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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2008, 03:00:39 PM »
The Avalon is actually planned to have a thru-deck on the secondary hull (Well, 2 decks tall). Putting one on the underside limits space. Something a command vessel would want (Especially after all the technology stuffed in it.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #81 on: September 07, 2008, 10:19:40 AM »
All this talk of Defiant clamps got me thinking about extras for the Avalon. So I had a play around on paper and came up with this. As I really don't like the old version of the actual USS Prime, I'm thinking I could redo it and put it to use with the Avalon somehow... Unfortunately I can't figure out how i want the hull to "End".
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2008, 12:05:45 PM »
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Unfortunately I can't figure out how i want the hull to "End".

Fluidically [sp]. If this ship is future-tense, the primary hull ought to flow seamlessly into the secondary hull, and that into the pylons. Just something to think about.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2008, 12:07:47 PM »
Yeh, not stuck together by glue and held up by sticks. Take the Excalibur, Supremus, Enterprise-F, Arcadia, Century and many others as examples!
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2008, 06:57:09 AM »
The problem is the ship lacks a secondary hull, there will be a small bulge where the Warp Core is, but that's about it. I could just have the back kind of end, but... I dunno just yet. Actually, I think I have an idea.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #85 on: September 08, 2008, 11:43:38 AM »
Well, stick on a secondary hull! The Defiant only just gets away with it! Cos its small and nippy. This is a big fat bastard that at least deserves a little better.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2008, 07:02:09 AM »
This craft isn't that big, as it has to be able to hook onto the Avalon.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP
« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2008, 09:38:45 AM »
...Yup.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #88 on: December 05, 2008, 10:30:26 AM »
Mithra/Supremus/Excalibur-esque secondary hull? :P looks nifty.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #89 on: December 05, 2008, 10:32:58 AM »
Kinda reminds me of a whale personally, which fits because.. Well..

Anyway, I'm stuck again because Nacelle design bites.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2008, 10:50:05 AM »
Think big and bulky, with perhaps some extra supports and things like that. Maybe take a peak at the Excalibur nacelles and pylons.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2008, 11:05:34 AM »
Was just looking at it actually. The problem is the Saucer is too large to have the typical Roddenberry design. So, hanging over or hanging under?
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #92 on: December 05, 2008, 11:07:00 AM »
I'd say under, personally... somehow the larger the ship, the lower the nacelles just makes sense in my head... don't ask why, I have no clue. In any case, I'm pretty sure we'll all like whatever you come up with. :]

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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #93 on: December 05, 2008, 11:10:04 AM »
How about inbuilt nacelles?
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2008, 11:32:39 AM »
Normally Limey, I'd call you a genius and cookie you on the hour every hour but... I dunno, it'd look tadpole'y.

I get what you mean Aeries, it does kinda just sound right. Though this is smaller than the Excal (Just barely. ;P)
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2008, 02:46:46 PM »
how about a ring around the saucer?




or maybe not around the centre of the saucer but towards the back of it?
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2008, 03:31:42 PM »
Brings a new meaning to "Ringdrive"  :lol:

I appreciate ll the suggestions guys. I think I may have one though, provided I can actually put t down onto paper. I'll demonstrate when I can get on a decent comp.
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...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #97 on: December 09, 2008, 07:28:34 PM »
Hi, guys.  Just thought I'd announce I'm back.  :D

Anyways, could you post a top view of that model?
And while you're at it, a front view?
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #98 on: December 10, 2008, 10:53:12 AM »
Welcome back!

Also, sure, I'll get 'em done when I get home.
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Re: Avalon Class Fed Command craft WIP (Some kinda update 6/12)
« Reply #99 on: December 12, 2008, 05:56:37 AM »
Alright, so here's a front and top shot.
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...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.
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