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« Reply #260 on: February 17, 2008, 01:20:28 PM »
0.333...333 makes it sound as if the 3s end however.
That's not 1/3 for the same reason that if you ended the number in 0.33 it wouldn't be because if you put 3 of those 1/3rs together 0.33+0.33+0.33 you'd have 0.99 and still need a 0.01 to get a a 3/3 (or 1)

For 0.333... you need a number bigger than 0 (since you say that 0.333... is not 1/3) but smaller than 0.000...

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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #261 on: February 17, 2008, 03:00:53 PM »
Looks like a very nice decimal to me, it simply happens to have an infinite amount of 3s after it, the same way 1.0000... has an infinite amount of zeros behind it.

Now, if 0.333333... < 1/3, then there has to be a number where 0.33333... + x = 1/3
Since 0.333333... at any point is always "slightly less" than 1/3, x would be something like 0.0000...01 right? But since 0.33333... continues for infinity, the zeros in 0.0000... continue for infinity as well.

Obviously a 0 with an infinite amount of zeroes behind it is the very decimal 0 and 0.333... + 0 = 1/3, and so 0.333... = 1/3. No?

Just because a number can't be defined doesn't make it non-existant. For example, pi. Infinatley and thus impossible to write down, but that doesn't mean that pi=3.1415, that is just a reasonable approximation of it. The same for e and i.
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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #262 on: February 17, 2008, 03:20:34 PM »
In case you don't know: 1 = 0.999999999?

No it doesn't. The logic behind that arguament is flawed.

1/3 =/= 0.33333333


Well, you define the recuring numbers as a fraction by taking the recuring bit (i.e., 9) and placing it over 9. 9/9 = 1. Or 0.23232323... as 23/99. Something like that I believe. So 0.3333... is 3/9 = 1/3.
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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #263 on: February 18, 2008, 03:37:33 PM »
(Aw, curses. I think I might have edited my previous post instead of my last one, overwriting it, and then I saw it again and thought it was some kind of double-post thread error and deleted it. The quote below was from it.)~Senator
1/3 on the other hand, is regular. By manually doing the division we know that we will always get 3s and that the 3s will never stop. And there is no more accurate way to write that of cource than 0.333... In paper you would actually add a line over it to show that the 3s are recurring, but you wouldn't put that line over 3.14...

We also KNOW that there must be something after those infinite 3's as 3x3 is 9, not 10!
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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #264 on: February 18, 2008, 03:47:20 PM »
Another prove, one way or another. In a ternairy counting system the following is true:
0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 = 1
Rewritten to a decimal system:
(1/3) + (1/3) + (1/3) = 1
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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #265 on: February 18, 2008, 05:20:48 PM »
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We also KNOW that there must be something after those infinite 3's as 3x3 is 9, not 10!
a) There is no after in infinity.
b) Very well, since you are worried that if you multiply 0.333... with 3 you might end up with a number like 0.999... but you have accepted that you can multiply such a number what about multiplying it by 10?
When we have digits and we multiply by 10 we know what happens, the dots moves one position to the right no? Watch then:

x = 0.333...
10x = 3.333...

10x - x = 3.333... - 0.333...
9x = 3

x = 3/9
3/9 = 1/3

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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #266 on: February 19, 2008, 03:26:51 PM »
"There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum." ? Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #267 on: February 19, 2008, 04:29:30 PM »
did you know the glasses used in quarks bar where really upside down candle holders.

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« Reply #268 on: February 19, 2008, 06:16:43 PM »
Did you know that the capatins chair used on the bridge of Commander Shran's ship is actually Janeways from Voyager.


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« Reply #269 on: February 19, 2008, 06:18:14 PM »
Also did you know that the only piece of the Phase 2 set (also seen in TMP 1-7 and TNG) to be seen in Enterprise is the cieling in sick bay.


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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #270 on: February 20, 2008, 03:39:28 PM »
NSN is military storeman speak for Nato Stock Number.  All equipment in nato forces (right down to the smallest, tinyest bolt) has a number. 

They look like this

8415 99 323 6718
That is the number for
Trousers, Thermal, Reversible Olive/Sand

The second group of  numbers (99 in this case) denotes the country of origin.  99 being the UK, 01 being the USA. 
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« Reply #271 on: February 20, 2008, 03:45:00 PM »
Did you know that Jeffery Coombs played Weyoun, Shran, Brunt and a few other characters? Apparantly Weyoun was his favourite to play.


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« Reply #272 on: February 20, 2008, 03:56:20 PM »
BC takes 53000kb of virtual memory, and just under 14500kb of physical memory to load up to a minimal BC without errors?

This gives you only a cursor. And the Console doesn't work (yet).
Mind you, part of that 14500kb was used to create a couple of classes to redirect the output to a file, to see if an error had occurred.
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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #273 on: February 20, 2008, 06:02:57 PM »
Not very sure if this is true but funny enough:

"It's been reported that proud Soviet automakers challenged their American counterparts to a competition at the Brussels World's Fair in 1958.

A Swiss engineer made an exhaustive comparison of a Soviet and an American car, and he favored the American.

After an awkward pause, the Soviet press reported that "in a recent international auto competition, the Russian car placed second and the American car was next to last.""

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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #274 on: February 22, 2008, 04:10:03 PM »
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"Girl" at school was 39-year-old man
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TOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man was arrested for trespassing this week after turning up at a high school dressed in a girl's uniform and a long wig, local police said.
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When students standing outside the gates started to scream at the sight of him, he dashed inside the school grounds, hoping to blend in with the crowds of teenagers, the paper said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2257905520080222

How did they manage to see through his, most perfect disguise?

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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #275 on: February 22, 2008, 04:37:19 PM »
Niiice.

I bet he'd benefit from a dose of SAS escape and evasion training!

The SAS (22 SAS now, not 21 or 23 which are both TA units) are also known as "The Regiment" and as "THEM".
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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #277 on: February 25, 2008, 02:30:57 PM »


Holy hand grenade... though surely it mustn't be that difficult as a chain of trolleys that long would be flexible enough to bend around like that so you don't have to do any sort of wierd linking then pushing together (essentially forming it simultaneously, like you would when you have a circle of people who have to sit on each others knees) move.
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« Reply #278 on: March 04, 2008, 11:27:17 AM »
So some of you might have seen this:

(ok, probably you haven't. At any rate, that was an artistic, "concept exploration" in 2007)

Now today:
http://www.physorg.com/news122819670.html

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RE: Somewhat Useful Facts Thread
« Reply #279 on: March 04, 2008, 01:02:49 PM »
 :shock: Oh, that was SO cool! I love how it slowly develops itself into first nations' artwork along the guy's back... very nice vid. :)