Kophjaeger WIP: K'tinga Class!

[Kophjaeger]

It is sorely under represented on Legacy and BC.


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The project already 2.5k and I haven't even thought about the engines yet. Trying to keep it simple enough so it's quite playable, but the Cheese Wedge class demands details....

[Toa_Kaita]

Very cool! I know what it is!

[King Class Scout]

um...Buck Rogers?

[vonfrank]

Is is a cannon ship, or non-cannon?  .....or is it even a Trek ship?

[Nebula]

its one of those stealth battlestars.

[Kophjaeger]

I guess that angle does have a Dracco Buck rogers look.

It a battlestar, quite canon as the Valkyrie, but yet to be reproduced (accurately) on the open gaming circuit. I never though about it being stealth... but that actually would make a lot of sense considering the couple of brief air times she appeared.

Currently weighs in at 6k, and most of the mesh is formed, so with details, I think I can keep her under a very playable 12k and maybe a single 2048^2 skin.


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Any of you BSG guys have a class name suggestion? I was thinking Triton or Yashuman, or something else totally. Since Blood and Chrome really messed up the convention, making this a pre-Galactica design, I think the class should start at BSG-24. Instead of replacing the "Valhalla" class name given the earlier rendition (available on Legacy FF), I am going to keep that as a separate class altogether.

Is there enough of a BSG following on BC to put more like this out?

[King Class Scout]

I suggested "Caprica"

and yes, the nose looked like the 70's Buck rogers ship

[Kophjaeger]

Remembering why I never made more Battlestars... they look so simple though. Just over 15k, trying to keep it down, but the guns really ate it up.


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[mckinneyc]

She is gorgeous

[Kophjaeger]

Finally to the skin, which is crawling along. Trying to make the details pop with some shading and airbrushing.


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[ACES_HIGH]

I guess that angle does have a Dracco Buck rogers look.

It a battlestar, quite canon as the Valkyrie, but yet to be reproduced (accurately) on the open gaming circuit. I never though about it being stealth... but that actually would make a lot of sense considering the couple of brief air times she appeared.

Currently weighs in at 6k, and most of the mesh is formed, so with details, I think I can keep her under a very playable 12k and maybe a single 2048^2 skin.


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Any of you BSG guys have a class name suggestion? I was thinking Triton or Yashuman, or something else totally. Since Blood and Chrome really messed up the convention, making this a pre-Galactica design, I think the class should start at BSG-24. Instead of replacing the "Valhalla" class name given the earlier rendition (available on Legacy FF), I am going to keep that as a separate class altogether.

Is there enough of a BSG following on BC to put more like this out?

Actually the production staff was a bit confused about the hull number, it doesn't mean BattleStar #75, like you would expect from modern navy hull numbers, it's supposed to be BattleStar Group 75, hence why the numbers are so mixed up on the show.  Also I think the Valkyrie mentioned in B&C is supposed to be a different ship, I don't recall actually seeing this design on screen in that episode.

Have you looked at the Freespace Mod BSG: Diaspora?  The main ship in their next release campaign is supposedly going to be a Valkyrie type.

[Kophjaeger]

I had not heard of the diaspora, but it looks promising. The Valkyrie type is seen in the ghost fleet by Canceron. I think they were trying to rationalize the inconsistent BSG numbers, but they pulled an ever annoying writers gag, to go counter-convention just to mess things up. I'd almost prefer that is was not in there since that would lend to some conjecture as to whether the 'other' Valkyrie design was still plausible. Now that we have seen this to predate Galactica, who knows. They also called the Osiris a battlestar, which seems a bit small for for one, so what is in a BSG anyway then?

[ACES_HIGH]

My guess is it's something like a modern Carrier Battle Group, a collection of cruisers and smaller ships centered around a battlestar.  The Valkyrie is obviously much smaller then either the Galactica or the Pegasus, so perhaps the Valkyrie is some sort of support battlestar, an escort carrier designed to work as part of a BSG with a much larger capitol battlestar.

Your right about Valkyrie, I took another look at the ghost fleet scene, it is there, just way in the background.  I don't know if that means it predated Galactica, only that it was in service at the same time.

[Saquist]

After a good break, I have gotten back to this with some vigor. It's in the tweaking stage, and if anyone has some input that would be great. Tiq, are you down for some hardpoints...?

I'm not feeling it the top of the head doesn't match the body.
It's best view is from underneath where most thing are in unison.
I would get rid of the gun ports or add warp nacelles bellow them to make this a bit more substantial as a reason not go with a Bird of Prey.

[Kophjaeger]

Unfortunately this ship has sailed, but that is some good feedback.

I presume you mean the armor colors don't match? They do match the engine armor though... The guns were a fine line, but the whole point of the design was to put guns on a battlecruiser like frame, and pull off the scale just right that they trick the eye. I honestly thought the shape of the loop on them was too much of a give away on them; although I took much from the 22nd century designs, I really didn't want a throw back or cross-era hybrid.

[Kophjaeger]

I think i am wrapping up on the details. If there is anything glaring off or missing let me know. The Logo is set up for Legacy and BC, and if there are any requests, give me a holler. The BS Prometheus Wiki lists her as Odin class, which it totally made up, but since canon is always going to be limited I see no reason to contradict.

A few names to choose from: Triton, Yashuman, Poseidon, Valyrie, Indra, Argo, Uned, Night Flight...

[tiqhud]

Shame the HP in BC is limited, in all things can use. Absolutely ready for combat, look at ALL them weapons. 

[Shadowknight1]

I freely admit to not being a huge fan of the NuBSG series, especially the soap opera-esque "Are you a Cylon?  Is she a Cylon?  Am I a Cylon?  Why don't I remember being a Cylon?" bs, but that is one sexy Battlestar.

[Kophjaeger]

^ Hehe, they did write themselves into some corners. Could have gone the way of Lost though.

TY sir.

[Kophjaeger]

A new project to tack on to the last. If you guessed right before, you know what it is.

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Some musing about the BS-75/BSG-75 registry mess. Where I think we get mixed up it the assumption of a carrier battle group the way we think of surface groups. We have seen that Vipers have a registry, and they also have an abbreviated tag, "Viper3" and whatnot. Consider though that the Battlestar may not have two numbers, it is just BS-whatever, and all support craft (which would be minimal since it is generally a multipurpose platform) have their own registries, but are assigned to whatever their flag group is. Thus, a warstar or gunstar would never have a BS registry; they are always support ships, but would have their own separate registry (it would be silly to reissue you patches because the flagship sunk). Not all BS's being created equal, BSGs would also not be run of the mill. The little BS Osiris seems to be an infiltration (space littoral?) ship, and may only have a small fighter/raptor wing, geared towards it's function. Not far off from the variety of flotillas that we operate, carrier group, amphibious, destroyer squadrons...