Author Topic: ChiefBrex's WIPs List - Current Projects: Rigel Class & TOS Pack (03.05.17) (Read 55517 times)

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #60 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:49:56 PM »

Thanks for all the positive feedback guys. When I get some time to do more work on it, I'll make sure to post some new pics.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #61 on:** April 30, 2011, 09:47:31 AM »

[Edit: Pics removed, updated mesh at end of thread]

WileyCoyote · « **Reply #62 on:** April 30, 2011, 09:50:13 AM »

Definitely Type 1. It looks more TNG-ish.

Darkthunder · « **Reply #63 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:06:28 AM »

Agreed with Wiley

007bashir · « **Reply #64 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:58:00 AM »

agreed too, nr. 1

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #65 on:** April 30, 2011, 06:23:01 PM »

That does seem to be the general consensus all around. And I agree, it looks much better. I'll clean up the nacelle a bit, and then with a good symmetry, make the port nacelle look the same way. Interestingly enough, the change actually dropped the overall poly count from 20.6K to 19.7K. So it's saving me some trouble in that department.

Furthermore, I also tested the ability to widen the neck considerably. It will work. It's going to take some creativity getting the extension to blend into the rest of the secondary hull, but hopefully the neck won't look like a twig anymore when I'm done.

Essentially, the mesh is nearly complete. Once all mesh errors (that I can find) are dealt with, and I have all the details in that I want, I'll start the mapping process.

metalnick · « **Reply #66 on:** April 30, 2011, 10:14:31 PM »

I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this baby!

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #67 on:** April 30, 2011, 10:18:52 PM »

New Pics. Nacelles and Neck updated. Tell me what you think.

[Pics at end of thread]

Tally · « **Reply #68 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:41:01 PM »

looking nice , can't help but picture wider impulse drive so agree with thoughts of widening the neck at the back. Maybe moving forward/aft torp bays from the neck altogether, like the thought of possibly dual forward(one either side of bottom of deflector) and aft torp launchers where curve goes upwards on secondary hull, either side by side at base or a little further apart a little futher up the curve in line with front ones.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #69 on:** May 01, 2011, 01:01:20 AM »

I just widened the neck already. If I make it any wider, it's gonna be almost as wide as the secondary hull. It's just not gonna look right.

serverandenforcer · « **Reply #70 on:** May 01, 2011, 07:35:17 AM »

Perhaps making the neck a slight "V" shape (widest part at the back of the neck starting at the top and narrowing down to the bottom). The width of the impulse engines can extrude out past the width of the back of the neck a bit. However, after several meters along the length of the engine (the length that would be the impulse reactor), going from rear to front, the engine housing gradually meshes along the width of the neck in a concave shape and tappers with it up at the front where the forward torpedo launcher is at.

Tally · « **Reply #71 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:07:29 AM »

would maybe dual impulse side by side at back of saucer/top of neck continuing along lines of TMP/Pre TNG lineage, maybe Galaxy type but side by side there? Not knocking design just seeing where it can be built upon :drool:

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #72 on:** May 01, 2011, 09:42:18 AM »

Quote from: serverandenforcer on May 01, 2011, 07:35:17 AM

Perhaps making the neck a slight "V" shape (widest part at the back of the neck starting at the top and narrowing down to the bottom). The width of the impulse engines can extrude out past the width of the back of the neck a bit. However, after several meters along the length of the engine (the length that would be the impulse reactor), going from rear to front, the engine housing gradually meshes along the width of the neck in a concave shape and tappers with it up at the front where the forward torpedo launcher is at.

The neck is already a V shape. I refer you to the forward view of the ship in the last pic post of mine.

Quote from: Tally on May 01, 2011, 08:07:29 AM

would maybe dual impulse side by side at back of saucer/top of neck continuing along lines of TMP/Pre TNG lineage, maybe Galaxy type but side by side there? Not knocking design just seeing where it can be built upon :drool:

The original design concept that I picked this up from, does not include impulse engines on the saucer, which is why they are not included here. And to add them at this point, would require significant redesign of the saucer. And honestly, I don't see the big deal over the size of the impulse engine. If it continues to be a problem for everyone, I can scrap the project.

Tally · « **Reply #73 on:** May 01, 2011, 09:53:24 AM »

its not a problem at all, was considering you were asking for peoples thoughts i'd contribute with mine

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #74 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Tally on May 01, 2011, 09:53:24 AM

its not a problem at all, was considering you were asking for peoples thoughts i'd contribute with mine

For you, no it's not. People make suggestions without thinking what it's gonna take to implement those changes so it suits their tastes better. I have literally spent the entire morning looking at the neck, spine, and saucer of this ship to try and add extra impulse engines, or widen the neck and spine even further.

It becomes impossible to make the neck wider at the back, because I'd have to move verts around individually. And there's no way I'm gonna be able to keep stuff aligned properly that way. Not to mention the hours its going to take to get all of the verts welded, redraw edges, polies, etc. where necessary. And all because people think the neck is too thin to house both an Impulse deck and a torpedo bay...

I mean really, I'm just about ready to scrap this project. I really don't want to work on it anymore. I'm so frustrated right now.

eclipse74569 · « **Reply #75 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:12:29 PM »

*quirks a brow* Chief dude, maybe you need a couple days of "you" time. While I agree about the neck I understand how it can be a bit of a pain in the @$$ :S. (I have pretty much scrapped my Titan project until I learn more about modeling, hence the box modeling of the TARDIS). Taking some time off may give you fresh ideas! Seriously, there isn't any rush!

Take your time with this one man. She looks excellent

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And another possible reason about it...could be how the saucer is positioned. It's considerably lower than the Galaxy/Ambassador saucer...that's another reason I think it's throwing people off.

EDIT: That last paragraph wasn't asking to change that BTW. Just thinking people need to get used to that idea!!

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #76 on:** May 01, 2011, 04:11:45 PM »

This is the absolute last attempt I make at widening the neck. If this isn't big enough, project over.

[Edit: Pics at end of thread

eclipse74569 · « **Reply #77 on:** May 01, 2011, 04:39:47 PM »

Looks great!!!!

serverandenforcer · « **Reply #78 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:03:47 PM »

Quote from: ChiefBrex on May 01, 2011, 09:42:18 AM

The neck is already a V shape. I refer you to the forward view of the ship in the last pic post of mine.

This is what I meant... to make myself a bit mroe clearer (didn't have access to my computer last night when I posted or I would have done this in the first place to help in what I was presenting).

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #79 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:40:56 PM »

hmmm...actually, that doesn't look too bad...

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