Regal Class

[Dalek]

Oh dear, that is one sneaky optical illusion...my bad. I was looking at the shadows produced by the bevels.

[TheConstable6]

you could add some curves to the pylon, make the nacelles sleeker and more narrow. maybe even move them out & up, to make it less of a Intrepid resemblance.

this may just be me ( ) but try as I might I just see Intrepid all the way.

[Locke]

Yeah, had to change the name again.  Majestic was already in use over at BC Files, and I just don't like having a ship named the same as another.  It creates confusions when you say "Oh, have you tried out the Majestic?" and the person says "Yeah, I like the really upgraded Excelsior feel it has." and you say "What?".  Or something like that.  Anyway, I wanted a unique name.  Regal, for now.

How about this, Patrickarace?  These are size comparisons.  The ship is meant to have a common ancestry with the ships of the era (Intrepid, Sovereign, Nova) but be a standalone ship.  I didn't want any kitbashing, and the model itself will have a couple of nifties that haven't been used by many people, and at least one that I don't think I've ever seen on a BC ship.

I really like the nacelles where they are, as they are high enough behind the saucer to get good clearance, but don't stick out overly much.  Of course, I make these things for other people to fly around, so I'll take your suggestion "under advisement" ;).

[TheConstable6]

Thanks. The side-by-sides cleared it up. I'm starting to like it more and more. The bold curves on the dorsal front of the engineering hull (transitioning from the saucer) are $$$.

 

As a side-note, will this be a ship-of-the-line or a cruiser? Based on those size comparisons I'm thinking it's gonna pack some punch, but just how much?

As a second side-note, Regal is a wonderful name for a graceful ship   

[Locke]

Well actually, she's probably not gonna have a high amount of armor or weaponry.  I intended this to be more of a diplomatic cruiser (see my first posts) and as such, she only needs some moderate weaponry.  Of course, diplomacy and BC are oil and water  but perhaps she could go well at a later date in ST: Excalibur.  I hear they intend to have some alternate functions like diplomatic duty and such.

[TheConstable6]

Makes sense, is that also the reason for the smaller & more integrated engineering hull?

However....

Why must you mention Excalibur?????? The pain, the waiting, the pain 

[Locke]

Makes sense, is that also the reason for the smaller & more integrated engineering hull?

More room in the primary hull = larger ambassadorial suites.  In fact, the rear half of the bridge section is actually a state dining room with full facilities.  I'll model that in, I think.  Large windows and a bright interior should show it off nicely.  There are also going to be several corridor settings around the saucer, just as on the Intrepid.  Although these will feature more stately scenes.  Ones that befit a luxurious ship capable of interstellar negotiations.

[Darkthunder]

Would it be possible to post a proper topdown view of the Intrepid and Regal classes side by side?

Currently, i'd estimate the Regal to be around 2.5-3 times larger than an Intrepid, would that be a fair assessment? If so, that would make this ship around 850-1000 meters in length, making it easily the largest Starfleet vessel of the era. I think the size would only be rivaled by the Excalibur.

[Locke]

Would it be possible to post a proper topdown view of the Intrepid and Regal classes side by side?

Currently, i'd estimate the Regal to be around 2.5-3 times larger than an Intrepid, would that be a fair assessment? If so, that would make this ship around 850-1000 meters in length, making it easily the largest Starfleet vessel of the era. I think the size would only be rivaled by the Excalibur.

Only off in your estimate by a bit: 834.897 meters.  About 2/3 the size of Excalibur, and just about 150 meters longer than the Sovereign.  A very large ship for a very large purpose.  I wasn't kidding when I was talking about traveling in luxury.  I'll work up a rough deck list in the next few days, once I get the main mesh finalized.  Probably something like four or five lounges.  Wide, spacious corridors, with plenty of windows.  Almost like walking the outer walkway on the top deck of the Promenade on DS9.  Apartments instead of quarters.  Something you can actually live in.  Perhaps a semi-permanent group of ambassadors aboard for traveling to other worlds and making negotiations.  Kind of like a mobile Babylon 5 or something.

[Psyco Diver]

Only off in your estimate by a bit: 834.897 meters.  About 2/3 the size of Excalibur, and just about 150 meters longer than the Sovereign.  A very large ship for a very large purpose.  I wasn't kidding when I was talking about traveling in luxury.  I'll work up a rough deck list in the next few days, once I get the main mesh finalized.  Probably something like four or five lounges.  Wide, spacious corridors, with plenty of windows.  Almost like walking the outer walkway on the top deck of the Promenade on DS9.  Apartments instead of quarters.  Something you can actually live in.  Perhaps a semi-permanent group of ambassadors aboard for traveling to other worlds and making negotiations.  Kind of like a mobile Babylon 5 or something.

I like the concept, a starfleet vessel that isn't meant for exploring or righting, but the diplomacy aspect. Cool, I'm guessing limited weapons and shields, if it has to go into hostile areas to discuss truces I would figure it would used escorts then. Taking over from what the Galaxy class main job was other than exploring

[Locke]

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking.  Although there will be heavier shielding, because you never know when negotiations can go awry.  I'm thinking that I'll include a normal complement of quantum torpedoes, as well as a select number of "ship-killer" projectiles (6-10?), much like the nuke that came with the ID4 set, in three launchers (2 fore, 1 aft).  Phasers will be normal, but much like the ones on the Sentinel.  But the styling of the weapons will be subdued, so to keep the diplomatic aspect intact.

[Psyco Diver]

Not very diplomatic carrying "ship killers" lol "Sign the treaty or else" Personally I would like to see basic phaser coverage with type XII burst type phasers carrying a limited amount of torpedos like 50 quantoms and 100 photons. Heavy shields make sense cause I would imagine the hull is weaker than normal considering all the windows you suggested and open interior.

[TheConstable6]

I on the other hand like ship killers

 

[Biggins]

I'm with psycho driver, the weaker hull makes sense. you could always come up with a ship (or shuttle) that goes with it as an escort craft

[Locke]

I'm with psycho driver, the weaker hull makes sense. you could always come up with a ship (or shuttle) that goes with it as an escort craft

Hmmm . . . wasn't there a ship that was released recently that could serve that purpose perfectly?

Oh, yeah! ;)

That is kinda what I was thinking of when I started making this ship a diplomatic cruiser.  I dropped the Sentinel into the scene to see how large the thing actually was and it just went from there.

I'm probably gonna keep the ship-buster types, since a cruiser of this size will need a last-ditch weapon to help itself out.  They won't move, corner or target quickly, so smaller ships (like BoPs and the like) won't even have to dodge them, really.  It's more to guard against capital ships.

I created an atrium-type area at the front.  It would be used for parties and the like, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna keep it.  Seems to make the ship look a little angry.  Not something you want to invoke when trying to initiate peace or trade agreements.

[Biggins]

I like it! But have you thought of anywhere else to place it? on the secondary of the secondary hull like the connie refit for example?

[Locke]

Well, I was thinking of other spots, but the only other one that comes to mind is on the "neck" where the primary joins the secondary.  The underbelly of the secondary hull just wouldn't work, since engineering is gonna be there as well as the cargobays.  And you don't want ambassadors or heads of state having to walk past your broom closet and water heater every time they want to get a good view of space.

The Atrium functions as Ten Forward, the Promenade and Quark's all in one.  I'm gonna add some low-poly trees and plants in there as well as some "kiosks" on the walls (textures only).

I've also added a large table and chairs, along with a bar , into the reception area just behind the bridge.

[Captain_D]

Love the look of the deflector/hull now, fits the design nicely IMHO. The reception area looks great.

 The "horseshoe" should maybe be tapered or smoothed into the hull more. looks too harsh. The Atrium might would work on that section.

The middle of it would make a nice place for a yacht, fighter, or a sensor dome. Sure you got something planned there.

The engines look great design wise. All I think they need is to be taken in vertically about 25 to 30 percent or thicken the pylons. That's my two cents anyway.  

Keep those pics comming, great work so far

[Darkthunder]

Love the look of the deflector/hull now, fits the design nicely IMHO.

 The "horseshoe" should maybe be tapered or smoothed into the hull more. looks too harsh. The Atrium might would work on that section.

The middle of it would make a nice place for a yacht, fighter, or a sensor dome. Sure you got something planned there.

The engines look great design wise. All I think they need is to be taken in vertically about 25 to 30 percent or thicken the pylons. That's my two cents anyway. 

Keep those pics comming, great work so far

Definitely thicken the pylons. Those things look like they would be ready to snap at a moments notice.

[deadthunder2_0]

the sentinel would go great under the saucer