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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #520 on: November 13, 2020, 12:00:32 PM »
This episode (Episode 5) had some interesting ship stuff

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So we got a USS Nog (NCC-325070), according to CBS the class name is Eisenberg, which is a nice tribute to Aaron and his character.


There's a USS Voyager (NCC-74656-J), CBS has said this is an Intrepid Class, clearly not a 24th century one, some 31st century inspired by design.

I think these are more views of it here



One of the Discovery bridge crew calls this a 'New Constitution' the saucer isn't legible in the actual episode.


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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #522 on: January 05, 2021, 03:55:06 PM »
Hi everyone, Im really enjoying Discovery, however I was just reading the TNG Technical manual and it says that starfleet were able to create synthetic Dilithium for use in starships...
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so how come in the 31st centry they can't?
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #523 on: January 05, 2021, 09:31:12 PM »
Synthetic dilithium isn't mentioned or seen in any movie or episode so it isn't canon, and the tech manuals aren't canon.

So they're not breaking any continuity there.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #524 on: January 09, 2021, 07:08:30 AM »
Synthetic dilithium isn't mentioned or seen in any movie or episode so it isn't canon, and the tech manuals aren't canon.

So they're not breaking any continuity there.

The same tech manuals suggest the Enterprise-D has a massive empty void inside the ship, and the crew quarters and other spaces are merely "suspended" inside that void. I've seen people defending the atrocious massive "turboshaft" scene in the DSC season 3 finale, using that very tech manual reference.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #525 on: January 10, 2021, 03:27:00 PM »
Huh, I don't remember that part of the Tech Manual, but it has been a while since I read it.

Also bigger on the inside tech should exist in the 32nd century, Enterprise showed us that it existed in the 31st.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #526 on: January 10, 2021, 03:34:42 PM »
Huh, I don't remember that part of the Tech Manual, but it has been a while since I read it.

Also bigger on the inside tech should exist in the 32nd century, Enterprise showed us that it existed in the 31st.

And there it is... "It's the 32nd century, so let's allow the cavernous interior"

Except: The cavernous "turboshaft" was shown in Season 2 of Discovery as well, while the ship was still in the 23rd Century. Only difference, is that turbolifts were guided on rollercoaster-rails in Season 2.

The "TARDIS tech" shown in 1 episode of Enterprise, was aboard a Shuttlecraft of UNKNOWN origin. There is no indication that it's obviously a Federation craft, other than the pilot being Human. Not all Humans are from Federation worlds, even in the 23rd/24th Century.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #527 on: January 10, 2021, 03:53:22 PM »
The one in Season 2 was a lot smaller than the one we saw in Season 3.

It was called a systems hub on an art diagram, it wasn't a turbshaft, the turbolifts were just travelling through it to get somewhere else.

https://i.imgur.com/9zBZeec.png

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #528 on: January 10, 2021, 04:11:49 PM »
The one in Season 2 was a lot smaller than the one we saw in Season 3.

It was called a systems hub on an art diagram, it wasn't a turbshaft, the turbolifts were just travelling through it to get somewhere else.

https://i.imgur.com/9zBZeec.png

And...? Such a large cavernous area has no business being there on a starship, where space is at a premium. The one in Season 3 season finale, just made the situation far worse. "TARDIS" tech might be a solution, but it's still dumber than dogshit in Star Trek. It also looked crap, and made very little sense when the battle between Book and Zareh could've just as easily taken place in a corridor. Also, didn't Osyraa just vent most of the atmosphere in the ship (which would include the cavernous area) ? Seems to me might be difficult to breath with lack of oxygen, and would take a very long time to depressurize and repressurize.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #529 on: January 10, 2021, 04:20:49 PM »
And it looks cool. That's it. I don't see the issue.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #530 on: January 10, 2021, 05:46:22 PM »
And it looks cool. That's it. I don't see the issue.

It looks cool... to you!

I thought it looked ridiculous, and non-sensical.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #531 on: January 10, 2021, 06:30:52 PM »
A lot of things in Trek are non-sensical, that just comes with the territory.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #532 on: January 11, 2021, 10:27:34 AM »
A lot of things in Trek are non-sensical, that just comes with the territory.

Fair point. So i'll just chalk this "cavernous turboshaft bullshit crap" in Discovery up there with the likes of 100 ft Spock (TAS), the super-long turboshaft with increasing deck numbers (ST5), TARDIS Trek (ENT) and the ever-expanding Enterprise-E (First Contact -> Nemesis).

In other words, things that are best ignored and discarded as non-canon.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #533 on: January 11, 2021, 12:56:02 PM »
Threshold....

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #534 on: January 14, 2021, 06:18:32 PM »
The Science Behind Discovery's Burn with Star Trek's Science Consultants.
https://ca.startrek.com/news/the-science-behind-discoverys-burn

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #536 on: September 09, 2021, 01:25:22 PM »
Season 4 airs November 18th

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #537 on: March 10, 2022, 10:42:34 PM »
Today’s discovery episode (4x12) felt very Trek

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A species with a language unlike anything the federation has encountered before. And they discuss it, theorize it, bring in non-linguistic experts to give a different point of view. No using weapons to solve a problem. It felt very TNG.

This language doesn't even use words. it's pheromones and lights. but they found a way to bridge the two types of language by using a common element of all species, math equations


The entire season really felt like a giant TNG episode. Which is both praise and a complaint.

The season's plot feels like a problem the Enterprise/Voyager/DS9 crew would figure out in a single episode or a two parter. And it really dragged on in the last couple episodes

I think the last 2 episodes could have been combined into one.

Next season is only going to be 10 episodes instead of 13, so I hope that will help them reel in their stories.