies are supposed to be connected and not stand on their own.

Not every trilogy is that way.  Most, yes, but there is one famous trilogy where every movie stands on its own.  Indiana Jones.

And my problem with Rises isn't so much that it ties in to the previous ones, it's that it ties a large amount back into the first movie.  If you haven't seen the first one, you'll be confused when R'as al Ghul's name comes up.  And yes, I realize this is nitpicking.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: 1DeadlySAMURAI on August 20, 2012, 07:10:22 AM
Not every trilogy is that way.  Most, yes, but there is one famous trilogy where every movie stands on its own.  Indiana Jones.

And my problem with Rises isn't so much that it ties in to the previous ones, it's that it ties a large amount back into the first movie.  If you haven't seen the first one, you'll be confused when R'as al Ghul's name comes up.  And yes, I realize this is nitpicking.
So it's an exception that proves the rule. Still, trilogy's SHOULD tie in to each other IMO.
Anyone would get confused watching only the last installment of any trilogy.

Well, you can nitpick if you want. I just disagree with you. :P
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS!!!
Post by: Shadowknight1 on August 20, 2012, 12:01:30 PM
*shrugs* I will nitpick it and the rest of the trilogy because I think that they don't quite capture the character of the Batman.  Plus I hate the cowl in both movies and the bat-suit overall in The Dark Knight/Rises.

That being said, they are still very good movies, and unlike most trilogies, don't really have a weak film that I'd skip if I felt like it, ie. Temple of Doom, Jurassic Park 3, Spider-Man 3.  Plus, it sure beats Batman & Robin.