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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #120 on: September 18, 2010, 01:55:00 PM »
Do you plan on doing any Museum Klingon or Romulan ships? The Feds need something to shoot at.  :evil:

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #121 on: September 18, 2010, 03:18:59 PM »
I think most of those have already been done, but I'd welcome new versions of them

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #122 on: September 18, 2010, 04:27:49 PM »
I think Zambie Zan did a pack of Starfleet Museum Romulan Ships, and maybe did a TMP version of the D4, but that's about all I recall. It would be nice to see D2 to D6 done in the TOS era. 

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #123 on: September 18, 2010, 04:43:53 PM »
There are 2 separate ship packs of museum era ships in it's own sub category on the main site.  Seeing G's take on them though would be interesting to see. 
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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #124 on: September 18, 2010, 05:21:13 PM »
I don't recall there being one for the Klingons. I know there's also a Romulan War ship pack featuring Dark Drone's models. 

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #125 on: September 18, 2010, 05:35:27 PM »
I don't recall there being one for the Klingons. I know there's also a Romulan War ship pack featuring Dark Drone's models. 

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Klingon_DPack;40411

That has everything from the D-2 to Q'Onos 1 in it.  TCMP has hardpoint updates for the pack as well.
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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #126 on: September 18, 2010, 06:42:57 PM »
Those D-pack ships aren't from the Starfleet Museum, though it's a good mod. I'm refering to these ships.

http://www.starfleet-museum.org/klingon1.htm

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #128 on: September 18, 2010, 10:52:23 PM »
Actually, I am planning on doing the Museum Klingon ships.  The Feds do need something to shoot at.

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #129 on: September 18, 2010, 11:11:45 PM »
Indeed!

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #130 on: September 19, 2010, 06:15:31 AM »
I'm actually looking forward to seeing the Avenger:

http://www.starfleet-museum.org/avenger.jpg
 


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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #131 on: September 20, 2010, 05:36:38 PM »
Texture wip on the Siegfried.


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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #132 on: September 20, 2010, 07:14:01 PM »
damn....you know if you need a beta tester just let me know I'd LOVE to take these girls out for a spin!
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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2010, 03:54:55 AM »
First I'd like to say, your doing marvelous work on Masao's ships, the Siegfried looks great. However, going back through the thread I noticed that the pylons on several of the ships are not accurate to the schematics.  The Quetzalcoatl shouldn't have any grates on the the top sides of the pylons.  The Dragon shouldn't have any grates on the forward pylons.  The Valley Forge should have one continuous grate on the pylons.  And the Siegfried should also have a single continuous grate.

Aside from those details, your models are nearly perfect depictions of these ships, and I'm really looking forward to them.  I understand of course, if you don't wish to take the time to fix these admittedly minor features, but I thought I would point it out in case it was your intention to make them as accurate as possible.

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2010, 09:24:28 AM »
Shion,  thanks for your appreciation of the Starfleet Museum models and I crongratulate you on your attenion to detail.  Indeed my intention is to reproduce these models as closley as possible to the dipicted schemetics on Masao's site.  

You caught the one area that I allowed myself to deviate as I thought it made the models look a bit better by adding some detail.  I do not think that correcting these would be to big of an effort.  I would like to ask the BCC community on their opinion on wether to leave them as is, with the added grates on the pylons, or remove them so they are more accurate with the schematics?

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #135 on: September 21, 2010, 10:15:10 AM »
I would keep them as they are. That's called artist's freedom.

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2010, 10:38:20 AM »
I like 'em with the grills on.  They don't take away from the original designs and add a bit of continuity to the overall design lineage.
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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2010, 12:10:12 PM »
perhaps a middle ground, leave them on but make them less pronounced, give them a dark specularity so they pop out in the right light.

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #138 on: September 22, 2010, 06:41:12 AM »
I'm certainly glad that my post wasn't taken in a negative light, or construed as being nit picky.  I must admit I felt a bit of trepidation posting that, as I've seen some backlash against criticism here recently.  So I thank you for seeing my intent.

My view on it, is that these are absolutely wonderful, accurate representations of the Masao's Museum fleet.  Thus since you are striving for accuracy and are nearly as close as any reproduction can be, I see it as a shame not to go all the way.

Though I will say that either way you decide to go, I'm definitely downloading these and I'm sure they will become favorites of mine.  Also, Thanks for modeling all of these TOS ships and making them available to us. It's an under appreciated era, and I'm glad someones filling it out with such quality and attention to detail.

addendum:  While I feel that that while extra detail can be nice at times, grates are indeed present on quite a few of the museum ships, while absent on others.  To me that implies that those traits are intentional by the author, and the grates or lack there of are a feature of the ships design.

sub addendum:  Only 2 of the ships currently made should have no grates, the latter 2 simply have a continuous grate instead of a split one, so no details are actually lost.

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Re: Starfleet Museum WIP - Siegfried Dreadnought
« Reply #139 on: September 22, 2010, 09:14:29 AM »
Shion,  You most definitely make a compelling argument.  Thanks for your pledge to download when the ships are ready.  Would you possibly be agreeable to Beta test?