Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Holy thread revival!)

[Shadowknight1]

I think it was mentioned earlier, but there is already a ship that has that name.

[Villain]

Yeah, the USS Patriot I believe.

[Dalek]

I don't think giving a ship an actual persons name is a good idea. I would only go for names like that if you were getting desperate. Avalon and Caliburn sounds nice.

[NeoKaede]

I'd say Avalon Class USS Caliburn would be pretty cool.

Calibur class USS Cervantes de Leon sounds better

Damn, why don't I just call it the USS Algol? Cervantes weilded the Edge though, never the Calibur.

Ok, Ok. Then turn it into a god ship and call it USS Xianghua :lol:

Off-topics aside, Avalon sounds better. I can imagine a canon ship called USS Avalon.

[Villain]

Perhaps the NX version will be the Avalon, and the first Production the Caliburn... I dunno, tough choice.

[Dalek]

Perhaps the NX version will be the Avalon, and the first Production the Caliburn... I dunno, tough choice.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Aeries]

Avalon? Caliburn? Such pretty names.... :3

[FarShot]

I'd take the opportunity to work on something with the deflector in the saucer, like on the Enterprise J.  I'm working on a little sketch atm.

Also, while we're talking about nacelles, I was thinking that a ship that only moves when it needs to doesn't require bussard collectors.

[Villain]

I'd take the opportunity to work on something with the deflector in the saucer, like on the Enterprise J.  I'm working on a little sketch atm.

Also, while we're talking about nacelles, I was thinking that a ship that only moves when it needs to doesn't require bussard collectors.

The ship needs to move with the fleet, and needs to be able to operate on it's own (For emergency missions, peace talks and the like)

[Dalek]

Hmm. Would love to see more of the Unnamed Class vessel, USS Anonymous.

[Villain]

Yeah, I've been pretty slack with the modelling side. I still am yet to be content with what I have on paper (Sketches and planning)

[gclark03]

It needs to be BIG in order to fulfill its role as THE command platform of the UFP. Multiple warp cores. Three bridges, one deep within the ship. More deployable craft than God. Slow maneuvering, but powerful phaser coverage and a redundant shield system. Take it to the limit, in other words.

Also, give it 78 decks in order to counter that Star Trek V turbolift shaft numbering error.

[Kirk]

3 bridges? Wouldn't that just confuse the hell out of the crew? And why does a fleet coordinating ship need to be slower than a rocket and half the size of the moon? The defiant was one of the smaller vessels and Sisko commanded many fleet operations from her.

[antagonist]

Also, smaller command ships have a huge advatage over flying fortresses...they're harder to hit and can retreat into other ships' cover faster. Remember, if the command ship gets blown to pieces, the battleplan goes to hell in a hand basket.

[FarShot]

I disagree.  First of all, this is not a simple FLEET command ship, but a FED command ship i.e. a mobile starbase for the Federation.  I can understand 3 "bridges": an actual bridge used in combat and fleet movement, a Starfleet command center, and a Federation command center.  Plus another for internal bay ops.

BTW, I finished my scetches.  It has a massive internal bay.

[Villain]

Well, you hit the mark. This ship WILL have three bridges. I've been going over the paper version, and with the amount of craft it will carry, it will require a third bridge for fighter/Smaller Craft Operations. The second will be the Fleet Operations deck, both of these are on the same level, a deck under the main bridge (Ship Operations). I've worked some Impulse Engines onto her, two (bigger than the Excalibur's) Grids segmented to react as 4 engines. While these are big and numerous, they require additional input beyond the recommended levels due to the mix-up in power distribution, an issue that is already being worked out.

In terms of other ships in the fleet (i.e: Not the Excalibur) She is big.

Anyway, I have an update! I worked on the secondary hull. Personally, I like the stumpiness of the primary hull on the underside. I dunno why, but.. Yeah. The weird design on the deflector is not permanent, I was just playing around with it.

C&C, pretty please.

[Dalek]

Yes! She's looking good and you've called her Avalon. Yay! Can't wait to see her warp engines!

[Villain]

Thanks mate, I'm still unsure about the primary hull, I may rework it while retaining some of the original look. The Nacelles though.. I am still having a little trouble (Post-Nem designs seem to give me loads of trouble.) Especially as in order to keep with the rule that nacelles should share 50% line of sight, I'm giving it a Galaxy style two coils per actual Nacelle.

Also, I like the underside and compact-ness in those sketches, Farshot. Gives me a few ideas.

[gclark03]

How will this thing be scaled? Can you give us a comparison chart to, maybe, a Galaxy for reference?

[Villain]

if it is placed with the back of it's secondary hull against a wall alongside the Excal (Where the Excal is pressed back with nacelles included) it just comes up to the front of the Excals bridge. It's a few decks shorter too, I'll do a render with the Excal to show.