THANK YOU! I have TOS Bridge, Ship, Uniforms and sounds thanks to you modders!

[darrincates]

I started playing the original game and got to Picard in my face 1st scene and said 'nope, ... uh-uh, .... there must be a TOS mod ... '

Three days later ... after learing about scripts and .py's and Foundations and BCUT and walkfx, ... and last was the extra step-by-step instructions for the 'TOS Total Uniform Conversion Mod' for the TOS Bridge Pack to work, and it's workin' GREAT!

16xAA 16xAN 8xMulti, 1600 (I wish I could go native 1920) X 1200 .. all cranked smooth, smooth for Quick battle .... Super Fun, but ...

I try 'Single Player Customizer v0.1' , layed the files, changed the ship name in 'MaelstromUserConfig.py' from 'Galaxy' to 'EndeavorTOS' and my saved game of Picard in my face is the same default bridge and charaters and uni's and sounds, and I can't create a new game anymore, it craps out.   

I really, really want to play 1st time completly TOS all around, even if it doesn't make perfect sence.  I'm hardcore TOS only ... I did the same thing to Elite Forces using

http://spacestationk7.autom8on.net/

Anyone willing to help me out a bit if this is possible? - Thanks! - Darrin

[Nebula]

Why hello there I'd like to be the first to say welcome to the forums and I hope you have a great time here.

now on to your question...

basically modding BC Kills Single Player... that's an almost unavoidable fact. You can't change bridges in SP because all the character movements are for the stock bridges and if that is screwed... well I think you get the picture. Also some ships have weapons that must be available in SP in order for the missions to work. 

Now about the saves... heh... once you mod the game even slightly the old saves won't work.

[darrincates]

Thanks! - for the welcome and reminder of the AI's paths! ... doh .... after posting I realized I must be a TOS purist ... not happy without of the box .... and SO glad to find what I have ... I just got my ass kicked by the Doomesday Machine, hard ... and it was awesome ... I was scared of it when I was 6 and watched that episode! . . . I see where all the sounds are and was thinking about taking the time to replace with TOS audio cuts from episodes to match .... almost worth it ...  Thanks again, off to find those stars and planets mods I saw last night! - D

[King Class Scout]

I have a reccomendation:clean out the entirety of GMunoz's library of downloads.  also, keep an eye on the place, he's in the middle of a pre TOS goodie pack as well.

[darrincates]

clean out the entirety of GMunoz's library of downloads. 

Hey KCS, I'm sorry, I don't take your meaning ... clean out meaning go find a download mods that GMunoz has contributed? - what's in this library?

I just found a great link that probably everybody all ready knows about, but it has a TON of TOS .au files ready to go .... http://services.tos.net/sounds/sound.html  which is under this great source: http://services.tos.net/services/services.html

My stars are MUCH better now ... and I sucked it up and am going through the single player without my dream of a TOS makeover for it ... 4th level .... pretty fun, but I would love a whole TOS simulator, something that would tie Bridge Commander (all 'TOS' modded out) with Elite Forces all 'TOS' modded out, so one could go from commanding the enterprise as Kirk, to beaming down to a first person episode based level like what these guys did: http://spacestationk7.autom8on.net    maybe someday ....

[Nebula]

clean out meaning go find a download mods that GMunoz has contributed?

Yes that's what he meant.. ;) GMunoz has done QUITE a lot of tos stuff. (I'd also check out Phaser's TOS Pack)

Now...

What U suggested has been attempted before (the beam down to planet stuff) but it's a bit to complex and clunky for BC's hardcoded engine.

However you really need to check out all the Quick Battle mods... especially Nano FX 2.0b and Galaxy Charts. (both need to be disabled to play SP however)

[darrincates]

Thanks Nebula  ... I'll check those out ... I have 3 BC's ...  a fresh clean, a TOS modded, and one for default SP.

I have both NanoFX Beta (2.0), and Galaxy Charts (2.0) DL'ed now, but I'm nervous about messing up the awesomeness of what I have now  ...

Galaxy Charts looks really kewl ...  Will it work with the TOS stuff I have installed? -  or is it just for the default BC? .... I see in read me "Installation Notes - This mod is pretty much a stand-alone mod, so it can be installed directly on Bridge Commander, or on top Galaxy Charts v1.0."

Does that mean I should copy my clean install BC and run that mod all by itself, or can it integrate with other TOS mod BC I have?

 If so, I'll give it a try ..... I'll wait for your reply before choosing which folder to install too: the TOS modded, or the default SP ..... so many mods n scripts ...

I have the Nano 2.0 dl'ed too,  but not sure if that'll mess anything up either .... there's a button in BCUT about fixing a NANO FX Atmosphere?  Do you think it would work for my TOS modded BC? or is it also the stock BC?
 - Thanks for helping a noob get his legs under him! - Darrin

[Nebula]

It will install fine on your modded install and will not mess with your ships.

no mods will work without foundation for one thing XD
Also that fix needs to be installed after nano fx

Install order should be this BC, BC 1.1 patch, Foundation, Nano FX, Galaxy Charts. (OH before you install GC I'd get UMM http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Unified_Main_Menu;56343 )

I hope I'm not overloading you lol

[darrincates]

It will install fine on your modded install and will not mess with your ships.

glad to hear it! and not overloaded at all, ... yet ... I have foundation and BCUT and UMM installed.  I'll go for it ... in that order!

I was wondering if you might know about this Kobayashi Maru I see a lot about, but there are so many references to it at a search, it's hard to tell where to get the latest full iso!

I have the 909 mg file "KM_Beta_2010.02_FULL.rar" dl'ed all ready ...

Would that get a lot of what I'm looking for covered in one swipe?

Would it enhance up my TOS purist thing going on? or mess up scripts ..

 I'm also trying to enhance the planets (HQ Planets and asteroids 1.2 update )and all those files to DL and put in place .. it's a lot of work to get all this stuff set up! - I see all these mods and i'm like a kid in a candy store! - thanks 4 the help! - Darrin

[Nebula]

*hint* look at my user title *hint* ;)

KM will have everything you want though it is a DS9+ era mod so you will have to install all the TOS stuff to it.
For install order on KM it's BC, BC 1.1 patch, KM 2009.12, KM 2010.02, then what ever ships and textures ya want.

[darrincates]

ok .. right on ... I should have noticed ... I just have the 909mg KM_Beta_2010.02_FULL.rar ... I'm DL'ing 'KM2009.12.rar' now ...     I did gravity [manual], before I do Galaxy Charts .... 

I have a 200 meg hqplanetsandasteroids1.2.zip I'm trying to get going too ... ... does KM all ready have HD planets too?

[Nebula]

Yeah you just add the TOS elements and Gravity is already part of KM ;)

[darrincates]

wow, ok, sounds like I should have started with KM in the first place ... doh!

For install order on KM it's BC, BC 1.1 patch, KM 2009.12, KM 2010.02, then what ever ships and textures ya want.

ok, I looked at your main KM wiki, you sold me, I'm going to do this in the order you said now

I see in Galaxy Charts  v2.0 readme: "install this mod AFTER installing:
- GravityFX
- CWS2
- Distress Signal (or the KM mod)
OR, if you're also use the mod-pack Kobayashi Maru 1.0, just install this after installing it."

I don't know what CWS2 is short for ... but I guess KM takes care of that.


I see in the KM read me SOL MULTISYSTEM included ... nice ...

I see in the HQplanets readme that KM is required .... so many mods need so many other mods ...

than install all my TOS stuff last right? ... probably doing it right now .... sounds awesome! - DC

For a KM / TOS mod I should do this in this order?

BC
BC 1.1 patch
KM 2009.12
KM 2010.02
hq_planets_and_asteroids_by_vladko1.zip
hq_planets_and_asteroid_v1_and_new_tractor_beam.zip
hqplanetsandasteroids1.2.zip
earth_high_quality_v1.0.zip
galaxycharts_v2.rar
TOS.exe (TOS Bridges
connie_pack.rar
lints_constitution.rar
walkfx002.zip
tos12_tucv1point1.rar (TOS uniforms)
doomsdaymachine.rar
tos_chandley.zip

Thanks! - again! - Darrin

[darrincates]

I:
un installed BC
Cleaned registry
deleted BC folder
re-installed BC to default location
patched
BCUT
Foundation (with BCUT)
NanoFX 2.0 beta (with BCUT)
Nano Atmosphere fix (button in BCUT)
Unified Main Menu (UMM) (with BCUT)
Bridge Plugin  (with BCUT)
KM 2009.12  (manually)
KM 2010.02  (manually)
hq_planets_and_asteroids_by_vladko1.zip (manually)
hq_planets_and_asteroid_v1_and_new_tractor_beam.zip (manually)
hqplanetsandasteroids1.2.zip (manually)
earth_high_quality_v1.0.zip (manually)
galaxycharts_v2.rar (manually)
TOS.exe 
connie_pack.rar  (manually)
lints_constitution.rar  (manually)
walkfx002.zip  (manually)
tos12_tucv1point1.rar (TOS uniforms)  (manually)
Then did these steps as recommended by tos_12_tucv1point1.rar:
"1/ go into your "Bridge Commander\scripts\Bridge\Characters" folder and delete the files from it which are prefixed with "TOS" and "TOS2" (example TOSBrex.py, TOS2Brex.py). Please note, it is important to delete both the .py files AND the .pyc files as well.

2/ go into your "Bridge Commander\scripts\Custom\Autoload" folder and delete the two follow files from it; "TOS Crew.py" and "TOSMod2 Crew.py" - again you will need to delete the .py and .pyc versions of these files as well.

3/ reinstall the 3rd Era TOS Bridge Pack, following all on screen instructions for that.

4/ drag and drop the files/folders from the "Fix for previous installs" folder into your Bridge Commander root directory only."

then doomsdaymachine.rar  (manually) and tos_chandley.zip (manually)

and it didn't work ... I get a black screen with a kewl looking gold/purple cursor ... so:

repeated the process above on using BCUT to install everything ...same deal ... glad I made a copy of my BC dir first, at least I still have all the TOS stuff still working ....

Any idea how I can get all this to work?  Is it my order of operation? -

Is it crazy to try and mix:
KM
TOS ships
TOS Bridges and sounds
High Res Planets
Galaxy charts
and the WalkFX

all into one BC that will all work together?

i.e: All I'm really after is total TOS make over in Highres solor sytems, that work in/with Galaxy Charts and be able to walk around the bridge? -

 ANy help or order of operation for success would be greatly appreciated by this guy .... I feel like I just wasted 6 hours .... Thanks! - Darrin

[Nebula]

DO NOT INSTALL GC 2.0 OR WALK FX OVER KM 2009.12 and 2010.02 IT ALREADY HAS THOSE!! (you will cause the error you are encountering)

The only mod's KM is lacking are the latest versions of DS9 FX and your TOS stuff... every other major mod should already be in the pack.
That's KM's install order is so small, Even foundation is already part of it.

[darrincates]

DO NOT INSTALL GC 2.0 OR WALK FX OVER KM 2009.12 and 2010.02 IT ALREADY HAS THOSE!! ... Even foundation is already part of it.

It has all those too? - Walk? Galaxy?  Man, I guess a newbie walking in for the first time gets the wrong impression about all these MODS .... I'll probably get it right later tonight!

[086gf]

Yeah, there is a KM wiki that lists all currently included mods and stuff as well as what works well with KM.

[darrincates]

Yeah, there is a KM wiki that lists all currently included mods and stuff as well as what works well with KM.

Yeah, I kinda started at a backdoor so to speak ( bridgecommander.filefront.com ), saw all the mods, wanted ALL of them without knowing that KM was the place to start ..... I'm starting over right now ....

What about the UMM, Bridge Core plugin , Nano fix?

Do I need the high res planets or is that in there too?  

I see Wolf has another post like mine .... asking about transporting 2 another ship then

KM has all that. ;)

 I was dying in enterprise and was wondering if I could get to the bridge of a friendly!"

I get the feeling KM is like the spagetti sauce 'It's ALL in there  ... "

[darrincates]

I did BC, patch, KM1 and KM2 (manual) and that first opening KM movie is just awesome to watch! -
I got in there, checked it out, saw all the new menus, set resolution, closed program (figured I had that going, time to install TOS stuff).

Then installed TOS.exe bridge, connie pack manually,  lints_constitution manually, doomsdaymachine manually, tos_chandley manually, tos12_tucv1point1.rar (TOS uniforms) manually, then removed a few TOS files and re-installed TOS.exe bridges as advised by uniform pack readme and wham, black screen and cursor .... BCUT had no role in this installation and since I had KM running, I figured I didn't need anything from it (not even the Nano FX atmosphere fix) so I just added the TOS stuff and no go ....

After it didn't work I tried extracting the two big KM files on top but no luck ...  now I'll uninstall, clean reg, re-install, patch, KM1, KM2 , (copy the whole BC folder to avoid those steps again) then I'll go one at a time till I figure out which one is messing things up .... more in an hour ....

[Nebula]

KM 1 and KM2? you mean 2009.12 and 2010.02? right?

Also 99.99% of BSODYC errors can be fixed without having to reinstall... you just need to hit the ~ (to access the console) then hint enter take a screen shot paste it in paint save it as a jpeg and post it here for us to help ya out ;)