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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: Dalek on August 07, 2008, 08:15:06 AM
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So I got DJ's blank Century textures, and started playing around with them. I noticed when you put the textures in game, they're really bright. Say what I want is:
A. Help and Advice
B. Any solution to sort out the brightness
All of this would be much appreciated.
The pic shows an attempt on one part of the ship. I changed the warp coil colour and and the bussard collectors but I'm not keeping that design.
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I believe it's the Alpha channel (After seeing many threads like this.) You need to make the alpha dimmer, or something. I'm probably wrong, so if I am, somebody please correct me.
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I believe it's the Alpha channel (After seeing many threads like this.) You need to make the alpha dimmer, or something. I'm probably wrong, so if I am, somebody please correct me.
Hell, I'll believe anyone at the minute. I've decided to call it the USS Arcadia-NCC 82681.
USS Squire hmm?
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I believe it's the Alpha channel (After seeing many threads like this.) You need to make the alpha dimmer, or something. I'm probably wrong, so if I am, somebody please correct me.
Hell, I'll believe anyone at the minute. I've decided to call it the USS Arcadia-NCC 82681.
USS Squire hmm?
Can we expect a slight tribute to Starblazers? Though I'm assuming that's a bit beyond your time. :lol:
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Starblazers? Definately before my time. What made you think of that though?
Image question: What would happen if I just turned the brightness down?
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Image question: What would happen if I just turned the brightness down?
It's be darker.
Looks like a good start. :P
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It's an ooold ooold anime, and one of the ships was the Battleship Arcadia
(http://www.shipschematics.net/yamato/images/edf/battleship_arcadia2.jpg)
As for the brightness thing, I am pretty sure if it has a texture it needs an alpha channel. What are you using to make these textures?
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Something that isn't professional, Adobe and something which doesn't know what Alpha Channels are. :oops::D Do you know of any alpha channel programs or anything like that?
I only named it Arcadia cos during the Time War, there was a planet called Arcadia that was lost to the Daleks. I thought it sounds nice and I'll use it!
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Something that isn't professional, Adobe and something which doesn't know what Alpha Channels are. :oops::D Do you know of any alpha channel programs or anything like that?
I have GIMP, though as I'm completely texturing stupid (No idea how anybody can make such fantastic textures) I can't really use it. If you google it, it won't be hard to find. It's free, too. There's also inkscape, another free one. I'd say go with GIMP though, I'm told it's pretty powerful (And the poor mans Photoshop.)
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Downloading GIMP now. What I'll do, is I'll finish texturing and use GIMP to change the alpha channel stuff. I'm baking cookies for helpful people... :twisted:
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Best of luck, can never have too many Century Classes I reckon! Though I've offered all I know about texturing. :lol:
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Hey, you've given me more help than I thought you would! If this ever gets released, I'll put you in the credits for helpfulness. :D :D :D :D :D :D
And I was only doing the Century since its good and comes with blank textures.? :)
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Hah, thank you kindly, then. Either way, another Century to add to the fleet!
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Can you give instructions to do the alpha channel thing on GIMP? I've opened the file up and am stuck. :o
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Sorry mate, no idea. It may be worth checking out the Tutorials subsection here in BC Modding, you may find something useful. :)
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Oh Prime, I love you at the minute! I added an Alpha layer and now it looks like a proper mod! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! I'll post a pic later with what it looks like!
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Awesome, I helped with texturing! Can't wait to see it mate.
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I can't show it yet. It needs glows!
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Oh hell, here are some pics (without glows on yet!).
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I like it, subtle, but nice.
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I just need glows for the:
Warp Coils
Bussard Collectors
Deck lights
Deflector Dish
Impulse Engines
And if I understand kirk2164's message correctly, he can help me.
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Best of luck! I can't wait to take it for a spin!
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She won't be any different, just a new name and some new colours. I might do a bit more re-colouring in areas.
How would I make her separate from the Century?
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That's just a matter of copying the hardpoint and ship script then pointing all the USS CENTURY bits to whatever you name your hardpoint and ship script.
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Looking very nice. If you want I can help you make it a seperate ship and I should be able to help you with the glows.
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Well kirk2164 pm'ed me about the glows, but I haven't had another response so far. I'll just let loose the textures on this (as a .rar) post, see if someone can make it separate, glowing, or even better both! It's going to be compressed right down (two .tga's a .rar). I know its inconvenient and not practical but, my usable e-mail crapped up. :(
Right, you should be able to do this. :(
please...
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I think I'm going to have to do this in 4 post. Hell, its better than 8.
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Part 3...
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No offence but why didnt you just use the glows that came with the original blank textures, if all you're doing is a reg change?
~Jb06
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Ah! The final bit.
Oh JB, no offense taken but, it became a bit more than a registry change. I added a few black strips and changed the colour of a couple of things. Either way, no glow!
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You're also using the wrong typeface for the registry. Either Microgramma or Starfleet Bold Extended would be much closer than what you're using.
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You're also using the wrong typeface for the registry. Either Microgramma or Starfleet Bold Extended would be much closer than what you're using.
*Starts to get childish* Oh well! Nah, I knew it was the wrong font, downloaded Microgramma and Starfleet Bold Extended.
Liking the textures though?? :D
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Here's new texture with the correct/better font. :D
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Uh, which of these am I downloading?
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H1 should be the main file
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Here you go. Glows taken from the original DJ EntF.
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Here you go. Glows taken from the original DJ EntF.
Yeah this is what i was talking about. There was no need in creating new glows as even if you did do alterations to the actual RGB, the alpha channel would not have been affected.
~Jb06
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Things have gone a bit out of hand. I noticed with all of the textures that something was wrong. I've updated them but I didn't get a chance to say. kirk2164 has told me to do something else which I will do since its sort of gone pear-shaped around here.
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Here's an update. kirk2164 is helping me with the hardpoints and he managed to do one set of glows for me. But I still need the other glows as the warp engines, impulse engines, lights and deflector dish look dead. Here are some pics. I'll post the other .tga's here.
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This post has the h2 and h3 textures. Glows are required! :(
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Here's the h4 textures. Again, glows!
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Fixes.
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I just need to test the new h1 textures to see whether I like them.
Edit: I like them! Posting now kirk2164.
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I have encountered a large problem.
Somehow, my Arcadia textures with the NCC-82681 registry have overwritten all the Enterprise F and other Century textures. When I put the correct textures back in place, the h1 texture stays. In other words, the Century has yellow deflector dish (still called the Arcadia) and teh Ent F has blue deflector, only half activated warp engines (like they should be) yet called the Arcadia. I open the h1 textures of both ships and it shows their names e.g. USS Century instead of USS Arcadia. I replace these textures again and again, I even remove them from the main texture folder (into a backup) yet the Arcadia 82681 textures are still there. Argh!
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When I finish uploading the fixes email me the whole package, scripts, textures, everything and I will sort it out for you.
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I only named it Arcadia cos during the Time War, there was a planet called Arcadia that was lost to the Daleks. I thought it sounds nice and I'll use it!
yay Dr. Who XD
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Hey Dalek, did you manage to upload them to filefont? Sorry I didn't get back to you.
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Don't worry, kirkey is being a huge help. He's added glows and made separate scripts etc. I managed to e-mail the "stuff", he posted them, I'm happy! Except for the problem. Again, kirk is helping out with that. :D Many cookies!
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Don't worry, kirkey is being a huge help. He's added glows and made separate scripts etc. I managed to e-mail the "stuff", he posted them, I'm happy! Except for the problem. Again, kirk is helping out with that. :D Many cookies!
That's good, I was away in Wales for the weekend so that's why I couldn't help you. If there's anything else you wanna ask me then feel free.
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Oh crap, the problem's infected the Clandestine! :(
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Dalek, where are my files?
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I thought I e-mailed them to you. :( Oh bugger, let me try again.
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Can I take a look at the textures?
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Well, here are pictures despite current problems.
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Looking beautiful! What slipstream is that in pic 3?
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Pic 3...my custom made slipstream. I mixed two images (one of them from the actual slipstream mod) together, messed the colours around a little bit and voila! You can see more of my slipstreams in the "Post your Screenshots" thread!
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Question: What links the USS Century/EnterpriseF/Clandestine script wise?
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Nothing links them. They are all separate ships with separate hp's, textures, plugins, etc. (Though that may not be entirely correct, the EntF and Century may share hp's, but I'm not sure.)
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The bussards are perfect.
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Nothing links them. They are all separate ships with separate hp's, textures, plugins, etc. (Though that may not be entirely correct, the EntF and Century may share hp's, but I'm not sure.)
Hmm. Still doesn't explain why USS Arcadia is stuck on the EntF/Cent/Clandestine. If i open the .tga of the Arcadia (the ones with 1713-C) and Clandestine, they show the correct colours and stuff.
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:P If you send it to me, I'll see what I can do with it today.
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You know, that seems to happen to me too... I've flipped through everything to find it with no success.
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I"m pretty sure to solve the problem you need to rename the texture files and then reassign them to the mesh one-by-one in a program like milkshape or max.
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Hey! That's something even I can do texture-wise! Guess I better get back to work on the Vendetta's HP for Farshot. :S Thanks, Curtis (Even though I wasn't the one who asked the question.) Also, sorry for temp-jacking the thread (if I did) Dale.
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USS Prime, don't beat yourself up. I feel as thick as you. :D
kirk2164, whats "it"?
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The whole Arcadia package (something you supposed to do a while ago :wink:.)
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The whole Arcadia package (something you supposed to do a while ago :wink:.)
Just Arcadia textures and scripts or the whole kitten caboodle?
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The whole kitten caboodle.
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You mean USS Century/EnterpriseF/Clandestine stuff?
I'll post them here kirk. The textures will be in .jpg format so you need to convert them back to .tga's.
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Here you go kirk! Do your stuff!
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Heres Arcadia
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Heres EntF (comes in two parts. this is pt1)
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Pt2 of EnterpriseF
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Clandestine comes in 4 parts because of restrictive upload size.
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Pt2 of Clandestine
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Pt 3 of CLandestine :(
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And finally, pt4 of Clandestine.
kirk2164, download these and sort my problems out! Please!
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Dale, why not set up a 1asphost.com account for free? Gets you 100meg space and makes sharing the files alot easier. ;)
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Dale, why not set up a 1asphost.com account for free? Gets you 100meg space and makes sharing the files alot easier. ;)
Hmm. 1 cookie for Mr Prime at table H31PFU1!
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Or just upload it to Filefront :P
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Or just upload it to Filefront :P
Tried that, never worked.
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Alrighty, I downloaded them all, and I'm sorting them out.
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kirk2164, heres the new Adonis accurate textures. They're in .jpg format since BCC has lowered its size restriction so will need converting back to .tga's.
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Hey Dale, are you just using the Centruy's speculars?
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Blank Century specs yah.
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Dale, did you edit the hp by hand? (Not using MPE)
She works ingame now, except she's running of the EntF hp because the one you gave me was broken. (MPE won't even load it.)
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Oh feck, thankyou so much! I'm guessing you can upload all the broken (now fixed I'm guessing) stuff to filefront or somewhere like that?
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Uploaded to Filefront (http://files.filefront.com/ArcadiaFinalrar/;11610874;/fileinfo.html).
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Problems still around.
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Now, this is the Clandestine with my current problem. Its strange how the warp engines don't have textures at all yet they should be black with blue and orange-y bits.
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uhh the texture is named correctly right??
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uhh the texture is named correctly right??
how do you mean?
Edit: kirk2164 is my beta tester and graphically, everythings fine on his end. I just wish everything would work right on my computer. Basically, she's finished!
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The name of the texture must be the same as the one DJ originally named it.
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Yeh, haven't changed the name one bit. Wouldn't dare with what is going on.
I copied the textures back in for the Clandestine and heres the pic.
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Sorry, can't make that out properly due to no AA. Really needs it in this shot.
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The warp pylons are black and the areas around the coils and the bussard collectors are black too. Yet the rest of the ship is Arcadia NCC-82681. Argh!
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here are some more pics thanks to kirk2164.
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For those who want to know the difference with this Century, she has:
Turquoise coloured deflector.
USS Century style warp engines with slight colour change (it's bluer).
Red Bussard Collectors.
Black rimmed armour plating (doesn't work, just looked nice) on top and bottom of saucer and near bridge.
Tiny recolour of the impulse engines
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Looks hot, can't wait to put holes in it, or use it to put holes in something else lol.
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Her new hp ripped me to shreds in the Enterprise F, so I think it will the Arcadia who does the hole punching.
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Anyone who's interested, I've sorted my problem out! I searched for any texture called h1_glow and the first one I looked at was my problem texture! And its sorted! Everything's back to normal! I'll post pics later! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Heres a pic showing the happy Century Ships. But not of the Arcadia, there's still a bit more to do on her.
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Talk about building suspense! :arms:
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sorry Prime, she just needs proper alpha-ing now. Heres a pic. She has new black bits on her!
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Purdy. Black seems very popular on ships nowadays... Maybe I'll have to resort to other painting methods :S
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Personally, I don't see ay colour except black working well on Fed ships!
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Personally, I don't see ay colour except black working well on Fed ships!
Apart from silver :D
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Personally, I don't see ay colour except black working well on Fed ships!
Apart from silver :D
Beige and eggshell blue worked during TOS and TNG... :roll:
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Well, silver is sort of the main hull and I haven't actually seen Fed ships with "silver" instead of black. Unless you mean the hull itself. :D
Maybe I meant TNG onwards Prime, not TOS and TMP. :D
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I think the alphas aren't working properly on hull1. I noticed none of the window lights are on.
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You are correct, I sent him the fixes for it.
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ok
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DJ has kindly given me permission to release this mod! Just need to tweak the readme a bit more.
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If you need a tester....if it's covered then cool.
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I'm afraid kirk2164 has been my secret beta tester. Everything works fine on his and my computer. I'll post some pics.
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Here's something else.
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The time has come to announce...the U.S.S. Arcadia-NCC-2713-D, Century class...has been...uploaded to BC Files!
Now you have to wait...
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I don't want to wait. >/
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Well, it takes BCF a while to upload mods.
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That and BCF staff has to post the file first.
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That and BCF staff has to post the file first.
Sorta what I meant as a whole I think but thanks for pointing it out.
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Good news, my peeps! The Arcadia is on BC Files.
Another thing, I'm planning a tiny little update. Not texture wise, but script-wise. Including:
Experimental Transphasic Torpedoes.
Slipstream Drive (but I'm sure most people can do that for themselves. But I'm doing it anyway).
This isn't a first stage refit! It's a varient!
This would be set roughly at 2401, where experiments with Transphasic Torpedoes and the armour was just beginning in practical usage. Although the armour is not happening in this update. One day, maybe...
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Hey Dalekanium, I sent you a message and was thinking if it was okay to do that? I'll send you a picture of what it looks like currently and get your opinion.