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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #340 on: December 04, 2009, 04:34:44 PM »
I stopped watching after they blew up the original K-9. >_>

I wish I did, but I was curious to see how badly they would screw up the K-9 character.

The result:
Pretty damn badly.  :(

EDIT: Also, regeneration for a MECHANICAL dog?!? That doesn't make sense, even in fiction!
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« Reply #341 on: December 04, 2009, 08:35:47 PM »
As far as I'm aware it is not endorsed by the BBC... Or at least not a part of Who canon, considering the ACTUAL K9 makes regular appearances in the Sarah Jane Adventures.

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« Reply #342 on: December 25, 2009, 02:02:41 PM »
How did they...? who the....? where the hell....? what a set up episode, new years day must not disappoint

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« Reply #343 on: December 25, 2009, 02:06:54 PM »
Shame the Daleks aren't around to say hi. That would've been cool!

Any bets on who the old woman is? Romana would be nice. :)
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #344 on: December 25, 2009, 02:17:54 PM »
The BBC aren't sitting around...

Behold, exclusive clip of the next episode and another trailer!:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S0_09

That was incredible though... Most suspense I've felt in years...

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #346 on: December 25, 2009, 06:52:53 PM »
That was AWESOME!! And more!!

What an ending, oh man!! Brilliant!!!!

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« Reply #347 on: December 25, 2009, 07:21:02 PM »
I have predicted this would happen since episode 1  " Rose" and just wondered how long it would take. still...whoo hoo!!

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« Reply #348 on: December 25, 2009, 07:27:21 PM »


wow

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #349 on: December 26, 2009, 05:14:18 AM »
Yeah, their return doesn't look like a good thing...

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« Reply #350 on: December 26, 2009, 05:25:50 AM »
I wonder who the old woman that Wilfred keeps seeing is?

A few possibilities:
1. The Doctor's mother
2. One of the Doctor's former companions, including Rose, but just older
3. Susan Foreman, the Doctor's granddaughter
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« Reply #351 on: December 26, 2009, 05:39:37 AM »
I wonder who the old woman that Wilfred keeps seeing is?

A few possibilities:
1. The Doctor's mother
2. One of the Doctor's former companions, including Rose, but just older
3. Susan Foreman, the Doctor's granddaughter

Or as I posted before, Romana. There's nothing to say she died and she probably does have the ability (being a Time Lady and all) to only show herself to Wilf. I mean, we keep learning new things about the Time Lords, as far as I can tell, there's almost virtually nothing they can't do.

Also seems to be a running theme: Bring back a dead/ancient race in full and watch them try to destroy creation.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #352 on: December 26, 2009, 08:19:29 AM »
I just hope RTD hasnt done what he's done with the daleks and cybermen time and time again, bring them back, kill them off, bring them back, kill them off, I don't know if the Doctor could take the psycological damage of causing the genocide of his race... twice

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« Reply #353 on: December 26, 2009, 02:49:52 PM »
I wonder how David Tennant's Doctor will be forced to regenerate? I hope it is something epic and not something stupid like getting shot or hit by a car right near the very end of The End Of Time Part 2.
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« Reply #354 on: December 26, 2009, 05:33:08 PM »
She could be Romana , but somehow that feels off, i have predicted Romana was one of the Docs wives, happening between series, The Doctor's mother is a very possible thing, she could be any number oif things, she could even be an avatar of the time lord matrix, but the real question is..who is timothy dalton?

is he...

1.) the Master in a future incarnation?
2) the valyard? (the doc's possible final regeneration seen in " trial of a timelord")
3.) Borusa ? (somehow freed from stone prison ala five doctors)

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #355 on: December 26, 2009, 06:27:17 PM »
She could be Romana , but somehow that feels off, i have predicted Romana was one of the Docs wives, happening between series, The Doctor's mother is a very possible thing, she could be any number oif things, she could even be an avatar of the time lord matrix, but the real question is..who is timothy dalton?

is he...

1.) the Master in a future incarnation?
2) the valyard? (the doc's possible final regeneration seen in " trial of a timelord")
3.) Borusa ? (somehow freed from stone prison ala five doctors)

I don't think Gallifrey, as it was depicted in Part 2's trailer, is back in a sense. It is more likely a flashback of sorts, depicting what the Time Lords were like in the final days of the Time War. However, we see them talking about the final days of Earth and Gallifrey, indicating that their point of view took place somewhere in the past. Timothy Dalton's Time Lord may not be either the Valyard or what John Simm's Master would look like in the future, but he may have been in 'cohorts' with the Master (Anthony Ainley era) in some way during Gallifrey's last days.

They may have been planning a takeover of universal proportions, not that it wouldn't be difficult for a Time Lord mind you.

I'm using Anthony Ainley's Master as an example because after that, it is canon that his physical body was killed while on trial on Skaro but that his essence had survived as a slug-like creature and eventually took over the body of Bruce in the TV movie, resulting in Eric Roberts Master, and since Eric Roberts Master never even made it back to Gallifrey alive, this is a most likely theory.

We know that Derek Jacobi's Master was resurrected from the Eye Of Harmony in the Doctor's TARDIS, which was constantly connected to the Untempered Schism on Gallifrey, giving the other Time Lords direct access to the Master's atomic signature, allowing them to ressuerect him as a child with new regenerations, planning for him to fight in the Time War. But we also know, that Derek Jacobi's Master escaped Gallifrey because of the impending Time War and used the Chameleon Arch to store his Time Lord consciousness in a fob watch.

By doing this, he made it impossible for the other Time Lords to find him, meaning its possible that Timothy Dalton's Time Lord would not be able to find him either, and thus, meaning that he and John Simm's Master never met up again because Timothy Dalton's Time Lord character would have died in the Time War with the other Time Lords.
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« Reply #356 on: December 27, 2009, 03:33:49 AM »
it's not a flashback. the clip i show below clearly shows them discussing ' the doctor still posseses the moment' and another trailer on youtube the doctor says 'the time lords are returning'.

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« Reply #357 on: December 28, 2009, 01:38:14 PM »
maybe RTD is using elements of plot from the lance parkin "galifrey chronicles" where the 8th doctor was supposed to have destroyed galifrey but an event horizon in relative time prevented anyone from Gallifrey's past from travelling beyond Gallifrey's destruction, and vice versa. Both the planet and the Time Lords could be restored if a sufficiently sophisticated computer could be found to reconstruct them.... the computer being the gate thing, I say this because the president said something about the master not knowing how significant a part he'd played

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #358 on: December 28, 2009, 02:53:36 PM »
it's not a flashback. the clip i show below clearly shows them discussing ' the doctor still posseses the moment' and another trailer on youtube the doctor says 'the time lords are returning'.

No, that scene is during the final day of the Time War:
1. If Gallifrey survived, I hardly think they would've left a huge smoke trail and fires around and Dalek saucers everywhere.
2. A Time Lord says "All of her prophecies have come true. This is the final day of the Time War, that Gallifrey falls, that we die, today."
3. The Time Lady says "The Doctor still posesses the moment which he will use to destroy Daleks and Time Lords alike."
4. The Time Lady proposed ending time and was killed by Timothy because he didn't want to die.
5. In the ending of part one, Timothy says very loudly: "For Gallifrey, for victory, and for the end of time itself!" so that must mean that the exclusive clip came abefore the current events.
6. That 'other trailer' is exactly that. Trailers don't use chronology, they (usually) always pick the good bits which don't reveal too much and they don't care what order they put them in.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #359 on: December 28, 2009, 05:15:20 PM »
My theory: Like Davros and the Daleks in "The Stolen Earth/Journey's End", perhaps someone or something (the old woman Wilf keeps seeing - likely a Time Lady or someone linked to the Doctor in some fashion - or perhaps the rise of the "Master race" on Earth, humanity ceasing to exist) once again breaks through the lock on the Time War, bringing Gallifrey and the Time Lords back into the "present" era.

If the Master was the catalyst, well, at least he doesn't have to worry about losing his sanity. He's already nuts.  :D
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