Andy Probert's concept Ambassador Class design vs Canon Ambassador Class design

[Locke]

I really like this design!  Personally, I think they should've gone with this version instead of the one that is considered to be the official Ambassador class.  Perhaps this could be considered as a MK-III upgrade that would have been used to replace the lost NCC-1701 C before the design of the Galaxy class came into being; or was a competition to the Galaxy class as a new era of flag ships during that time in the mid 24th century?

From what I read over at Sci-Fi Meshes, Andy has always considered this a prototype of the conventional version we all know.  Perhaps it utilized tech that was far too advanced for the era, hence it was reworked and made into the Galaxy design at a later time.

[serverandenforcer]

From what I read over at Sci-Fi Meshes, Andy has always considered this a prototype of the conventional version we all know.  Perhaps it utilized tech that was far too advanced for the era, hence it was reworked and made into the Galaxy design at a later time.

Here's a link to Tobias Ricter's CGI render of the ship... http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=28446

I really love the details he went into on this ship.  It really looks like a complete overhaul of the current Ambassador class and significantly increased in size to be on par with a Galaxy class. 

[Captain_Licard]

Epic to be exact, no offence to the Cannon Enterprise C, but this design looks way better

[metalnick]

 That Design looks really similar to Dj's Alberta class. At least to my eyes. I don't much care for the nacelles and pylons though. (On the concept, not DJ's ship)

[Locke]

A bit similar, mainly around the deflector area.

[Captain_D]

That Design looks really similar to Dj's Alberta class. At least to my eyes. I don't much care for the nacelles and pylons though. (On the concept, not DJ's ship)

I definitely agree with that, as a matter of fact, I think it would look a whole lot better with something along the lines of the Alberta's pylon-engine setup with a Galaxy Class take on it.

 Change the engines and it would make a great looking Dawnstar Class also.

Since there is all this awesome new reference material out, I would say when WileyCoyote gets back to this design or whoever wants to take up the job, we will have another winner here.  

[limey BSc.]

Epic to be exact, no offence to the Cannon Enterprise C, but this design looks way better

I think, while it may look good, it doesn't fit into any design lineage. The canon Ambassador was a plausible stepping stone between the Constitution and the Galaxy.

[Locke]

In what way do you not see a design lineage here?  I keep looking at it, and it makes some very logical steps from the Enterprise B design pointing straight at the shape of the Enterprise D.  Specifically: the shape of the secondary and primary hulls.

[NXSovereign]

I found a link to those 3D pics of the ship in another forum where Probert was praising the winner of Star Trek Online's "design the next Enterprise" contest & the first thing I did was come here to see if anyone was working on adding it to BC(The Ambassador, not the Ent-F).  Wow, this is DEFINITELY what they should have used in TNG. It looks so much more like a mid-step between the Excelsior and Galaxy, as opposed to the "official" Ambassador which (no offense to the designer) looks more like a 24th century Constitution-Class.  Count me is as supporting this ship being added to BC.

[serverandenforcer]

I think, while it may look good, it doesn't fit into any design lineage. The canon Ambassador was a plausible stepping stone between the Constitution and the Galaxy.

Actually, if you really think about it, the overall basic design of the current Ambassador class is actually a step back from the Excelsior class.  The current Ambassador class returns to the roots of the basic secondary hull desgin that is familiar to the Constitution refit class.  Deflecotr dish and bussard colectors were also similar to that of the original Constitution.  The only thing that was different was the warp engines, impusle engines, saucer section, and phaser arrays.  The concept design looks like a step forward from Excelsior that would be of a major influence on the design of the Galaxy class... advanced secondary hull design, impulse engines, saucer seperation with independent impulse engines, and a delfector dish and phaser array setup that is very simliar to that of the Galaxy class.

[JimmyB76]

the only thing i dont really like about Probert's design is the deflector dish...  it just looks silly to me personally...  everything else is cool tho, IMO...
if it had the deflector dish that DJ's Alberta Class has instead, i would be much more fond of the ship...

[Vedic]

Uh I really hate this concept, I like the View from the side, as it looks "normal" but the top down, ect just make it looks FUgly

[mckinneyc]

I know I am probably going to take heat for this but I think the canon design is much more beautiful than the concept design.

[Nebula]

I like the concept soo much better than what we got... XD
though both ships have their charm.

[Lionus]

I see that it has dual Impulse engines, one in the neck and one located on the saucer's trailing edge.. Saucer Sep??

[mckinneyc]

Yeah it looks like the concept has saucer sep, there are clear seperation lines on the hull.

[majormagna]

I must admit, there are two things on this ship I don't like, well, three:

The nacelles look strange, like a mix of Constitution, Excelsior and what the Ambassador turned out to be.
The Saucer impulse engines stick out a bit too far in my opinion; too Constitution refit style in my opinion, Excelsior style would have been better.

[Locke]

I must admit, there are two things on this ship I don't like, well, three:

1. The nacelles look strange, like a mix of Constitution, Excelsior and what the Ambassador turned out to be.

2. The Saucer impulse engines stick out a bit too far in my opinion; too Constitution refit style in my opinion, Excelsior style would have been better.

 . . . and the third would be?

[deadthunder2_0]

Quote from: majormagna on May 29, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
I must admit, there are two things on this ship I don't like, well, three:

1. The nacelles look strange, like a mix of Constitution, Excelsior and what the Ambassador turned out to be.

2. The Saucer impulse engines stick out a bit too far in my opinion; too Constitution refit style in my opinion, Excelsior style would have been better.

 . . . and the third would be?

1. The nacelles look strange, like a mix of Constitution, Excelsior and what the Ambassador turned out to be.

2. The Saucer impulse engines stick out a bit too far in my opinion; 3. too Constitution refit style in my opinion, Excelsior style would have been better.

[majormagna]

Actually I classed 'the nacelles' as two things... Well; technically they are!