Hobbs's WIP

[Vortex]

Definitely looks better raised. Really nice work there.

[Kophjaeger]

What an interesting design!

[hobbs]

WOW! looks like you are a totally different modeler!  to me this looks like an ENT - Pre TOS mashup. I would study details off of drexfiles and take inspiration off of the NX-01. then put a TOS spin on it.

thank you andyp
and it was my plan exactly... about a millennia ago when KCS was still doing BC i began work on a tos version of the nx01 it was rubbish lol and was just a mess about during his "kit-bashing" request for a specific set of ships he was doing. since then i have attempted it on a few occasions never got very far though.
and recently i became aware of Doug Drexlers campaign to do a enterprise series 5 with a refit nx01 and it (after messaging him) inspired me to try again.

Definitely looks better raised. Really nice work there.

Since it appears TOS , YES raise them some

thank you. and raised the nacelles will be.

i am thinking of keeping an nx01 type hull texture (doug's reasoning that he envisions the nx as an "iron-clad" ship in comparison to the tos "glazed" hull seems almost logical lol)

[FarShot]

Too many people complain that the NX should've look TOS-ish.  ENT is one hundred years before.  In one hundred years we went from the design of the TOS Connie to the design of the Galaxy.  Schneider's Ex-Astra-Scientia article on the NX needs to take that into account.

But enough of that, looking good Hobbs!

[Vortex]

Not sure whether you've read this or not, but given the look you're going for here, this may have a couple of things you may want to consider for texturing: http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/nx-01-enterprise-class/

[hobbs]

Too many people complain that the NX should've look TOS-ish.  ENT is one hundred years before.  In one hundred years we went from the design of the TOS Connie to the design of the Galaxy.  Schneider's Ex-Astra-Scientia article on the NX needs to take that into account.

But enough of that, looking good Hobbs!

lol my issue has always been that nx01 seems to be the wrong end of the design scale... what i mean is the 1701 to the 1701-E shows a progression (in my opinion) of ship design and tech. the Nx01 would fit the latter part of the design flow not at the beginning. it seems to me like the NX01 needed to be a less streamlined futuristic design.

but as you say "enough of that" lol

and thank you i like my model too

@ vortex: yes i am aware of that and will try to implement some of those elements.

[FarShot]

Parting shot:  ENT is between modern technology and TOS.  Shouldn't a ship designed between those two time periods reflect that?

Modern spacecraft:
-metallic paneling
-tech greebles all over the outside
-rounded portholes
-rocket-like RCS thrusters
-structurally reinforced design

TOS spacecraft:
-round bulbous bussard collectors
-mostly featureless design
-thin, physically unsound design (like pylons)
-ambiguous hull plating

To paint it in another light:  It seems that out of love for tacky '60s design, people insist that because something is older than TOS, it should inherently look older than '60s.  Perhaps the crew of the NX-Ent should have worn Victorian era clothing?  That would be roughly correct for one hundred years before the '60s, wouldn't it?



Red line is current ENT to TOS.  Blue is hypothetical "more primitive" design aesthetic.

[Vortex]

That's the problem with doing prequels so long after the original. If they had gone for a true pre-TOS look, it would have come across really camp. TOS was made in a time before man walked on the moon, where one computer took up large rooms. Ent was made in a time where a digital watch was more sophisticated and mobile phones could do almost anything. To do a show set in the near future with lesser tech wouldn't have kept with the times or made any sense.

I do love Ent, but I think that if they were going to reboot ST as a TV series, then that's when they should have done it.

The NX is a beautiful ship and although people bash it for looking too much like the Akira, it's far better looking. :p

[hobbs]

just so its known.... i like the nx design it just doesnt look like it fits befor a tos ship in MY opinion.

but as this is my thread and this is verging on debate (which im not a fan of) i'll say thats an end to it

this ship as stated was just an experiment and practice of my modeling... im pleased with the results.
its going to be adjusted some more then i'll texture her.

and may i say thank you all for the encouraging comments.... feels a farcry from the recent past.

[FarShot]

There are subtle differences between a good natured debate and an argument.  Usually disrespect, and there's none of that here.

Regarding your model work, yes it's significantly better than before.  Part of that is knowing when things should be modeled in and when they should be done in a good texture.

Do you have Skype, MSN/WLM, Facebook, anything like that?

[hobbs]

i have skype and facebook

theonetrueking for skype

 agree about the debate vs argument i just dont like debate lol mostly i have found debate to annoy me because i have an opinion and the other has an opinion but as far as they are concerned im the one who is wrong... i accept anothers opinion but rare to find someone to accept mine lol

thank you for the kind words about my modelling

[hobbs]

here is an update of my Hnx01



''Reed'' alert

[Phoenix Bondi]

here is an update of my Hnx01



''Reed'' alert

not looking bad fella, just change the name if i was you

[hobbs]

thanks

tell me all.... what name should i give this ship?

[moed]

Looking good Hobbs!

I think U.S.S. Ranger has a nice ring to it.

[King Class Scout]

snrk* i gotta do it...

USS Calvin!

[hobbs]

thanks moed really proud of the model so far but... im trying not to think about the textures lol

Kcs: hmm maybe....

[moed]

thanks moed really proud of the model so far but... im trying not to think about the textures lol

Kcs: hmm maybe....

I wasn't referring to the textures.

I was talking about the actual name; as in Ranger Class, U.S.S. Ranger.

[starship]

Maybe, a name never used before:

USS Steadfast ;)

[King Class Scout]

couple other suggestions I made included USS Merlin (both the wizard and the bird of prey) and USS Somerset.