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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2011, 01:47:23 PM »
nothing happened

is it all one mesh? or is it in pieces
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2011, 02:15:27 PM »
All one mesh, I unified everything before exporting from sketchup. I also made sure everything was selected before and after the smoothing attempt
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2011, 02:32:37 PM »
Try removing the smoothing.  Use the editable mesh modifier, select every polygon on the vessel, go down towards the bottom where the smooth group selections are, and hit "Clear All".  See what happens.  Careful not to delete the mesh by accident.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2011, 02:38:39 PM »
Try removing the smoothing.  Use the editable mesh modifier, select every polygon on the vessel, go down towards the bottom where the smooth group selections are, and hit "Clear All".  See what happens.  Careful not to delete the mesh by accident.

still nothing, there isn't any smoothing to begin with
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2011, 02:40:21 PM »
Looks like you might have two meshes by accident.  Hide (do not delete) one of them and see what happens.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2011, 02:42:23 PM »
You have parts of the ship with inverted faces, just select and flip them back.
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2011, 02:48:42 PM »
You have parts of the ship with inverted faces, just select and flip them back.

Good point.  In that case, there should be a Display tab on the right-side sidebar.  Select any mesh, and hit "Backface Cull".  Now all of the polygons that are facing the wrong way should disappear.  You'll know which ones are facing the wrong way, but you may have to turn backface culling off before you start flipping them just to make it easier.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2011, 03:08:35 PM »
That made all of the errors on the deflector disappear, but the nacceles are still screwed. So I right-click and use "flip normals mode" right?


Also, if im reading everything right, there is only one mesh
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2011, 03:23:13 PM »
Yes, click on "Flip Normal Mode" and click on the polygons you want to flip.  That should correct the remaining problems.

EDIT:

Here are a cople of preview shots of a sphere with flipped polygons.  One is with backface culling off, the other is with backface culling on.  It is easier to see what polygons are flipped with backface cullng on as the flipped polygons are not rendered when facing away from the camera.

Flipping them will be a bit tricky as you need some idea on where the polygons are.  Do not activate the "Ignore Backfacing" option in the edit mesh modifier or you'll increase the chance of flipping the wrong polygon.

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I used gmax for this example because it's the only program I have.  But it's almost identical to 3DS Max.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2011, 03:43:08 PM »
Now I'm confused, when I flip the parts of the nacceles that need to be flipped, faces start to disapear. Also, parts of the nacceles are acting like they are smoothed even though I removed all smoothing to all parts of the ship. :hithead:
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2011, 03:58:41 PM »
Can I see some screenshots of the model?  When you flipped the polygons, they should have re-appeared.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2011, 04:00:48 PM »
here you go, I noticed that shadows seem to play a factor, is there a way to turn them off?
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2011, 04:05:19 PM »
Flip them back then.  That was not supposed to happen.

Try selecting all of the polygons in the model, then select the "Unify" button instead of the "Flip Mormal Mode".  The Unify button is right above the normal mode button.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2011, 04:09:28 PM »
This happened
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2011, 04:12:12 PM »
Hold up, I unifyied it and broke it using a couple of different options, and then it looked fine
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2011, 05:33:53 PM »
Looking good.  Glad you got it fixed and glad I could help.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2011, 06:57:23 PM »
well, chapman3, you really know your way around max like Baz does.  and with what looks like easier explinations (sorry, baz).  mabey I'll start the Anpw after all.
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2011, 08:05:20 PM »
If you want, you can call me TCR.  I'm known as TCR and/or Chapman on other forums.  What does "Anpw" mean?

Captain_Licard, I can't wait to see some screenshots of your ship in action.  Very unique design.

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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2011, 08:23:49 PM »
in this case, I mean one of my ideas for a ship  the "anpw class" (Anubis when anglicized/whatever)  a PDW (Post Dominion War) take on a Daedalus (i'm the resident round-head around here)

 
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Re: 27th Century Concept (Diamond Class)
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2011, 08:40:29 AM »
I like the work picard has put into and may i remind people, it's his concept, if he wants to put a pink texture on it, he is allowed ;)



now may i give you some tips? :D

I like the basic shape! The warpengines are already better than the first ones, but if you look at it, it reminds me at a xindi reptilian ship.
Try to put these warpnacelles part in the hull perhaps, on the wings for example. Like they have sank in your wings.