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Title: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 28, 2009, 11:04:16 PM
Hacked together Andruril's TOS Constitution and p81's Miranda to create a "what if"- in this case, "what if the remastered "The Ultimate Computer" has 3 pre-TMP Miranada-class vessels instead of 3 Constitutions?"

Please excuse the bad screenshot, Messing with BC models (or models in general) isn't my specialty. My specialty is SOund effects, which I can also post in a seperate thread, if anyone's interested.

(http://georgheissmann.googlepages.com/TOSMiranda.jpg)

Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: CyAn1d3 on July 29, 2009, 07:52:19 AM
not bad, but id get rid of the deflector on the torpedo pod, other than that, like i said, not bad
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: King Class Scout on July 29, 2009, 09:24:55 AM
if your gonna TOS a miranda, primitivize the rollbar.  probably make it look like the wing off an Evo with an oval module, or the clipped off nose of a drive hull.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: DJ Curtis on July 29, 2009, 09:50:43 AM
I actually like the deflector on the rollbar.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: Shino Tenshi on July 29, 2009, 11:59:12 AM
yep, that's a great idea. :)
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: Joshmaul on July 29, 2009, 12:32:31 PM
I saw a TOS Miranda design there they put the deflector dish on that dome on the bottom side of the saucer, maybe that would work if you don't keep it as is?
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: ACES_HIGH on July 29, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
I like it, we've needed a new Surya for a while.  although I'd have to agree, the deflector pod should be more of a tube shape, the angles look too modern.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 29, 2009, 05:01:34 PM
A variant with the dish mounted on the saucer is not out of the question. Finding a mounting system is the only thing preventing me from doing it right now.

Starting to re-work the rollbar. I shrank the old torpedo bay to accomodate the deflector dish and straightened everything out, giving the ship a TOS-era angled look over the TMP/TNG era "sleek curves" style.

(http://georgheissmann.googlepages.com/TOS-Miranda2.jpg)
(http://georgheissmann.googlepages.com/TOS-Miranda3.jpg)
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: majormagna on July 29, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
Ooh, I like it! I always thought the deflector should be there  :P

Anywho, to make it even more TOS-ish, how about making the nacelle (and therefore rollbar) pylons as flimsy looking as the TOS-Constitutions are?
Just an idea.

I'll be checking on this a lot; I like where it's headed.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 29, 2009, 06:48:49 PM
Like this?

Rollbar and pylons are "flimsier", except where strenghtened around the sensor pod.

(http://georgheissmann.googlepages.com/TOS-Miranda4.jpg)
(http://georgheissmann.googlepages.com/TOS-Miranda5.jpg)
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: GMunoz on July 29, 2009, 08:11:45 PM
Very nice I like the dish on the roll bar. Although, I do not know if mega-phaser pods would be appropriate for a TOS Miranda, maybe two more smaller deflectors like the ones on the Federation class dreadnaught?
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: majormagna on July 29, 2009, 08:21:52 PM
"Hey good job there, hardhat!" (If anyone gets it...) Perfect with the pylons, just right.

I wouldn't go with the extra deflectors instead of megaphasers, but I wouldn't know what else to put there... Perhaps diagonal phaser banks? (facing port/starboard, but slightly up too).
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 29, 2009, 08:54:07 PM
So THAT'S what those things are. Believe it or not, I haven't watched TWOK in a while.

Yeah, I may delete the pods and weld the rollcage together.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: King Class Scout on July 29, 2009, 09:15:13 PM
definetly better with the thin mounts.  and, quite frankly, the sensor dish is starting to look rather natural up there
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: CyAn1d3 on July 29, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
definetly better with the thin mounts.  and, quite frankly, the sensor dish is starting to look rather natural up there
yea, i retract previous statement. it just didnt look right to me before. now it looks alot better
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 29, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
Mind you, I also rescaled the torpedo pod to make it look more natural.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: CyAn1d3 on July 29, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
Mind you, I also rescaled the torpedo pod to make it look more natural.

i think thats what did the trick.
looks good. keep at it :)
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 29, 2009, 11:53:59 PM
Slowly but surely modding the model to look more and more TOS-ish.

Update pics soon-ish.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on July 31, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
Removed phaser pods.

(http://georgheissmann.googlepages.com/TOS-Miranda6.jpg)
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: King Class Scout on July 31, 2009, 08:00:18 PM
BINGO.  i'll take that as is right now.  good work.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: engineer on August 01, 2009, 02:25:38 AM
The amount of changes though..... It would probably warrant a new UV map and texture, both of which are beyond my pay grade.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: CyAn1d3 on August 01, 2009, 12:05:27 PM
as i was told on here: "gotta learn to do it sometime"
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: Dalek on August 01, 2009, 12:09:22 PM
I thought it looked better with the phaser pods. Cos now it looks like one piece of curved metal.
Title: Re: My take on: "What if" TOS-era Miranda class
Post by: majormagna on August 01, 2009, 01:18:10 PM
Yeah... sometrhing still looks off; perhaps if you make the rollbar completely straight too, perhaps add a chunkier 'block' where the rollbar and pylons meet.

Just to break it up a bit.