Phobos class

[Kirk]

Perhaps you could look at CR's Kelvin for some ideas.

[baz1701]

From Ver2.jpg it looks like you're going to add an engineering section or something there, am I right?

Sorry no, I want it to be more of a Miranda class look than Nebula class. The after section at the moment is a guide and will be rebuilt before I finish.

like it, but does look like the roll-bar is a tad high.

It will look better once the weapons pod is added.

[baz1701]

new after section. not smoothed yet

[FarShot]

IMO, it looks too non-Sovereign.  The only resemblance is the saucer and nacelles.  If I were you I'd take it this direction.

[baz1701]

IMO, it looks too non-Sovereign.  The only resemblance is the saucer and nacelles.  If I were you I'd take it this direction.

With all due respect, the saucer and the nacelles were the only thing resembling the Miranda from the Connie. I'm not trying to create a Nebula version of the Sov, there will not be a secondary hull. Also I'm not trying to make a TNG version of the Miranda were they stuck all kinds of bits to the Reliant model to make new classes.

I want it to capture the lines of the Reliant but more in the slick Sov design.

[FarShot]

This is all IMHO, so don't think I'm a Nazi.  :lol:

I don't mean the structure, I mean the style.  The secondary hull/engineering looks too non-Sovereign class.  I'm not thinking of a Nebula-style Sovereign - like Kirk said, the Kelvin is good as a Sovey/Nebula.  The blacker areas to the side and back of the bridge that lead to the impulse engines - that's the style I think of for the back half.  Yours reminds me of a 2360's style, like if a Galaxy class had that.  I think it should be more streamlined, more like the Sov's secondary hull.  Keep the broadness you modeled, but I think it definitely should be slenderer.  Same with the weapons pod.  It should be more streamlined.  And the pylons probably should be more angular, like the Sov's.  There aren't any curves in the Sov's pylons.

That's my opinion. :arms:

[baz1701]

This is all IMHO, so don't think I'm a Nazi.  :lol:

Perish the though, we all have opinons 

As for your ideas first the ones I prefer mine.

Roll bar, too angled
torp tubes on the engines - can imagine an engineering no no.

Ideas that have merrit but would have to think about.

streamlining the aft section - But I don't want a cone shape on the back. I want the lines to resemble an updated Miranda not a Sov. A happy medium will be hard but variations of the design can be made by others after release.

Phasers on nacelle pylons - Though I'm happy with the current pylons.

I'm planning to put the deflector on the roll bar with torp tubes either side.

Please keep the ideas coming it helps with things I may have missed, but I have to be the judge at the end of the day since there is no reference to follow.

[baz1701]

re-styled the rear end

[Dalek]

Why are the warpies hanging down?

[Raven Night]

I like it...I would like to see the engines a bit farther back, but they do work where you have them as well.

I would recommend you consider reducing the width and/or height of the deflector/engineering pod. Perhaps just a bit thinner width wise, or even closer to the hull if you put the deflector into the saucer.

The top looks great IMO, including the roll bar.

[baz1701]

Nacelles  moved back, rear section silmed alittle more and smoothed. I am now happy with it and finalised it.

[Raven Night]

Wow, that makes a huge difference....still nice and stocky, but a bit sleeker looking. The position of the nacelles spell more speed compared to the old version IMO. Good job.

[Aeries]

I like how this is progressing.

[MarkyD]

agreed, it does look better with the necelles placed slightly further back.  good job.

[baz1701]

Added the bridge module

[baz1701]

catpain's yacht and lower torp tubes

[FourChan]

Looking sweet, I wonder what the finished products going to look like.

[Jay Crimson]

I'm no fan of upside-down nacelles but I really like the overal design!

[FarShot]

I'm no fan of upside-down nacelles but I really like the overal design!

If you're not tired of any more suggestions, I have just one more... 

If you refer to my little concept sketch, you'll see I added a bit to the underside (or now the top) of the nacelle.  I'd just like to point that out - I always thought nacelles would be great places to stick torpedo or pulse launchers.  This also adds a bit of depth to the nacelle-pylon joining point.  Just another suggestion. 

EDIT - While reviewing the posts, I noticed that you mentioned my weapons-on-the-nacelles idea in your I-don't-think-so section.  Sorry for being a not-read-the-entire-post person. 

[moed]

I'm no fan of upside-down nacelles but I really like the overal design!

Agreed, the design is excellent but with the nacelles upside down it looks like some kind of futuristic snow sled...

I must say that the upside down nacelles does give it somewhat of an unusual aesthetic look but overall, right side up just looks more "right" for lack of a better word.