Star Trek: Discovery Discussion (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[Darkthunder]

There are quite a few other similarities besides the usage of tardigrades.

[Tuskin38]

There are quite a few other similarities besides the usage of tardigrades.

There really isn't.

[Darkthunder]

Yeah, no similarities at all...

[Tuskin38]

The character design that Stamets allegedly "ripped off", he didn't reveal until after Anthony Rapp's casting (the date on that image is wrong) so that one is just bullshit.

None of the characters have similar personalities.
The plots are also not similar in any way. (Pretty sure Discovery's plot has nothing to do with Egypt)
The game is also pretty sexist, so fuck that noise too.
Everything else is just coincidental, and things he can't copyright as they're common in the world.

Abdin's lawyers filed their response:
https://www.scribd.com/document/395087984/Abdin-v-CBS-Broadcasting-Inc-Et-Al-Nysdce-18-07543-0039-0

[Tuskin38]

new trailer

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[Lurok91]

Great trailer 

[Tuskin38]

Here's another non-geolocked one since CBS locked the previous one

There is a new BTS video but I can't find a non-geolocked one yet, other then on twitter, but it's in portrait, not fullscreen

https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1073638756106862592

[Tuskin38]

A new BTS video had a shot of an enterprise Spec Screen, and the info was taken right from the TOS tech manual. Like 1:1. It also had straight pylons.

Very odd.

[Darkthunder]

"odd" that they are sticking to relatively canon information... for a change.

Hopefully the screen model will look like that behind the scenes diagram, and at the correct size.

[Tuskin38]

A perspective corrected version:

"odd" that they are sticking to relatively canon information... for a change.

Hopefully the screen model will look like that behind the scenes diagram, and at the correct size.

We've already seen the Season 1 design in several trailers and on the official Season 2 poster that came out last week. So it's either a mistake on the art departments part, or maybe the ship gets a refit between Episode 1 and the end of the Season.

The dialogue in the video contridicts the screen, Burnham says there are 203 crew members onboard (which matches the number of crew given in 'The Cage' BTW) while the computer screen says 429.

The proportions of that model on the right also don't work with sizes given on the left, if the DSC Connie model was 72.6 meters tall, it would still be around 370-380 meters long. The neck is too short on that design to fit the numbers.

Anyways, have a new image of Pike and Number One. With a very TOS Looking computer pad

[King Class Scout]

it's weird seeing Number One with a Burger

two things just became screen canon (which is the ONLY way some people accept canon, including even Word of God), enterprise's Launch Year, and TAS' Bob April having first shot at Enterprise

[Tuskin38]

TAS has been canon for a while now, since the mid 2000s.

The dates though, if the screen is readable in the final episode (it might not be), it will make them solid canon.

Memory-Alpha has had them for a long time now. Mostly as guesses based on math.

So according to the booklet that comes with the Eaglemoss DSC Enterprise, the front of the bridge dome can change opacity, and the actual view screen is way further in the dome.

The designers did this so they could keep the dome shape, but also have the window that the people in charge wanted.

It also says it the ship was designed at 1500 feet. Not 300 and then scaled up like the Kelvin Enterprise was.

[King Class Scout]

*smirk* if you check the FASA starship battles ship splatbooks, even those guys put the Connie's release date around that time (corrected a bit for being 60 years off).  Gene himself had originally said enterprise's launch year was 2245 with Bob April in the center chair (thus "word of God")  but like I'd said previously, some fans accept absolutely no data as true unless it's literally been used onscreen.

[Tuskin38]

The trailer after the latest Short Trek has an updated scene from an earlier trailer

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Also a featurette on pike

[Tuskin38]

Episode 1 Reviews

https://decider.com/2019/01/07/star-trek-discovery-season-2-premiere-brother-review/
https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019/01/07/star-trek-discovery-season-2-review/
https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/star-trek/278352/star-trek-discovery-season-2-episode-1-review-brother
https://www.cnet.com/news/star-trek-discovery-season-2-discovers-a-new-sense-of-adventure/?openLogin=1

[Darkthunder]

Reading the first review from "Decider", I note the following:

One of the best aspects of Discovery was that, unlike every other Star Trek series, this was a crew that didn’t know each other, and often didn’t like each other.

My breakdown of past Trek crews:

TNG: Started out with a skeleton crew on the bridge; No First Officer, No Chief Engineer, No Chief Medical Officer. The Captain had never met his First Officer, or what later turned out to be his Chief Engineer. What he knew about Riker came from logs, and vague knowledge about La Forge. This was not a "crew that knew each other" from the start.

DS9: Starfleet, Bajorans, Shapeshifter and a Ferengi. All trying to work together, without killing each other. The Bajoran First Officer, absolutely hated having to take orders from a Starfleet Commander (Captain) at first. The Chief of Security was distrustful of it's new Commander.

VOY: Starfleet and Maquis forced to work together due to circumstances. While this was quickly resolved within the first season, there was a fair amount of bickering and disagreement between the two crews, before they became "One crew".

Forgive my longwindedness above, but when the reviewer praises Discovery for having a crew that didn't know each other from the start, while simultaneously laying claim that previous Trek crews were all familiar with one and other at the start, gives me very low appreciation of what may follow in said review.

[King Class Scout]

one of the novels does this to the TOS crew as well.  poor Jim, fresh out of regen, is stuck with a pissy Spock, Scotty, and Sulu, is on a soft start assignment dealing with a Vaudville revival entertainment group for bored starbases while dealing with a rebel Klingon noble and a first contact situation with a superspecies that moves the universe

[Tuskin38]

Reading the first review from "Decider", I note the following:

My breakdown of past Trek crews:

Forgive my longwindedness above, but when the reviewer praises Discovery for having a crew that didn't know each other from the start, while simultaneously laying claim that previous Trek crews were all familiar with one and other at the start, gives me very low appreciation of what may follow in said review.

Yeah, but most of their issues were basically solved in the first couple episodes, it took Discovery nearly an entire season to get there.

[Darkthunder]

Yeah, but most of their issues were basically solved in the first couple episodes, it took Discovery nearly an entire season to get there.

That's beside the point. The review author claimed that NONE of the past shows had these issues. They were all integrated, happy crews from the start. The Discovery crew having these issues, is perhaps best caused by Mirror Lorca and his behavior vis a vis the crew. If the crew had any intelligence before the big "mirror reveal" of Lorca's true origin, they would've mutineed or in the very least contacted someone higher up on the chain of command. His behavior was hardly what I would consider "Starfleet material", and the crews behavior followed suit.

[Tuskin38]

You're over thinking it.

His behavior was hardly what I would consider "Starfleet material", and the crews behavior followed suit.

Not really. We've seen rough captains like him before.