TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[086gf]

Well, this is officially the most attended Trek movie domestically. They say its very likely that it will gross 250 million in the US and that it will make 370-380 worldwide.
http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/20/star-trek-passes-tmp-to-beomce-most-attended-film-in-franchise-domestic/

Here are more recent numbers.
http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/22/st09-tidbits-weekend-box-office-interview-bits-from-pine-abrams-nimoy-kurtzman/

Orci and Kurtzman say the next two movies could be linked...they could be not. That and ofcourse more about the Khan possibility.

"We literally have not started to break story yet.  We are just getting through all this ['Transformers' press] and then figuring out what we are doing next. We have had one ten-minute conversation the other day, but that is it."

But apparently they did cover some ground in that 10 minute convo. Collider also talked to the pair at the event and they said Paramount wanted to make the film "as soon as possible" and they were debating the two kinds of possible plots, specifically Orci stated

"exploration sci-fi plot where the unknown and nature itself is somehow an adversary or the villain model. That?s an active discussion we?re having right now. In terms of thinking about more than one movie, we want the movie to be self-contained in a way, but we?re discussing the idea of having a couple of threads where if the second movie works, you could pick up into a cohesive whole."

Specifically Orci cited the example of Spock giving his katra to McCoy in Star Trek II and how that paid off in Star Trek III. 

Orci also talked to our friend Ed Gross who has an audio clip up at ComicBookMovie, who asked him specifically about Khan, with Bob noting it is "obviously tempting" to use Khan again, and noted what a great villain he is, in the same pantheon as Darth Vader. However, Bob also noted that there are risks of going back to Khan saying they are "of two minds" and asked "why take the chance?"

http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/20/orci-kurtzman-talk-star-trek-sequel-and-the-one-after-that-too/

[Shadowknight1]

Please for the love of Roddenberry, don't let them do Khan!  No Khan, no Klingons, no Romulans!  We need something new.  The Gorn would be nice, or something more...explore-y.  No re-hashing pleaaaassse!

[mckinneyc]

Agreed Shadow.

Star Trek 2 is by far the best movie and stands up well against all others. We really don't need a remake of it.

I'd like the Gorn or the Tholians to be the bad guys for a change as we've had Klingons in a six films and the Romulans in two.

Come on Orci and Kurtzman actually think of something original!

[rengers]

I think it's kind of funny and interesting, that the film in germany is still behind the attendance of Nemesis,
and in the USA Nemesis was the financial unssuccessfull film of the hole series, and in the USA the new film is now the
most successfull film...

Though i think the reason for that is the lack of promotion in my country :?

[newman]

I just figured out what J.J. stands for. Jar Jar! Can't believe it took me this long to figure it out, the movie was a dead giveaway

[Villain]

I just figured out what J.J. stands for. Jar Jar! Can't believe it took me this long to figure it out, the movie was a dead giveaway

Cookie'd for a slick joke.

Personally I'd love to see a new version of Khan. He deserves to be in this era, being one of the coolest villains ever. That and I want Pine to shout "KHAAAAN!"

[Dalek]

I think Khan should be left alone. He was truly unique and should be allowed to remain in the history books that way. He deserves to be on his own

[JimmyB76]

No re-hashing pleaaaassse!

interesting; here i have observed so very much praise and excitement from the generic general population for rehashes/reboots/remakes/etc... heh  
lol j/k

[Nebula]

The movie was a reboot of the series not a rehash of a previous story...

That's the line.

[JimmyB76]

reboot, rehash, redo, remake...  whatever you want to label it, the "re" (meaning "again") still all means the same

[Dalek]

When it comes to a "rebooted" series, you expect new stories, not rehashes of old ones. Basically what nebula said but I'm saying again.

[JimmyB76]

wow you people are too much...  always the nitpickers...
*sigh*

did anyone actually happen to notice the "lol j/k" and "" in my post?  
to most people, that would be indicative of a joke...  no need to nitpick jokes, my tightly-wound friends...  

(*gasp!*  oh look!  another ""!   could that mean im only joking around and not being so very serious as everyone else?)

i hope they redo (another one of those "re" words - did i choose the correct one?) every single TOS episode in the same lovely elements (that i so did love - uh oh prepare for another ""!) that this movie was done in!
 :arms: :lol:

[Dalek]

Nitpicking a nitpickers post is no good to this nitpicking community since the nitpicking just goes on and on and on...moving on..

[JimmyB76]

Nitpicking a nitpickers post is no good to this nitpicking community since the nitpicking just goes on and on and on...

but going around in circles is always good fun!  lol


back to earlier, surely they couldnt be able to do any sort of Khan storyline for the next film, could they?
i mean, the Khan TOS eps were well into the Enterprise's days, and this is all still very much near the beginning of it all...  it seems that a bit more time should pass before they meet up with Khan in the first place?
i personally hope they dont do a Khan storyline...  not just yet if at all; if anything IMO they should really branch away from great plots already been done and go into new (yet somewhat familiar i suppose) realms... 
too bad this couldnt be a series tho...  then they could do a little bit of everything as the season(s) progess...

[Dalek]

Indeed. I think the Tholians should make the main appearance in whatever film comes next. I thought there portrayal in the Mirror ENT episodes were fantastic and would do really well in a film. Lots of webspinners and other ships having a hack at the Jar Jar-Prise...muahahaha.

[Nebula]

I hope they redesign parts of the New ent for the next film to reflect some of the Phase 2 design.

[JimmyB76]

tho are both really good ideas, if they did do something like that, i would be quite a bit more excited to see that film than i was about this film lol

the Jar Jar-Prise...muahahaha.

lol *cookied*

if anything, i do hope they listen to and take into account all the fans are saying and learn from the praises and critques of the previous film...

[Senator]

Agreed Shadow.

Star Trek 2 is by far the best movie and stands up well against all others. We really don't need a remake of it.

I'd like the Gorn or the Tholians to be the bad guys for a change as we've had Klingons in a six films and the Romulans in two.

Come on Orci and Kurtzman actually think of something original!

Actually I am still waiting for a Romulan movie... :x

[Dalek]

True. Romulans that aren't power-crazy independant Romulans/human rip offs with non-Romulan ships that blow stuff up. I wanna see a D'Deridex in a movie!

But I say Tholians next.

[Shadowknight1]

If they do HAVE to re-hash an old episode, then I put forth the Doomsday Machine.  That way they avoid ticking off fans if they screw up the casting(Matt Decker'll die anyways, who cares who plays him).  Avoids the whole Khan dilemma.  Also guys, we have to remember, Khan wouldn't be vengeful angry Khan yet.  He'd be scheming, conniving Khan who can beat Kirk in a fist fight easily.  Some things to think about though, in the new timeline we would still have the Botany Bay out there drifting, the Doomsday Machine traveling through the galaxy, V'Ger on its way home, the "whalesong" probe on its way to check up on the humpback whales, and the Borg would be out there somewhere.

No Neb, they can't redesign it, then I'd have to buy the toy all over again!

No Jar Jar.  Nothing in the universe is as annoying as Jar Jar.  Not even the movie's lens flares or Chekov's accent.  :arms:  That's the one thing I liked about Keenser.  He had the potential to be a Jar Jar-like character, but unlike Jar Jar, he kept his mouth shut except for one line.