TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[blaXXer]

apart from that, Schneider's reasoning about Trek XI and the nuENT is pretty much incoherent rambling about how he does not like it.

An unfortunate side-effect when you try to get more people into Trek. Half are happy with it, the other half start riots.

Damn fundamentalists everywhere. If everybody was drunk and relaxed we wouldnt have such problems.

/rant

[Villain]

You mean everybody isn't?  :shock:

[blaXXer]

Im drunk right now, so I'm getting a kick..etc etc

[Aeries]

Damn fundamentalists everywhere. If everybody was drunk and relaxed we wouldnt have such problems.

/rant

HERE, HERE!!  :lol:

[Shadowknight1]

Yeah, shame there aren't more detailed sites like his that are more fact and less opinion.
Here's a pic of the Quantum Mechanix model, officially licensed by Paramount. Nevermind the "Drooping Nacelle Syndrome" on the model.

Yeah, almost all variations on that model seem to suffer that.  I sure hope the mass-commercial-production models don't. ;)

[undedavenger]

Yeah, shame there aren't more detailed sites like his that are more fact and less opinion.
Here's a pic of the Quantum Mechanix model, officially licensed by Paramount. Nevermind the "Drooping Nacelle Syndrome" on the model.

Looks like McCoy needs to apply some Viagra to those nacelles!

[Aeries]

Yeah, shame there aren't more detailed sites like his that are more fact and less opinion.
Here's a pic of the Quantum Mechanix model, officially licensed by Paramount. Nevermind the "Drooping Nacelle Syndrome" on the model.

That's what happens when scotty gets his hands on people's ample long nacelles... they instantly go all droopy.

[Shadowknight1]

The writers answer some questions, take a look: http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/22/orci-and-kurtzman-reveal-star-trek-details-in-trekmovie-fan-qa/

So it is Admiral Jonathan Archer, so the unfortunate beagle Scotty beamed was probably Porthos IX or something.

[Nebula]

Just thought I'd post the highlights here for quicker viewing and quoting.

Highlights of Orci & Kurtzman May 18-20 Q&A

    * Open to TNG character in sequel (if done ?organically?)
    * 10,000 surviving Vulcans does NOT count off-worlders
    * Vulcan?s red sky (was) seasonal
    * SpockPrime will adhere to a ?Temporal Prime Directive? to minimize introducing future tech into new timeline
    * Enterprise being built at Riverside Iowa Shipyard to ?commemorate the sacrifice? of George Kirk
    * New timeline still bound to canon events that took place in the prime timeline (like Botany Bay, V?Ger, etc)
    * Spock Prime?s viewing of the destruction of Vulcan was cinematic license and ?impressionistic? and could have involved a telescope or other device
    * No ?canon? explanation for what Nero and crew were doing for 25 years between Kirk?s birth and arrival of Spock Prime, open to ?fan fiction?
    * The Admiral Archer mentioned by Scotty is the same Jonathan Archer from Enterprise (and Enterprise is part of new timeline)
    * The attack on the Narada put Winona Kirk into labor preventing Kirk from being born in Iowa (as in the Prime timeline)
    * Inconsistencies between film and "Countdown" can be explained that the comic is not canon
    * Keenser was in Starfleet while on Delta Vega, just like Scotty
    * Paramount expected to make the script available (checking on this)
    * Kid on road (?Johnny?) was "originally meant to be" Kirk?s brother George Jr. and "still could be"
    * There?s money, or some kind of credit system in this universe
    * The second ?lightning storm? referred to in the film was created when SpockPrime?s jellyfish arrived back in time
    * Bridge viewscreen changed to window/HUD to justify the bridge?s placement atop the ship instead of in a more secure location
    * Damon Lindelof contributed ?a lot? to the story of Star Trek
    * Lindelof will be ?breaking the story? with Bob and Alex on sequel, Bob and Alex will write final screenplay
    * Survivors and telemetry from Narada attack on Kelvin exposed Federation to Romulans (explaining why Kirk knows about Romulans and so film does not violate canon of "Balance of Terror")
    * Although ?Prime? is used to distinguigh Nimoy?s Spock, the team have no name for the new timeline
    * Star Trek wiki Memory Alpha was an ?invaluable resource?
    * New Stardates work by taking the year (as in 2233), with the month and day expressed as a decimal point from .1 to .365 (as in the 365 days of the year)

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Sorry Nebula, I accidentally clicked "modify" instead of "quote". I put the post back as it were from the broswer cache. ~ Senator

[Shadowknight1]

The second of Ryan Church's concept art, the Jellyfish!




Unlike the concept art of the Enterprise, the Jellyfish really didn't change much from concept to "reality".

[Darran]

where can we see the concept art for the Enterprise?

[Shadowknight1]

Huh, thought I posted that, well here it is again:

[Senator]

Highlights of Orci & Kurtzman May 18-20 Q&A
...
    * There?s money, or some kind of credit system in this universe

Boo! Hiss!

[NeoSilverThorn]

Highlights of Orci & Kurtzman May 18-20 Q&A

* The Admiral Archer mentioned by Scotty is the same Jonathan Archer from Enterprise (and Enterprise is part of new timeline)

 

That makes sense; seeing as Narada's arrival wouldn't have done anything to alter Enterprise's place in the timeline.  And on another note, that statement means that Scotty has apparently killed Archer's beagle, Porthos.  Poor Porthos...

The money thing makes some sense to me, since it gives a baseline of worth for goods, and makes for somewhat less erratic barter.

[Shadowknight1]

Maybe not killed, but the dog is certainly lost in subspace.

[Darkthunder]

Highlights of Orci & Kurtzman May 18-20 Q&A
...
    * There?s money, or some kind of credit system in this universe

Boo! Hiss!

And the problem being?

Star Trek IV: Gillian: "I guess you don't have money in the 23rd century?" - Kirk: "Well we don't."
Star Trek VI: McCoy: "Maybe it's a retirement party?" - Scotty: "That suits me, I just bought a boat."

Do you see where i'm going with this?

[Aeries]

Highlights of Orci & Kurtzman May 18-20 Q&A
...
    * There?s money, or some kind of credit system in this universe

Boo! Hiss!

And the problem being?

Star Trek IV: Gillian: "I guess you don't have money in the 23rd century?" - Kirk: "Well we don't."
Star Trek VI: McCoy: "Maybe it's a retirement party?" - Scotty: "That suits me, I just bought a boat."

Do you see where i'm going with this?

First Contact: "No money!? You mean you don't get paid!?"
"The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives; we work to better ourselves and the rest of society."

[Nebula]

"The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives; we work to better ourselves and the rest of society."

ya know that doesn't really say that money isn't used... it just says it isn't a driving force.... meaning the first priority.

[Kirk]

Gold Pressed Latinum & Ferengi

/discussion

[newman]

"The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives; we work to better ourselves and the rest of society."

ya know that doesn't really say that money isn't used... it just says it isn't a driving force.... meaning the first priority.

No, but the two sentences before this one - "No money? You mean you don't get paid!", which are said after Picard literally said that THERE IS NO MONEY IN THE 24th CENTURY - are pretty clear.  :roll:
I'm always amused at how much some fans are willing to stretch the facts beyond belief, just so it fits their vision more neatly. Sci fi as big as Trek is bound to have inconsistencies. They established the no money society, then at certain points chose to ignore it (though as far as I'm concerned Star Trek V is a joke, not a movie, so I'm not taking anything in it seriously). Honestly the whole "no money" thing would never work the way Trek tries to sell it anyway - it was a utopian 60's vision that got stretched beyond reason and plausability as the years went by.