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Offline Locke

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Macet Hybrid
« on: May 23, 2011, 05:34:49 PM »
I was looking around for ideas for a new Ferengi ship, when I ran across this as a free download on TurboSquid.  It wasn't intended for Trek, and I've modified it a bit, but I can't decide whether it should be Ferengi or Cardassian.  The Ferengi obviously need more ships, but for some reason it keeps yelling "Cardassian!" at me.

What do you guys think?


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Re: Concept Ship - Which Race?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 05:45:20 PM »
depends on where the front is, it the end with 2 points is the front then Ferengi, but it the other end is, then a hybrid of Cardassian and Dominion
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Re: Concept Ship - Which Race?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 05:51:25 PM »
Well that's kinda what I was asking.  I know it could go either direction, but I'm wondering which the community would rather see . . .

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Re: Concept Ship - Which Race?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 05:56:11 PM »
IMO she looks too aggressive to be Ferangi.  I like the sound of a Cardassian/Dominion hybrid.  Like maybe she was a ship that was still in a construction yard somewhere when the war came to an end.

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Re: Concept Ship - Which Race?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 06:21:33 PM »
Do both!
No one would notice it though, so it would work well if you did them both just flipped.
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Re: Concept Ship - Which Race?
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 06:44:06 PM »
Of course no one would notice! Well, except for everyone that reads these posts . . . :funny

No, I think this will end up being a hybrid as mentioned before.  Problem is, the mesh has some weird incongruities and asymmetry that I want to cure.  Some asymmetry I can attribute to the Breen's involvement, but the way it's looking, I will have to rebuild the mesh.  Which I don't exactly mind.  The hard part's been done for me! (Designing the darn thing . . .)

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 06:50:52 PM »
You could always do both.  Star Trek is famous for re-using models for different species and just changing a few things on them, or complete flipping the ship around so that it can appear as a different type of ship.

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 08:17:02 PM »
Delete half the mesh, then copy the remaining half, just mirrored
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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 09:14:54 PM »
Yeah, thought about that deadthunder.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure that will work since the centerline of the ship seems a bit ambiguous.  It's okay, I'll probably just start my own version of this mesh, since the greebles are ridiculously small for BC.  Some of them will end up being textured on instead.

EDIT:

Okay, I cut half the ship out and mirrored it.  Worked out alright, but I still might go back and redo it myself, because of that greeble issue.  I'd actually rather rebuild than spend hours and hours picking off individual polys from the mesh.

So anyway, here's a thought: I am a little befuddled by the nose section (the single pointed part is the nose) in that it just doesn't look right.  I tried removing it, but that didn't seem to help.  I want to get this right before I continue with the mesh, so I know what I'm getting into.

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2011, 02:00:54 AM »
Well after removing the Nose, maybe you could design a Galor style Bridge to put on it?


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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 09:23:30 AM »
Either would be nice, but the hybrid is better IMO :D
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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 12:12:21 PM »
Someones just found the Greeble plugin for Max. :P
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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 02:34:45 PM »
Someones just found the Greeble plugin for Max. :P

Nope.  I didn't design this thing.  I just found it and cut some stuff off.  Where would I find such a plugin, BTW?  Might come in handy when I redesign this beasty.

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 02:54:19 PM »
Theres a site called MaxPlugins.de, which has almost every single plugin you could find. Most are free, including Greeble. :D

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2011, 03:40:15 AM »
i say arch the nose gracefully and slightly.. then tip it downward just a hair  (maybe even the wings behind the nose as well, so it flows better with the rest of the body.. the body is arched but the nose is flat and harsh as it stands now

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2011, 03:26:16 PM »
Well, I'm doing away with the nose and going with Nihilus's suggestion.  Or something quite similar, anyway.  That's where the main weapon battery will be housed, with the bridge being in the middle of the "dome" on top.  I'm thinking that the twin booms will function as the warp engines.  Or I might just leave those off and go with what I already have prepared.

The images below show my current progress.  This is just from selecting polys and detaching them from the main mesh.  After I get all the base polys set, I'm going to go back and handpick some of the greebles to integrate into the main mesh.

The current name of the ship is Macet, named after the first Cardassian to appear in Trek.  Although if anyone can come up with a better name I'm all ears (and  :thumbsup:).  The idea here is to create a hybrid ship that can stand toe-to-toe with the Defiant and hold her own.

Currently the mesh in the pics is 2270 polys, which is exceptionally good.  I don't expect the entire thing to get over 8k.  Ignore the blank spots; those I will fix when I finish picking apart the current mesh.


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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2011, 04:52:36 PM »
kinda like
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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2011, 05:09:30 PM »
You know, come to think of it, I kinda like it just as it is.  I mean, I'll obviously fill it out and clean it up some more, but I don't think those long struts are really necessary.  I could put the warp nacelles on the trailing edges of the wings, sorta like a Galor.

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2011, 07:00:48 PM »
Good to see more people workin on Cardassian ships. This design right here looks like it would make a great interceptor or fighter. Bui the other designs posted looks like it would be a great capital ship. Very interesting.

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Re: Concept Ship - Cardassian-Dominion-Breen Hybrid
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2011, 07:08:51 PM »
please upload images rather than hotlinking to them...

thx :)