Author Topic: Nemesis Sovereign Retexture - Released (Read 17789 times)

eclipse74569 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 04, 2009, 01:47:35 PM »

Quote from: Bones on October 04, 2009, 01:19:39 PM

Oh boy... Sovereign never looked so bada$$ before now all we need is FC studio model texturing ;)
Cookie time !

What the heck do you think I've been trying to do Bones?

Sheesh lol I'm not calling my ship pack the FC pack for nothing y'know

Though I can't wait for this to be released :eek

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 04, 2009, 03:34:42 PM »

This looks really good, but why is the secondary hull darker than the primary hull? It looks strange...

Jb06 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 04, 2009, 04:33:40 PM »

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 04, 2009, 03:34:42 PM

This looks really good, but why is the secondary hull darker than the primary hull? It looks strange...

That's because that's how it's supposed to look like

Quote from: Phaser on October 04, 2009, 01:08:23 PM

Looking really nice, Jb06. As I said in the Trek discussion thread, just be careful with the hues and colors, as those renders you're basing this off of don't use the same lighting scheme as used in the movie.

Yeah i've got a few hundred screencaps of Nemesis, so these are not just based on them ref pics Erk posted.

@Everyone else: Thanks for the really great comments, glad everyone is liking it so far.

Right haven't been to work on this the past few days, but ive got a couple of hours work in today. so here's some progress. The saucer is just taking abit of time, especially the canon azteching

Note the new deflector ;)

~Jb

Bones · « **Reply #43 on:** October 04, 2009, 05:10:00 PM »

Quote from: eclipse74569 on October 04, 2009, 01:47:35 PM

Quote from: Bones on October 04, 2009, 01:19:39 PM
Oh boy... Sovereign never looked so bada$$ before now all we need is FC studio model texturing ;)
Cookie time !

What the heck do you think I've been trying to do Bones? Sheesh lol I'm not calling my ship pack the FC pack for nothing y'know

Though I can't wait for this to be released :eek

You have my blessing to smack my head with keyboard I always forget something :roll well it's just me

Darkthorne · « **Reply #44 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:00:54 PM »

I am loving this design, I do hope you include a blank registry map too because I would so love to use this as the texture for the sovereign I use in game (custom ship that I never did release anywhere)

eclipse74569 · « **Reply #45 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:15:54 PM »

Quote from: Bones on October 04, 2009, 05:10:00 PM

Quote from: eclipse74569 on October 04, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: Bones on October 04, 2009, 01:19:39 PM
Oh boy... Sovereign never looked so bada$$ before now all we need is FC studio model texturing ;)
Cookie time !

What the heck do you think I've been trying to do Bones? Sheesh lol I'm not calling my ship pack the FC pack for nothing y'know

Though I can't wait for this to be released :eek

You have my blessing to smack my head with keyboard I always forget something :roll well it's just me

*Gibbs Smack* sorry don't do the keyboard smacking...it's just much better to do it NCIS Style ;)

JB....Cookie

Looking perfect!

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 04, 2009, 10:42:08 PM »

Ehhh...sorry, the coloration difference in the hulls just throws off the whole look. I like what you've got going, but in all honesty, I'd either lighten the secondary hull or darken the saucer to get it to look a bit more uniform...it just looks odd the way it is now. Maybe it'll look better ingame. *shrugs*

Erk · « **Reply #47 on:** October 04, 2009, 11:26:08 PM »

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 04, 2009, 10:42:08 PM

Ehhh...sorry, the coloration difference in the hulls just throws off the whole look. I like what you've got going, but in all honesty, I'd either lighten the secondary hull or darken the saucer to get it to look a bit more uniform...it just looks odd the way it is now. Maybe it'll look better ingame. *shrugs*

actually Jb's got it right. the secondary hull was much darker than the primary hull:
http://www.modelermagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kg_cg-nemesis_1701e_002.jpg

http://www.ussenterprise.co.uk/enterprise/ente/nem/nem123.htm (look at the color difference at the neck)

Jb06 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 05, 2009, 04:58:11 AM »

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 04, 2009, 10:42:08 PM

Ehhh...sorry, the coloration difference in the hulls just throws off the whole look. I like what you've got going, but in all honesty, I'd either lighten the secondary hull or darken the saucer to get it to look a bit more uniform...it just looks odd the way it is now. Maybe it'll look better ingame. *shrugs*

Im not going to change it to your liking when it is already canon, everyone else is pretty damn happy with it. I know it looks abit strange but thats how it's supposed to be. Remember this is a Nemesis retexture, the Sovereign was totally different looking to the previous 2 movies.

~Jb

vonfrank · « **Reply #49 on:** October 05, 2009, 08:58:06 PM »

I know nothing about Retextures (and textures in general) but cant you just take the textures directly from that CGI picture of the Enterprise?

I really dont know what im talking about but can someone tell me why thats not possible

Erk · « **Reply #50 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:48:50 PM »

Quote from: vonfrank on October 05, 2009, 08:58:06 PM

I know nothing about Retextures (and textures in general) but cant you just take the textures directly from that CGI picture of the Enterprise?

I really dont know what im talking about but can someone tell me why thats not possible

well its not that simple. the model is a little different from the cg images. windows and textures wouldnt make up properly. it would probably be more difficult to copy, paste and modify to fit onto the ship.

i know this because.... well i tried it... and failed

Bones · « **Reply #51 on:** October 06, 2009, 02:30:44 AM »

Quote from: Jb06 on October 05, 2009, 04:58:11 AM

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 04, 2009, 10:42:08 PM
Ehhh...sorry, the coloration difference in the hulls just throws off the whole look. I like what you've got going, but in all honesty, I'd either lighten the secondary hull or darken the saucer to get it to look a bit more uniform...it just looks odd the way it is now. Maybe it'll look better ingame. *shrugs*

Im not going to change it to your liking when it is already canon, everyone else is pretty damn happy with it. I know it looks abit strange but thats how it's supposed to be. Remember this is a Nemesis retexture, the Sovereign was totally different looking to the previous 2 movies.

~Jb

JB is right as on CGI shots there are also has few differences in colors, they look strange now as there is no spec-panneling yet (on CGI shots Sov has some additional specular-pannels thus it looks less different)

Jb06 · « **Reply #52 on:** October 06, 2009, 06:03:54 AM »

Quote from: vonfrank on October 05, 2009, 08:58:06 PM

I know nothing about Retextures (and textures in general) but cant you just take the textures directly from that CGI picture of the Enterprise?

I really dont know what im talking about but can someone tell me why thats not possible

And what would be the fun in that?

You don't learn anything by simply copying and pasting. Creating it yourself makes it more worth while knowing you can do it.

~Jb

eclipse74569 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 06, 2009, 11:55:50 AM »

Quote from: Jb06 on October 06, 2009, 06:03:54 AM

Quote from: vonfrank on October 05, 2009, 08:58:06 PM
I know nothing about Retextures (and textures in general) but cant you just take the textures directly from that CGI picture of the Enterprise?

I really dont know what im talking about but can someone tell me why thats not possible

And what would be the fun in that? You don't learn anything by simply copying and pasting. Creating it yourself makes it more worth while knowing you can do it.

~Jb

Which is why I'm doing this for the FC version LOL

. And it's a pain in the butt to get it to contour properly onto the ship :eek

MarkyD · « **Reply #54 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »

Nice work JB looks great.

Dalek · « **Reply #55 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:25:37 AM »

Damn good stuff JB.

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #56 on:** October 07, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

Quote from: Jb06 on October 05, 2009, 04:58:11 AM

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 04, 2009, 10:42:08 PM
Ehhh...sorry, the coloration difference in the hulls just throws off the whole look. I like what you've got going, but in all honesty, I'd either lighten the secondary hull or darken the saucer to get it to look a bit more uniform...it just looks odd the way it is now. Maybe it'll look better ingame. *shrugs*

Im not going to change it to your liking when it is already canon, everyone else is pretty damn happy with it. I know it looks abit strange but thats how it's supposed to be. Remember this is a Nemesis retexture, the Sovereign was totally different looking to the previous 2 movies.

~Jb

Sorry man, I wasn't trying to insult your talents or anything. It is a fantastically well done retexture, and I know it'll probably look better with specs applied. No degradation intended. I still plan on downloading this sucker.

Phaser · « **Reply #57 on:** October 10, 2009, 09:09:56 PM »

Quote from: Erk on October 04, 2009, 11:26:08 PM

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 04, 2009, 10:42:08 PM
Ehhh...sorry, the coloration difference in the hulls just throws off the whole look. I like what you've got going, but in all honesty, I'd either lighten the secondary hull or darken the saucer to get it to look a bit more uniform...it just looks odd the way it is now. Maybe it'll look better ingame. *shrugs*

actually Jb's got it right. the secondary hull was much darker than the primary hull:
http://www.modelermagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kg_cg-nemesis_1701e_002.jpg

http://www.ussenterprise.co.uk/enterprise/ente/nem/nem123.htm (look at the color difference at the neck)

That second shot is a perfect example of the color difference! Nice find.

Jb06 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:45:38 PM »

Ok I've been busy the past week so ive been unable to work on this, but ive able to get a few hours on her today. The azteching is now 100% complete, all there is to do now is add the regs, windows, glows and speculars then the Nemesis Sovereign is complete texture wise

I plan to hp it also which shouldn't take that long to do ;)

Anyways, here's the bottom saucer section. I've redone parts of the bottom saucer since I last updated here.

Enjoy

~Jb

captain_obvious · « **Reply #59 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:53:27 PM »

One step closer!
Huzzah!

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Author Topic: Nemesis Sovereign Retexture - Released (Read 17789 times)