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Offline admiral horton

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #180 on: May 08, 2010, 11:36:13 PM »
more pics on the refit
great job best ambassador ive ever seen :thumbsup:
there are great starship designs and there is crap

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #181 on: May 08, 2010, 11:45:37 PM »
Thanks for the report, neb.

Ship is about 80% the maneuverability of a Galaxy Class.  Phaser arcs are also intentionally somewhat limited to reflect the layout arrays on the ship.  Makes for fun battles though, eh?
  I thought they said it could have flown circles around the Galaxy class in "Yesterday's Enterprise" maybe I need to re-watch it and check.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #182 on: May 09, 2010, 12:41:28 AM »
I thought they said it could have flown circles around the Galaxy class in "Yesterday's Enterprise" maybe I need to re-watch it and check.

I think you're thinking of a line from "Relics" referring to the Jenolan being able to fly circles around the Enterprise at sublight speeds.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #183 on: May 09, 2010, 12:49:22 AM »
Yep.  It's from Relics.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #184 on: May 09, 2010, 01:40:14 AM »
I just rewatched Yesterday's Enterprise, your right.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #185 on: May 09, 2010, 08:11:13 AM »
I don't think we should take Geordi's line in Relics at face value. Any smaller, lighter ship is of course going to be more agile than a Galaxy class starship I think Geordi was trying to make Scotty feel better.

DJ I would make the older version of the ship slower due to the older impulse and thruster designs then make the post Dominon version either the same as your Galaxy or slightly more agile due to the ship being slightly smaller.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #186 on: May 09, 2010, 08:51:53 AM »
Thanks for the report, neb.

Ship is about 80% the maneuverability of a Galaxy Class.  Phaser arcs are also intentionally somewhat limited to reflect the layout arrays on the ship.  Makes for fun battles though, eh?

For give me if i'm wrong, but should it not be fliped? Since the ship is smaller than a galaxy class should it not be like 10 to 20 % faster?
 


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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #187 on: May 09, 2010, 08:53:38 AM »
Thanks for the report, neb.

Ship is about 80% the maneuverability of a Galaxy Class.  Phaser arcs are also intentionally somewhat limited to reflect the layout arrays on the ship.  Makes for fun battles though, eh?

For give me if i'm wrong, but should it not be fliped? Since the ship is smaller than a galaxy class should it not be like 10 to 20 % faster?

also concider thats its a bit older ;)

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #188 on: May 10, 2010, 01:26:46 PM »
I have some old Star Trek the Next Generation fact cards about ships. The one for the Ambassador states, "it was discovered that due to its increased mass over previous ship designs, a compact spacetime driver coil would be needed for the impulse engines in addition to the one used for the warp engines."

I don't know what that means since it's all fabricated tech talk, but it would seem like the Ambassador should be a bit slow since it was such a large ship for its time, much larger than the Excelsior. On the other hand, the Galaxy was known for being very maneuverable for a ship of its size.

Of course, in all the DS9 large space battles, we don't notice much of a difference in speed. All ships seem to move at the relative speed to each other, one of the most notable in my memory is that of the Yamaguchi/Belleraphon/Saratoga task group at the Battle of Wolf 359.


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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #189 on: May 10, 2010, 02:58:52 PM »
notice the shortened port pylon on the Yamaguchi in relation to the starboard...the port nacelle sits lower than the starboard nacelle does...on drex files you can see the studio model and for some reason they shortened one pylon but forgot to shorten the other before they filmed the model for the Wolf 359 battle in 'Emissary'. Crazy how the effects guys can be so lazy... why shorten one pylon if you aren't going to shorten the other LOL

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #190 on: May 10, 2010, 09:39:47 PM »
Remember though, it's not all about canon when you're scripting for a game.  Playability and balance also play a role.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #191 on: May 10, 2010, 11:05:12 PM »
notice the shortened port pylon on the Yamaguchi in relation to the starboard...the port nacelle sits lower than the starboard nacelle does...on drex files you can see the studio model and for some reason they shortened one pylon but forgot to shorten the other before they filmed the model for the Wolf 359 battle in 'Emissary'. Crazy how the effects guys can be so lazy... why shorten one pylon if you aren't going to shorten the other LOL

That was made for the Excalibur but they ran out of time to complete the change. 
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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #192 on: May 10, 2010, 11:41:25 PM »
I definitely agree about balance of gameplay. As we all know, being "cannon" to the story lines isn't exactly cannon in Trek (or Sci-Fi in general) anymore anyway. As long as it is not too far off the mark, and I have fun, it doesn't bother me.

That is why in my opinion BC has stayed so long, all the diversity we get from you guys on this game, cannon and otherwise. :D

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #193 on: May 11, 2010, 11:39:24 AM »
Well, it made PotD. :dance
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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #194 on: May 11, 2010, 03:02:21 PM »
I definitely agree about balance of gameplay. As we all know, being "cannon" to the story lines isn't exactly cannon in Trek (or Sci-Fi in general) anymore anyway. As long as it is not too far off the mark, and I have fun, it doesn't bother me.

That is why in my opinion BC has stayed so long, all the diversity we get from you guys on this game, cannon and otherwise. :D

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #195 on: May 11, 2010, 05:53:07 PM »
canon- what is shown in the show, or endorsed by Paramount
cannon-a weapon employed on the Defiant class warship that fires a short burst of phaser energy
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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #196 on: May 11, 2010, 05:54:35 PM »
Not again with the cannon/canon argument? Easy mistake to make. :P
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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #197 on: May 11, 2010, 07:31:43 PM »
DJ is usually spot on with his HPing so lets wait and see. After all they it can be adjusted to suit your own tastes.

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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #198 on: May 11, 2010, 11:32:29 PM »
Saary Gies. Eye Cant Spel guud,,,,,, :P

   :D   Just kidding guys. Should have known better. Thanks for the correction.

I agree on the HP. Be glad to see some new pics of the refit.


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Re: Ambassador Class
« Reply #199 on: May 12, 2010, 08:00:46 AM »
Nice work there mate, she looks fab.