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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #180 on: January 25, 2012, 01:50:00 PM »
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #181 on: January 25, 2012, 02:12:38 PM »
ugh how that episode (and season for that matter) was so cheesy and wrong on so many levels lol

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #182 on: January 25, 2012, 02:42:45 PM »
Odd cause all 7 of my TNG box sets are fine... are we even talking about the same DVD box set?



I'm not the only one, it seems that a lot of people are experiencing it. The plastic casings to click your dvd's in are too hard. So everything you take your dvd out, it cracks a bit the dvd or if you put it back in.. One of the reasons they used a different plastic dvd casing for Ds9/voy/ enterprise and the entire soft casings.



I think they really need to do something about this. Oke it's nice and sharp, and it will probably look better in motion but this is imo far from good. You can see this pure a model, look at the sections, windows, etc.. I'm hoping to see some videofootage soon..

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #183 on: January 25, 2012, 02:47:05 PM »
Huh had no idea the European DVD set was so different from the US release.
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #184 on: January 25, 2012, 04:48:49 PM »
HMV have recently released a complete set of TNG in a "soft" box as it were for ?200.

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;5;-1;-1;-1&sku=5819#anchorSpecialFeatures

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #185 on: January 25, 2012, 04:55:08 PM »
ugh how that episode (and season for that matter) was so cheesy and wrong on so many levels lol
Have to agree mostly, especially the story lines of a certain 15 year old boy being the only person who can save the flagship of the Federation because her crew that all graduated at the top of their class' couldn't do it...

Although I have to admit I enjoyed "The Arsenal of Freedom."  One of TNG's best early episodes in my opinion.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #186 on: January 25, 2012, 05:27:36 PM »


 :yay:

 Very nice CG shot. They have a very accurate mesh there... I almost fell for it being the 6 foot model...  :)

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« Reply #187 on: January 25, 2012, 05:49:41 PM »
I have to admit I enjoyed "The Arsenal of Freedom."  One of TNG's best early episodes in my opinion.
i agree...

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #188 on: January 25, 2012, 07:43:33 PM »
i agree...

That's one I never got around to seeing..
Perhaps I should wait for the HD release? :D
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #189 on: January 25, 2012, 08:59:37 PM »
Very nice CG shot. They have a very accurate mesh there... I almost fell for it being the 6 foot model...  :)

wow another shot I wouldn't have noticed was CG until you pointed it out.

Someone made a nice video montage of the current images we have compared to up scaled DVD shots


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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #190 on: January 25, 2012, 10:01:29 PM »
Well, good thing they at least used a bit of the CGI model in the Saucer Sep scene...I just wish they had done so entirely, I'm inclined to agree with sov001...
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #191 on: January 26, 2012, 05:03:43 AM »
I wish they'd replaced all the fx shots personally. It wouldn't have been disrespectful or any bull like that. Most shots could have been like for like replacements plus using a CGI model of the 6 foot model for all shots would have made every episode of the show consistant (like they did in TOS-R) and match Star Trek Generations.

While I am impressed with the work so far, I feel cheated that they aren't making by far the greatest Star Trek spin off even greater

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« Reply #192 on: January 26, 2012, 10:04:10 AM »
they probably were not given the budget to replace every shot with CG.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #193 on: January 26, 2012, 10:27:27 AM »
True, stupid studio execs!  :funny

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #194 on: January 26, 2012, 11:24:17 AM »
Well, good thing they at least used a bit of the CGI model in the Saucer Sep scene...I just wish they had done so entirely, I'm inclined to agree with sov001...

I even showed it to my dad, who introduced me to TNG. He very much liked the "upgrade" of bluray quality. But like me, he only liked the stuff on board the ship. The people, the visuals of the lcars... The space scenery, he hated.  in less than a few seconds, he already pointed out that it just looked like a model in front of a star background. Somehow he is right. THere are some good improvements in the bluray stuff if it comes to the space scenery. But a lot is just too detailed and too model like. In the seperation stuff, the neck is just soo plastic looking, the windows look like copy paste and it looks they are gonna drop off the neck any moment. There are really some good stuff out there like the cg picture somebody showed here.. Then are again some cg pictures with the overexagerated rainbow warpstreaks..

Then again the use of the 4foot model, 6foot model.. Don't get it actually.. It's not that they use in every single episode different stuff..

1) ship orbit planet
2) admiral visits the enterprise, so the typical excelsior and galaxy moment
3) ship flies in space or warp
4) ship encounters enemy

Those are the typical stuff.. How hard can it be to replace these things and use the same stuff?

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #195 on: January 26, 2012, 11:32:47 AM »
VERY HARD to get the look right. Also no windows on the Ship were decals...
ALSO one other thing... the rainbow warp well that was always there... just much more clearer here xD (everything will look better in motion)
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2012, 02:15:34 PM »
woot just arrived to my door. :D

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #197 on: January 31, 2012, 03:02:01 PM »
VERY HARD to get the look right. Also no windows on the Ship were decals...
ALSO one other thing... the rainbow warp well that was always there... just much more clearer here xD (everything will look better in motion)

actually, he's partially right, lights were done in a composite pass.  Since it would have been prohibitive to light up all the windows on the ship (and at that size they wouldn't have looked right on camera anyway) they painted them with a special UV florescent paint.  After filming it under normal lighting they'd film it with UV so that the windows glowed.  Then it's a simple matter of correcting the color of the windows in the UV pass and combining it with the normal pass so that the windows appeared to be lit on the model (that's also why the windows aren't always lit the same way like they'd be on a traditionally lit model).  I can see where that might look fake on the higher definition bluray.

I think it's interesting that at this definition you can even make out the original Probert color scheme of the Aztec in some of the shots.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #198 on: January 31, 2012, 08:50:19 PM »
the rainbow warp well that was always there... just much more clearer here xD (everything will look better in motion)

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #199 on: January 31, 2012, 10:09:29 PM »
OMFG OMFG! I just watched Encounter at Farpoint and OMFG was the detail SOUND and well ALL AROUND QUALITY AMAZING!!!!

I'm going to watch the next two eps tomorrow but from what I've seen I'm definitely going to be getting the full Blu-ray releases.
They just did an outstanding job.


(the scenes where you think you'd notice the obvious model used well in motion there is no way you can pick it out.)
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