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Title: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 16, 2008, 07:19:12 PM
After 4 and a half years, I'm slowly starting to figure out a couple things when it comes to making models from scratch.  I am still a huge noob at this, but it's something that I can say I built on my own.

The mesh, so far, is how I want it to be.  I just thought I'd show this here since D.net is still undergoing maintenance.

Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 16, 2008, 07:21:01 PM
P.S.

Hull and neck meshes total about 2800 polys.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: eclipse74569 on September 16, 2008, 07:21:09 PM
Looks good so far, looks like a cross-breed of the Connie and Excelsior :)
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 16, 2008, 07:21:54 PM
Looks good so far, looks like a cross-breed of the Connie and Excelsior :)

Actually you're half right.  It's a designed that I've worked on before heavily based on the Excelsior.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: MarkyD on September 16, 2008, 10:29:19 PM
good start m8.. keep going and clean as you go  :D
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Aeries on September 17, 2008, 12:25:10 AM
good start m8.. keep going and clean as you go  :D
Agreed, nice start there dude! :D
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: FourChan on September 17, 2008, 01:29:42 AM
I can't wait to see what the saucer and nacelles look like. But a great start.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 17, 2008, 11:03:43 AM
It's gonna be a long wait, unfortunately.  I really don't have much of any idea how to do a great many things, so I'm pretty much flying blind at this point.

This isn't gonna be a very fancy design, that much I can assure you.  It'll be simple, as most good things are.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: CaptainGMAN on September 17, 2008, 12:59:13 PM
Well it looks like the fleet crazy is making his own ship :wink:
Very nice start Cent.
Nice and clean as always.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 17, 2008, 02:17:27 PM
Well it looks like the fleet crazy is making his own ship :wink:
Very nice start Cent.
Nice and clean as always.

*smacks GMAN with a rubber chicken and turns him into Starr Jones*   :lol:  Just kidding.

Well, I made my own ship a long time ago, the Resurrection.  And one day I hope to rebuild her properly.  But that's gonna be a long while.

I'm just trying to make a higher quality version of a ship I worked on a long time ago.  Could never bash a new version that matched it quite right, and always intended to go back one day and replace all the low poly parts with newer, higher poly parts.  Slowly trying to do that now.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dalek on September 17, 2008, 03:47:31 PM
Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 17, 2008, 04:10:37 PM
Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.

*whistles innocently and looks off into space*  You want oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dalek on September 17, 2008, 04:15:26 PM
Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.

*whistles innocently and looks off into space*  You want oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?

Chocolate chip sounds nice. Don't forget the milk.

Sorry for being kinda off topic guyz. Just a little bit of fun.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 17, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.

*whistles innocently and looks off into space*  You want oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?

Chocolate chip sounds nice. Don't forget the milk.

Sorry for being kinda off topic guyz. Just a little bit of fun.

Ask anyone that knows me well enough, and they'll tell you I've made my reputation on lousy kitbashes and being off topic.  I personally don't mind it.

*slams Dalekanium2 into a chair, forces his mouth open, puts a giant funnel in, then pours a few gallons of milk and then hands him a truckload of chocolate chip cookies*

Besides, you're the only one that guessed what I'm doing.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dalek on September 17, 2008, 04:29:15 PM
Don't slam me! You'll smash my thin bones!

I'm good at guessing... :P
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Captain_April on September 17, 2008, 05:02:50 PM
Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.

*whistles innocently and looks off into space*  You want oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?

Chocolate chip sounds nice. Don't forget the milk.

*slams Dalekanium2 into a chair, forces his mouth open, puts a giant funnel in, then pours a few gallons of milk and then hands him a truckload of chocolate chip cookies*

*falls out of his chair, laughing, barely managing to reach up to the keyboard to type: "Extremism in its worst form", before lapsing into unconsciousness and being taken to a hospital with a concussion from hitting the desk on the way down*

anyway, in all seriousness, that is looking INCREDIBLE. nice job, can't wait to see what's going to happen to this new ship.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 17, 2008, 05:23:25 PM
Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.

*whistles innocently and looks off into space*  You want oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?

Chocolate chip sounds nice. Don't forget the milk.

*slams Dalekanium2 into a chair, forces his mouth open, puts a giant funnel in, then pours a few gallons of milk and then hands him a truckload of chocolate chip cookies*

*falls out of his chair, laughing, barely managing to reach up to the keyboard to type: "Extremism in its worst form", before lapsing into unconsciousness and being taken to a hospital with a concussion from hitting the desk on the way down*

anyway, in all seriousness, that is looking INCREDIBLE. nice job, can't wait to see what's going to happen to this new ship.

*rummages through Captain_April's pockets, pulls out his wallet, removes the cash and cards and other things, puts them back into April's pockets, then takes the wallet*

Nice wallet.   :P

When it comes to the ship, I know I can make a new torpedo pod/pylon set, which I plan on doing next.  After that, I'm somewhat screwed.  I'll probably just bash a new saucer together, but the warp engines are another matter. 
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: JimmyB76 on September 17, 2008, 05:28:56 PM
guys, at least try and keep the thread spam-free lol :P
you can have all the spammy fun you can endure in the FreePost forum ;)
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 17, 2008, 05:31:33 PM
What do you think is filling up the cargo holds of the ship I'm trying to build?   8)

Besides, I'm basically hijacking my own thread.   :lol:
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Aeries on September 17, 2008, 09:57:31 PM
is this a WIP or a role play thread? Either way I like it.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dawg81 on September 17, 2008, 10:04:22 PM
Ahh i see that the fleet lunatic has utilized BCC since Dyna is down. Great start on the mesh.
P.S, I wont tell a certain admiral
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dalek on September 18, 2008, 11:02:51 AM
This is looking nice though.

Looks kinda Chabot-ey. :D just kiddin. Looks good.

*whistles innocently and looks off into space*  You want oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?

Chocolate chip sounds nice. Don't forget the milk.

*slams Dalekanium2 into a chair, forces his mouth open, puts a giant funnel in, then pours a few gallons of milk and then hands him a truckload of chocolate chip cookies*



I feel like a cow gone hyper.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: JimmyB76 on September 18, 2008, 11:12:36 AM
guys (again) please keep the posts ontopic, and please avoid mixing ontopic and spam in posts...

thx :)
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 18, 2008, 01:48:13 PM
Ahh i see that the fleet lunatic has utilized BCC since Dyna is down. Great start on the mesh.
P.S, I wont tell a certain admiral

Oh that would be a sight to behold, wouldn't it?  Besides, he'll find out about it sooner or later, especially since I posted a link in 9th forums.  :-p

Dalek....cow gone hyper?  Now that's something I'd be interesting in seeing.

*looks for his camera*

Oh, and a little bit of news on the ship front.  Was introduced to a couple good tutorials on making different kinds of nacelles, and also found someone who's actually willing to work with me step by step.

Things are definately looking up.  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: JimmyB76 on September 18, 2008, 01:52:11 PM
especially since I posted a link in 9th forums.  :-p
9th forums??  i dont think ive ever seen that site?


Oh, and a little bit of news on the ship front.  Was introduced to a couple good tutorials on making different kinds of nacelles, and also found someone who's actually willing to work with me step by step.

Things are definately looking up.  Stay tuned.
good news!!  :D
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: CaptainGMAN on September 18, 2008, 02:32:23 PM
especially since I posted a link in 9th forums.? :-p
9th forums??? i dont think ive ever seen that site?

Yeah Jimmy the 9th Fleet forums thats how I know this lunatic he is the SFC CO and Dawg is my CO.

and good to hear Cent.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 18, 2008, 03:44:55 PM
Now who are you calling a lunatic?  *looks in the mirror*  Oh, I see.  :lol: Nevermind.  Carry on.

*continues work on the mesh*
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 19, 2008, 05:08:22 PM
Still at it, but coming close to a dead end.  I could always use existing warp engines, but I am determined to learn to make them myself.  It'll happen soon.

Anyway, torpedo pod and pylon assembly finished.  I think it came out pretty good, don't you guys?
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Aeries on September 19, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
aye, I'll be keeping my eyes on this one.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: FourChan on September 19, 2008, 05:43:37 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dawg81 on September 19, 2008, 09:48:05 PM
High Praise there ol friend of mine have a cookie torpedo with a rubber chicken on the side ROFL
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 19, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
High Praise there ol friend of mine have a cookie torpedo with a rubber chicken on the side ROFL

*smacks Dawg with a rubber chicken and turns him into Nanner's shoe*  BOW BEFORE THE POWER OF MY RUBBER CHICKENS!!!

MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

*smacks Dawg again and turns him back to normal*

Thanks for the cookie.

I've created a saucer for this baby, and it's pretty decent.  Nothing fancy.  Excelsior in design.  However, all I have right now is a lathed spline.  No other details on the saucer yet, such as the impulse drive assembly and other things.  I know I'm gonna need help in that.

Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: limey BSc. on September 19, 2008, 10:02:15 PM
Looking good so far :) Try rendering without backface culling on so we can see the neck properly. Also, add some damn smoothing to it :P
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 19, 2008, 10:03:47 PM
Looking good so far :) Try rendering without backface culling on so we can see the neck properly. Also, add some damn smoothing to it :P

How do I do that rendering without backfacing?  Never done that before.

And maybe I will make a few more renders with some smoothing. 

I do know that I'm gonna resize all them torpedoes cause I think they're a bit too big for a ship this size.  She's supposed to be on par with an Excelsior.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 20, 2008, 12:10:29 AM
Well Limey, ya wanted smoothing, ya got smoothing.  I applied a smoothing of 30 to the mesh just for ya.

What you think?

Oh, and so far, the ship stands at a little over 3500 polys when converted to an editable mesh.

Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 20, 2008, 12:11:42 AM
2 more...
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Aeries on September 20, 2008, 12:13:02 AM
Better than my first go, that's for sure.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Bones on September 20, 2008, 04:57:19 AM
Nice shape :D kinda reminds me of Sorcerer/PDW Excelsior
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: limey BSc. on September 20, 2008, 05:39:29 AM
Looks better :D The good thing about adding the smoothing as you go, is it can show up areas that need more polys to smooth out. Like, on 12.jpg, you can see the smoothing groups struggling to smooth out a bit near the bottom.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 20, 2008, 11:49:54 AM
Looks better :D The good thing about adding the smoothing as you go, is it can show up areas that need more polys to smooth out. Like, on 12.jpg, you can see the smoothing groups struggling to smooth out a bit near the bottom.

Where?  I don't see a problem.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 20, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
Nice shape :D kinda reminds me of Sorcerer/PDW Excelsior

The Sorcerer was to be an XCA, and I've been using an old P81 model as a guide, which also happened to be an XCA.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: limey BSc. on September 20, 2008, 11:59:22 AM
(http://www.jl-studios.co.uk/12.jpg)

The circled bit. Also, the front near the top could do with a chamfer or 2. It wouldn't need to go down below the deflector though.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 20, 2008, 12:08:03 PM
Those areas are a result of what I had to do in order to just get the shape I needed for the hull.  The only way I could really fix those areas is to redo the whole hull.  Took me several days to get it to this point, and it wasn't 100% what I wanted, but close enough.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 21, 2008, 01:45:08 AM
I started work on the saucer and the beginning of the impulse engines.  The big pain is gonna be making those side engines pioneered by the Ent-B.

Believe it or not, the saucer was the easiest part of this ship to build so far.  :-p

The easiest parts to come will probably be the bridge and, if I choose to add them, the impulse crystal domes.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: FourChan on September 21, 2008, 02:12:18 AM
Looking great.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dawg81 on September 21, 2008, 09:57:26 AM
looking good cent i wish u luck with the aux impulse engines
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 21, 2008, 03:33:17 PM
looking good cent i wish u luck with the aux impulse engines

I'm gonna need it.  But I'm also getting some ideas for a U.S.S. Daihak, MK3 Chabot Refit.   :D
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dawg81 on September 21, 2008, 05:50:58 PM
looking good cent i wish u luck with the aux impulse engines

I'm gonna need it.  But I'm also getting some ideas for a U.S.S. Daihak, MK3 Chabot Refit.   :D
and dont forget USS Dawg NCC-40681
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 21, 2008, 05:51:58 PM
looking good cent i wish u luck with the aux impulse engines

I'm gonna need it.  But I'm also getting some ideas for a U.S.S. Daihak, MK3 Chabot Refit.   :D
and dont forget USS Dawg NCC-40681

I've got an Excelsior kitbash for that.  Remember, the Chabots have registries in the 75000 range and above.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 26, 2008, 07:01:55 PM
Ok, still strugging with the warp engines.  I can't seem to figure out how to make them.  And no, they're not Excelsior warp engines.  :-p  I saved a tut from someone on Scifi-meshes that I know I can use to make Excelsior warp engines if I so choose.

I decided to take a break in figuring out the warp engines to try and get the aux impulse engines out of the way.  I think I succeeded, but it took me several days to figure it out.

So, here are some update pics.  Keep in mind, I only worked on the aux impulse engines, and played with the look a bit.

All I've got left really to do is make the warp engines, make the sensor dome, a bridge and other details on the top of the saucer, resize the torpedoes so they aren't so big, and then extrude some phaser arrays.  The bitch is gonna be the warp engines and sensor dome, the warp engines being the more painful.

Oh, and Limey, I think I figured out a way to fix that little area you were talking about on the underside of the secondary hull.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP1.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP2.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP3.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP4.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP5.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP6.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Daihak/WIP/WIP6x2.jpg)
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: FourChan on September 26, 2008, 07:07:23 PM
The way the ship looks, i'd make something TMP progressed to TNG, kinda like a Excelsior engines with a TNG Galaxy flare to it, something like that.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 26, 2008, 07:08:17 PM
The way the ship looks, i'd make something TMP progressed to TNG, kinda like a Excelsior engines with a TNG Galaxy flare to it, something like that.

Believe it or not, this is gonna be TNG.  You just can't see it yet.  :-p
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dawg81 on September 26, 2008, 11:52:09 PM
dual vents on the aux engine eh nice touch. I like how this is prgressing time to send ya a rubber chicken messenger with a cookie
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 26, 2008, 11:53:46 PM
dual vents on the aux engine eh nice touch. I like how this is prgressing time to send ya a rubber chicken messenger with a cookie

Thou shall not forsake the power of my rubber chickens!!!!  *smacks Dawg with a rubber chicken and turns him into an 85 year old version of himself*

I'm being lazy tonight. :-D

Thanks for the compliments. 
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: MarkyD on September 27, 2008, 03:31:51 AM
nice progress mate  :)
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on September 27, 2008, 04:54:46 AM
nice progress mate  :)

Thanks, but I've pretty much hit a dead end.  I can finish off the bridge, impulse domes, and other details in that area, but the sensor domes and warp engines are really screwing with me.

I've been playing around all night in trying to create the sensor dome.  I can't seem to get it right.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on October 02, 2008, 11:25:28 AM
Just thought I'd let everyone know I'm still working on the ship, just not as heavily as I was before.

I've made a sensor dome, but gonna change it slightly.  Then I'm gonna work on the bridge and smaller details, and resize those torpedo launchers.

The warp engines are still a pain.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Nighthawk on October 02, 2008, 02:14:24 PM
looking good!
very sharp and well designed.

be careful with the polies you cut in order to add parts, if any. when the nif is exported, some edges can end turned the other way around, screwing your smoothing.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on October 02, 2008, 02:16:16 PM
looking good!
very sharp and well designed.

be careful with the polies you cut in order to add parts, if any. when the nif is exported, some edges can end turned the other way around, screwing your smoothing.

Someone else is gonna have to worry about that.  I'm an SFC modder.  Just posted my WIP shots cause alot of BC models are really attractive to those of us in the SFC Community, and I know alot of SFC models have been ported to BC.  So we're kinda joined at the hip.
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: cordanilus on October 02, 2008, 04:01:19 PM
Quote from: F9thCenturus
So we're kinda joined at the hip.

Ewwwww.....but the ship does look good. :D
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Centurus on October 03, 2008, 12:37:44 AM
Quote from: F9thCenturus
So we're kinda joined at the hip.

Ewwwww.....but the ship does look good. :D

You have a problem being joined at the hip with me?   :) 8) :wink: :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: WIP...
Post by: Dawg81 on October 03, 2008, 08:57:00 AM
he has gas