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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #660 on: December 08, 2013, 01:14:24 PM »
Texturing looks fine to me. Thou the pylons look a wee bit on the flimsy side. Understandable if it's far too late in the game to widen them :)

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #661 on: December 08, 2013, 04:53:42 PM »
Proportions seems to be right to me, might be my strange point of veiw tho :P

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #662 on: December 08, 2013, 06:10:46 PM »
lol i dont see it myself... to me the pylons (going from main hull to front of nacelle) are way more substantial than most starships. I always thought the ones we see in the shows are a bit thin mine are thicker.

but they will stay as they are.... there is always the future version that can be redesigned.

hmm just so you all know this ship is probably late 2380's to late 2390's but based upon the NX Survey (prototype forerunner to the Sovereign Class)

and thank you Darkthunder and Bones... i really struggle with textures so its noce to hear nice things about my current attempt. :D
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #663 on: December 09, 2013, 01:01:03 PM »
It's not the thickness of the pylons (that looks fine to me). But rather it's relative narrowness. Ofcourse, there's been ships both in canon, and non-canon that looked way flimsier :P
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #664 on: December 09, 2013, 03:11:06 PM »
It's not the thickness of the pylons (that looks fine to me). But rather it's relative narrowness. Ofcourse, there's been ships both in canon, and non-canon that looked way flimsier :P

Indeed, just take a look at the very foundation of Trek ships :P TOS Constitution and it's pylons are really thin, not to mention the neck :P

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #665 on: December 11, 2013, 05:59:05 PM »
an in game shot as i was trying to do some glows

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #666 on: December 11, 2013, 07:35:55 PM »
Looking pretty good!

I would add a few subtle details on the nacelles and nacelle struts to polish it off.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #667 on: December 11, 2013, 08:23:09 PM »
Ok, panelling looks good to me, now you may want to take a look at Sovereign class nacelles, there's plenty of small details you could borrow from it like vents on the sides (right behind bussard colectors) also you could add some windows, only few, to secondary hull.

btw. could you show us ventral side ?

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #668 on: December 12, 2013, 01:49:06 AM »
Ventral stde is yet bestarted but willl begin on weekend .
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #669 on: December 15, 2013, 03:09:41 PM »
an update...
here is a look at my newest window glows (which i think i am happy with)


a look at the the ship from the side


and the star of the ventral textures
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #670 on: January 12, 2014, 03:03:04 PM »
Presenting USS SURVEY NCC 73664-A

finally i think i have done :D
any beta testers who want to give her a test please let me know :)



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USS Survey
NCC-73664-A


This ship was designed along the same lines as the Survey Class that was to supersede the Galaxy Class as Starfleet?s foremost exploration vessel.
That Class of ship was overlooked in favour of the Sovereign Class, this new USS Survey takes its name but has only a few of its original designs. One main difference is the size of this ship, it is much smaller than the Survey, Sovereign or Galaxy Classes as Starfleet looked for smaller ships to quickly fill the fleet after the recent troubles.

The USS Survey-A has the following design innovations:

ADVANCED SENSORS: The ship has the same advanced sensor capabilities as the recently returned USS Voyager and can scan for 50000 ly. This is an improvement on the original Survey?s impressive sensor capability.

AFT CONFIGURABLE POD: The aft section of the ship can be detached and refitted with different tech much like the aged Oberth Class? secondary hull. At present the Survey-A is equipped with the TRANSWARP core a unique core that provides Transwarp speeds though with a reduced power output than the previous Standard Core?s in use in current Starships.

360DEGREE PHASER ARRAY: as with its predecessor the Survey-A uses the 360 degree vertical phaser array.

TRANSWARP CORE: This was developed by the famous Captian Scott, it incorporates his own theory on subspace layers which Voyager verified during its mission in the Delta Quadrant. The Transwarp Core provides limited power output but high Main Battery storage within the core itself and also allows a deeper Subspace field to form allowing a ship to slip into the Transwarp layer of Subspace. Various other factors are needed such as the enhanced sensors provided by Voyagers return.
The Transwarp speed is 9.8 times faster than normal warp speeds ie: warp 1 = warp 9.8 when in transwarp.


The Survey-A is about the same size as the Intrepid Class though it has less decks.
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #671 on: January 12, 2014, 03:24:38 PM »
Nice, but two things i wound change:

The ventral registry is  wrong placed. Should be bouth in de middle
The bridge needs more color. Some plating. It is too plain... Same goes for the pylons vental side.

Please notice, these are just my opinions. If you want, i can do beta...

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #672 on: January 12, 2014, 06:45:07 PM »
yep i know i need to move the ventral reg and name lol i need to tweak the ventral and nacelle textures i know but i got to the point today of "AHHHHH!!" in regards to the textures so finished prematurely lol. i also dont have any spec maps due to not being able to get them working on this ship.
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #673 on: January 13, 2014, 07:53:05 AM »
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ADVANCED SENSORS: The ship [...] can scan for 50000 ly.
:serious: I think there is a zero too much.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #674 on: January 13, 2014, 08:38:13 AM »
:serious: I think there is a zero too much.

voyagers astrometric sensors are able to scan for 50000 ly thats the system im on about lol i know its voyager technobabble but i like it lol

course i could be wrong
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #675 on: January 13, 2014, 09:56:01 AM »
Was that before or after the Borg enhancements?

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #676 on: January 13, 2014, 11:01:07 AM »
Most likely, after. Since it was Seven's/Harry's new and improved Astrometrics Lab that was capable of scanning upto 50'000 lightyears. I doubt it was capable of scanning every single object within those lightyears, but still :P
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #677 on: January 13, 2014, 11:38:43 AM »
I didn't want to sound to harsh or anything (sorry if i did), it is just that actively scanning something half a galaxy away seems to be way above the capabilities of anything in star trek (and all other somewhat scientific/hard sci-fi).

AFAIK they usually had problems finding stuff 7 ly. away.

If on the other hand you mean something like a passive, long exposure detection capability to find planets and the like i'm fine with it.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #678 on: January 13, 2014, 12:54:53 PM »
Here's the exact quote re: Voyager's Astrometrics Lab...

From Year of Hell, part 1:
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Janeway: "Now, how the hell does it work?"
Seven: "Astrometric sensors measure the radiative flux of up to 3 billion stars simultaneously. The computer then calculates our position relative to the center of the galaxy."

Not sure where the "50'000 lightyears" quote comes from, as I can find no additional info on Memory Alpha, and the specifics of Voyager's Astrometrics Lab wasn't mentioned much (if at all) following it's introduction. Granted, Seven's quote of "our position relative to the center of the galaxy" could be mistaken for the 50'000 lightyears part. As far as I know, Voyager isn't able to scan that great of a distance using active sensors. If it did, then everyone within 50'000 lightyears would know that they are being scanned by Voyager.
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #679 on: January 13, 2014, 01:04:46 PM »
you didnt sound harsh lol.
but yes its after the borg enhancements and i would guess it is a passive scan with some sort of predictive algorithm (it is voyager afterall lol)
i need to watch the episode again now, but i think its an anoying one where seven is going nuts.
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