StarGate + Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers

[Psyco Diver]

Not really, its because the show is run by BSG makers cause I never remember SG ever taking a break midseason, but I remember BSG doing that. Honestly I don't think its a bad thing to take a break mid season, but not this long of a break, this is just stupid

What "BSG makers" are you referring to? Ron Moore has absolutely ZERO involvement with anything regarding Stargate.

Pretty much all tv-shows have a mid-season break that lasts between 1-4 months.

Well I meant writers and what not

[Billz]

Not really, its because the show is run by BSG makers cause I never remember SG ever taking a break midseason, but I remember BSG doing that. Honestly I don't think its a bad thing to take a break mid season, but not this long of a break, this is just stupid

What "BSG makers" are you referring to? Ron Moore has absolutely ZERO involvement with anything regarding Stargate.

Pretty much all tv-shows have a mid-season break that lasts between 1-4 months.

Well I meant writers and what not

Again, anyone that has worked on BSG has nothing to do with the stargate franchise.
I think you are getting the 2 franchises mixed up because both BSG and Stargate Universe use the god awful 'shaky-cam' methos of filming.

[Kirk]

I think you are getting the 2 franchises mixed up because both BSG and Stargate Universe use the god awful 'shaky-cam' methos of filming.

[Billz]

Kirk's picture.

 :wtf

[Psyco Diver]

Not really, its because the show is run by BSG makers cause I never remember SG ever taking a break midseason, but I remember BSG doing that. Honestly I don't think its a bad thing to take a break mid season, but not this long of a break, this is just stupid

What "BSG makers" are you referring to? Ron Moore has absolutely ZERO involvement with anything regarding Stargate.

Pretty much all tv-shows have a mid-season break that lasts between 1-4 months.

Well I meant writers and what not

Again, anyone that has worked on BSG has nothing to do with the stargate franchise.
I think you are getting the 2 franchises mixed up because both BSG and Stargate Universe use the god awful 'shaky-cam' methos of filming.

I thought some of the BSG people were working on SGU?

[Darkthorne]

Actually its the SyFy (I really dont like the rename still) channel's doing... by splitting the season they can get away with halting production and calling it two seasons (they did it to farscape orderd two seasons split season 4 and called the split 2 complete seasons so they didnt have to fund a 5th season)  If you look how they advertised the last season of Battlestar they basicly tried to sell folks that the last half of the final season was a complete and seperate entity also.

I personally hate the practice, we see it now on other NBC-owned properties (Burn Notice on USA for example). It just gives a feeling like they are leaving ways to back out of any successful show (which imho SGU is not) for whatever reason they wish to. That cant be a good feeling for MGM who right now cant even afford to make some garunteed hit like a third SG-1 or Atlantis Movie and literally need to have a solid successful show in production with what is hopefully a very long run (Didnt they have the beginings of one in Atlantis?).

As for season 1.5 of SGU (if it tanks wonder if they will just call it season 2 and be done with it?) it looks promising but I really am not sure its going to deliver much. Only Time will tell

[Billz]

I thought some of the BSG people were working on SGU?

No.

[El]

The problem with SGU, was the same fundamental problem that rBSG had; Lack of humour, little real team work.
Extended long mid-season breaks don't help with continuity (just look at V, on break after 4 eps!)

IMHO SGU has to seriously buck up its ideas, and be more tru to the franchise history.
Personally I think its the humour and teamwork that made SG1 and SGA so successful.

We don't need another soap opera in space (rBSG).

[Psyco Diver]

The problem with SGU, was the same fundamental problem that rBSG had; Lack of humour, little real team work.
Extended long mid-season breaks don't help with continuity (just look at V, on break after 4 eps!)

IMHO SGU has to seriously buck up its ideas, and be more tru to the franchise history.
Personally I think its the humour and teamwork that made SG1 and SGA so successful.

We don't need another soap opera in space (rBSG).

Totally agreed, I like the back storys and the plot twists of BSG, but I also liked that sense of fun SG1 had. If they could get the 2 together awesome. It kinda reminds me of the X-files. That show could be dead serious, but still throw a funny joke in there, and also through some interest plot twist along the way. What I think that made the show is that it wasn't about the characters, it was about the story, and I think SG1 had this, the characters were the primary focus, the story was. SGU seems to be to try to push the characters on us by telling us all their back stories, thier feelings, everything they think, instead of it just coming out over time like SG1 did. The characters were part of the story, instead of being JUST the story.

[Villain]

X-Files was also a masterpiece. Stargate is your run of the mill scifi (With comedy encouraged), X-Files was your run of the mill Twilight Zone (With comedy accepted).

I don't get it, I thought people liked character-driven stories?

What everyone seems to be missing is the fact that SGU was an unsure thing from the getgo, it was so radically different in terms of the Stargate flow (Much like Voyager actually, hurrdurr, not in the "OMG WE'RE OUT HERE STRANDED" sense) TV is rubbish these days, and if it doesn't sell immensely well straight up, the idea is thrown away and people are paid to come up with new ideas, or rehashes that the current generation can stare at the TV like the desensitized zombies they are and enjoy it for a while before they get bored again.

(This following is not typed in bias) I really don't blame anything on SGU for the first half of the season being purely for scene-setting and character backstories, writers just doing what they can to get as much in as fast as they can not only to keep themselves afloat but to try and appease the radically varying opinions that nitpickers and the generic scifi viewer/nerd will jump on (Inconsistencies, for example, or information that is just very fortunately divulged a minute before it becomes important, or technology that can solve a universe of problems "Why didn't Voyagers amazing deflector dish just send her back home?")

IMO, when we get to see this half is when we'll be able to see the show start to shine. Just watch.

[Darkthunder]

Reviving this topic, as Stargate Universe returns in the US, tonight on SyFy. Aussies will need to wait 1 week for the episode to air, and in the UK, it airs on April 13th. According to news, the back half of season 1, promises to be a major improvement over the first half. I hope this is true, as the first half was incredibly boring throughout most of the episodes so far.

This from TV-Guide: ( Spoilers ahead )
A snafu with the communications stones lands Col. Young?s consciousness in an unknown being, resulting in a standoff between the Destiny and an alien vessel and the abduction of Chloe.

[Psyco Diver]

Watching now, must say, whether or not I would say this show is "Star Gate" or not, still awesome my jaw is on the floor

[Nebula]

well I liked it

[Billz]

We british have to wait 1 week and 2 days for the mid season premiere.

Only one thing for it.

TO THE INTERNETS!!!
*cue 60's batman theme*

[Villain]

We british have to wait 1 week and 2 days for the mid season premiere.

Only one thing for it.

TO THE INTERNETS!!!
*cue 60's batman theme*

That's illegal.


Anyway, brilliant return, I honestly wasn't expecting them to come in straight away but still, it was very neat. Possibly my favourite first contact scenario ever. The dead, uneasy silence between the two ships spoke volumes to me. Can't wait for next week, because if they can keep this up...

[Darkthunder]

That's illegal.

There are legal sources to download movies, music and episodes these days.

[Villain]

Point me to a website that lets me pay-for/legally download shows right after their american release (Outside the US) and I'll concede. 

[Darkthunder]

Well, Hulu.com is a good place to find them. And even non-US citizens can access the site, freely. There is nothing illegal about using a proxy server to access sites otherwise restricted by country/region.

[limey BSc.]

Well, Hulu.com is a good place to find them. And even non-US citizens can access the site, freely.

When last I checked, very, very little was available for non-US users

There is nothing illegal about using a proxy server to access sites otherwise restricted by country/region.

Actually, I'm pretty sure there is. The whole reason they region-lock things like Hulu is because they don't have copyright permission in other countries. Stargate, for example, can only be shown in the UK by BSKYB. They own the UK copyright to it.

[1DeadlySAMURAI]

Actually, I'm pretty sure there is. The whole reason they region-lock things like Hulu is because they don't have copyright permission in other countries. Stargate, for example, can only be shown in the UK by BSKYB. They own the UK copyright to it.

Well no, it's illegal for the site to break a copyright. That's why your Stargate example is UK only.
But it's not illegal for a visitor to that site to move around a region block.
It's to different laws so don't confuse them. ;)