Author Topic: TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS)  (Read 207162 times)

Offline Darran

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I have litterally this second come back from seeing it and ............... WOW, it is just totally awsome, it got applause at the end, I went with the guys tonight I'll be taking the girlfriend to see it again on sunday it's that good

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Offline baz1701

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Just got back, Hmmm it was star trek but then not!!

I was suprised to say I liked it.

Things I did not like was the love triangle thing and the lower decks of the Enterprise, they looked like they ran out of money and filmed in a local factory.

The ship has grown on me though she'll never stop my heart like the Connie refit did sat in the drydock in the TMP.

My verdict, good 7 out of 10 will see the sequel
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Just got back, Hmmm it was star trek but then not!!

I was suprised to say I liked it.

Things I did not like was the love triangle thing and the lower decks of the Enterprise, they looked like they ran out of money and filmed in a local factory.

The ship has grown on me though she'll never stop my heart like the Connie refit did sat in the drydock in the TMP.

My verdict, good 7 out of 10 will see the sequel

Keep in mind that it seems JJ was going for a throwback to the current ships we have sailing the seas. The discussion has been done on this thread, but still...

Take a look at images of any luxury liner, the engine room is never as nice as the rest of the ship, and really, it helped me believe it a little more.

...I will say now that I do like the scales of things. Explains many things we were all complaining about earlier. :P


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

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der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
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Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

Offline Tuskin38

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I... loved... it....



That is all.

Offline JimmyB76

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i suppose i could go see it in a regular theater, but i really want it to be in IMAX, and i dont want crappy seats; im a snob, i know...
the IMAX theater has like 400 seats, im really surprised all of todays and tomorrows shows are practically sold out lol

maybe i can catch the 4pm show on Monday...  so far, it looks like only 9 seats have been sold for that show lol
and the 1pm show would be too early, id prefer having lunch and a few beers first at one of the restaurants in the mall the IMAX theater is in...

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I was blown away when I saw this film tonight. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow if I can. It was that awesome.

Also, point defence phaser turrets seen in action firing. For. The. Win.

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I was blown away when I saw this film tonight. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow if I can. It was that awesome.

Also, point defence phaser turrets seen in action firing. For. The. Win.

My heart raced for the first time in a trek action sequence during that.


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

Quote from: JimmyB76
der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
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Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Sod ODEON. I'll book an IMAX seat in a London IMAX theater. I'll have to do it for Sunday and I'll have to memorize the way to an IMAX as I don't really go to London socially.

But I have a bad feeling that I'm not going to like this movie. I don't know why but I am just still not sure.

EDIT: Fully booked  :( . Only avaliable times on Sunday is either 2:30am, 5:30am or 9:00pm. And there is no way in Hell I will ever walk the streets of London in the early to late evening.
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Drink. Drink. Drink. Trust me, if you go into this movie with a negative view, you'll leave only half satisfied. Just keep telling yourself "Alternate Universe" and you'll be right. Worked for my mate :P


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

Quote from: JimmyB76
der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
---
Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

Offline JimmyB76

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But I have a bad feeling that I'm not going to like this movie. I don't know why but I am just still not sure.
thats how i feel, i just cant help it...  but i will keep an open mind...  i know i have my preconceived notions already, but ill ignore them until about halfway through the movie where i will either feel more confirmed about them, or ill dismiss them altogether...

And there is no way in Hell I will ever walk the streets of London in the early to late evening.
why not?  just go for some drinks beforehand... 

Drink. Drink. Drink.
thats what i plan to do first, have some drinks right before; even if it is a 4pm show ill go to, liquid lunch for me :)  lol

Trust me, if you go into this movie with a negative view, you'll leave only half satisfied.
perhaps...  tho before i ever saw BSG for the first time, i assumed it to be yet another stupid sci-fi show, but within 10 minutes of the first scenes in the miniseries, i was instantly blown away and hooked and chastised myself for having prejudged it lol  i hope this will occur again...  i guess ill find out soon enough...

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A few of the federation starship classes really peaked my interest, a three nacelle'd miranda (the saucer was HUGE!) , what appeared to be a "Federation Class", A connie with the nacelles attached to the saucer instead of the secondary hull (a TOS version of the kitbashed connie from BOBW? ), a really hard to describe 4 ( 5? ) nacelled ship (with a miranda type torpedo pod/rollbar on steroids). Anyone find any caps of the fleet as it departs the starbase? (only saw them all for a few seconds).
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that last one you described is actually 2 nacelles(with roll bar between)  and 2 engineering sections....
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That what that was? Barely saw it, and with some of the nacelle designs it was hard to define sec hull from nacelle, lol. But man, the phaser shots and point defense weaps from the Kelvin and the phaser flurry from the big E at the end were sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
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I consider myself a rather "hardcore Trekkie", thou without all the geeky necessity for uniforms, phasers etc.

And I enjoyed the movie completely. Did it screw up past Trek? Possibly. Was it a fun and enjoyable movie? Definitely. Will it reenergize the audience and get people interested in Star Trek again? Only time will tell, thou for my part i'd say JJ Abrams and the gang did a very good job on this one.

All the little nods to the Star Trek that came before (From "Green Blooded Goblin" to "Admiral Archer's pet beagle"), surely helped it along quite a bit. For my part, i'd say this is a future of Star Trek that follows on primarily from ENTERPRISE, due to the appearant "High tech" of the Big E etc.
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Sad. That's all I can say. A media icon has fallen, and to BASE it on a money-grabbing weak attempt of a show like Enterprise is beyond insane. Don;t get me wrong, Enterprise had it's moments, but when a show doesn't get interesting until it's fourth season, there's something wrong. And to try and revamp a franchise based upon it is ludicrous. The much-touted special effects were really things we've all seen a thousand times by now. The FX in the first 5 minutes of Revenge of the Sith were far better. Star Trek has never been about the special effects, but the humanity of the characters. This movie struck me as shallow, and not well thought-out. It destroyed the Trek legacy, apparently just for the sake of destroying it.

I really tried to go into this one with an open mind, I really did, even though I was fairly sure it would end up like this. And I'm sure my view will not be very popular on this board because it is mostly populated with neo-trekkies who started watching with TNG or DS9 or Voyager. This is not the Star Trek I have loved for more than 25 years. To wipe out 43 years of history-making franchise to try and get the teen ticket buyers in is not good motivation. Had this featured the TNG/DS9/VOY cast in a final send-off before resetting history, it might be more palatable. And a decent Trek director, like Nick Meyer or Jonathan Frakes, might have made it believable. They could have given it the attention necessary to at least mask the fact that this was a blind grab for money for Paramount. Instead, we get JJ Abrams, a very typical director for this day and age who focuses too much on "epic" shots and effects and completely glosses over the character interactions and social issues that made Star Trek great.

It was a fairly good Trek story, but it could have been told just as well, if not better, with the a new 24th century crew and a new Enterprise-F. I mean, how many times do we need a time-travel story? And rather than passing this off as an alternate timeline, or something preserving Trek's past, Abrams completely obliterates it in favor of this slick, glossy ghost of Trek that doesn't stand out at all from other recent sci-fi fare. What makes this inexcusable is not the execution of the movie itself, but the cold disregard for what came before. To throw a few random one-liners from McCoy into the movie is just a lame attempt to keep diehard Trek fans from burning this one at the stake.

The cast was actually pretty good, and this only throws into relief the fact that this movie could have been a solid and enduring installment of the Trek franchise. The only gripe I had was with the characterization of Kirk. Chris Pine did a decent job, but the character comes off as a jerk and and egomaniac. Is there something wrong these days with having a truly heroic character that we don;t have to weigh down with a lot of personality problems?

The new Enterprise has been discussed thoroughly for the past year. Some love it, some hate it. I for one hate it incredibly. It has taken the distinctive look of Trek and made it look homogeneous with every other slick CGI spaceship in the last 10 years. There's no character to it, and it looks so much like a 50's Cadillac that I expect to see spock beam out of it in a pimp suit.

There is one glimmer of hope for me as a Trek fan. With the movie being so Spock-centric, it is entirely possible that the older 24th Century Spock has fabricated all of this within his mind because of some mental disorder (Bendii Syndrome, anyone?)

In all, Trek is not finally dead, but continues on life support for the time being. Only time and sequels will tell if this new direction will live up to the Star Trek name, but the mission was definitely not accomplished here.
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Drink. Drink. Drink. Trust me, if you go into this movie with a negative view, you'll leave only half satisfied. Just keep telling yourself "Alternate Universe" and you'll be right. Worked for my mate :P

It's JJ's job to keep me from thinking that. If I had to make up my own story reasoning, what would be the point in going? His job is to turn negative views around. In some areas he accomplished this. In most, he failed utterly.
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That's is however your opinion, and IMO he succeed to bring Trek back....

No matter the concessions made some fans will never be satisfied.
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undedavenger, are you sure you saw the same movie?  Everything I saw reflected the humanity of all the characters.  Yes, even Spock.  It was a fantastically good Trek movie, the likes of which I haven't seen since The Wrath of Khan.  All the little nods to the original and Enterprise just made it even better.  There are references to pretty much EVERY one of the other TOS movies, with the possible exception of 6(I can't remember, brain still hasn't processed much of what I saw).  The movie was just great and I can't wait for two things.  The first is to see it at least two more times before it leaves the theaters.  The second is...well, the second movie!  Now, what should they call it...Star Trek II is already taken, lol!

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Well I went and saw the prescreening Thursday night and I was really impressed with this one.  Finally I get a Trek fix after years of waiting, hopefully this will renew peoples interest in trek and get us a new series, probably just wishful thinking but what the hell. 

Anyway, I thought JJ and company did a good job for the most part, I thought the special effects were great and the new crew did a damn good job of capturing all of the little manorisms of the TOS crew, also enjoyed the backstory on the Kobiashi Maru simulation, lol.

Definately one of the better trek films I've seen for a very long time, probably since TWOK.  9/10 IMO.   8) 

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Well I know I havent seen it yet (damn birthday has to come late doesn't it?) but there is one thing I can say:

This is not the same Trek we grew up with. It's like when they brought out TNG. Different actors, new ship, new crew. It was filmed for the Generation of that came time and also set a couple of generations after TOS. I think of it as TNGATSITOSWABD (The Next Generation After That Set In The Original Series With A Big Difference).

Simply = It's a different Trek based on the original.
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