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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: MarkyD on May 14, 2010, 04:56:52 AM
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Hi fellas
I remember seeing an Andorian ship being made before I left, so I am trying my hand at one.. any point me in a good direction for ref's?
Thanks.
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The thread that had the Andrian ship is here, I posted a couple of pics there.
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,6858.0.html
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I assume you're looking for Shran's ship from Enterprise, since that's the only Andorian ship I can think of. Doug Drexler has plenty of reference pics...
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/andorian-cruiser/
There is also this little guy which was reused multiple times on Enterprise. She was an Andorian ship once, looking like she does here, but painted Blue like the larger Andorian ships.
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/valakianhumanandorian-ship/
John Eaves has some other concept drawings here as well if someone wishes to make an Andorian Fleet.
http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/41-1.jpg
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:yay: Thanks fellas, just what I needed.
Never seen that second one either Nihilus, good find.
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No problem :). I also posted some concept art John Eaves drew of some other Andorian ships. I don't know if you seen it since you responded before I finished Editing my post lol.
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Thanks, very nice.. :thumbsup:
Can anyone shed any light on what goes on in here?
I have found plenty of ref's but all seem to cover areas of the mid / rear section.. I have outlined what I think is going on.
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Nihilus gave you the perfect ref links...
especially this one
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/andorian-cruiser/
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian_ship_front.jpg?w=655&h=143)
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian_ship_top.jpg?w=655&h=350)
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian_ship_bottom.jpg?w=655&h=354)
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian_ship_back.jpg?w=655&h=229)
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian_ship_side.jpg?w=655&h=222)
Ohh that section... well think of it like a jet engine... the top, bottom and rear shots show a good outline of it.
Here are some more....
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian_ship_beauty.jpg?w=655&h=303)
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/andorian-battle-cruiser-kumari-proving-ground-16.jpg?w=655&h=368)
Maybe you could email drex to get a better view of it?
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Maybe you could email drex to get a better view of it?
I don't see how more references would be of any worth after the orthos, especially official ones.
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Maybe you could email drex to get a better view of it?
I don't see how more references would be of any worth after the orthos, especially official ones.
there is a part the orthos is blocking a view of...
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Great to see ya back in the saddle again so soon after u been overseas. That is going to be a great edition to your ever growing list of ship projects
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Maybe you could email drex to get a better view of it?
I don't see how more references would be of any worth after the orthos, especially official ones.
there is a part the orthos is blocking a view of...
Yeah, what he said lol :P
Great to see ya back in the saddle again so soon after u been overseas. That is going to be a great edition to your ever growing list of ship projects
Cheers mate, should have the mesh finished in a few days if I get time to work on it, I am emailing Drex today to see if he would mind showing a render of the section we cannot see correctly.
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I have a couple andorian concept models. I had intended to make them to round out the fleet. They are very rough and very low poly, but if you'd like to see them, I can arrange it.
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:yay: Thanks fellas, just what I needed.
Never seen that second one either Nihilus, good find.
Second one really interesting. Reminds me of a trek Viper.
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I have a couple andorian concept models. I had intended to make them to round out the fleet. They are very rough and very low poly, but if you'd like to see them, I can arrange it.
I would like that mate.
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Here you are.
Let me know if you want more detailed shots or something.
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Very nice mate, when I am done with this, I may take on a few of them with your permission, higher poly. :thumbsup: Nice designs.
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Agreed. Nice models. :) Have a cookie.
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I have got far enough now to show a wip, the mesh is 100% unified and sits at 4048 Polies. When its finished it will prob be just over 10k as the wings have allot of detail. I am fleshing out the thrusters you see in that problematic area at the minute, but I now have a good feeling about there shape etc.
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By all means - permission granted with my utmost blessings. Think I could convert them to SFC though?
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Looking good brawd,now keep working hard. And please try and finish this one. Send all work to me and i will keep it safe. So you dont lose it all *cough* Arrow *cough* :P
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Looks really good, I can't wait to blow up some Vulcans with it
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Or some Tellarite swine
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Thanks fellas,
By all means - permission granted with my utmost blessings. Think I could convert them to SFC though?
Definitely, and thanks.
Looks really good, I can't wait to blow up some Vulcans with it
Vulcans, theirs another one that needs a good decent rendition.
Looking good brawd,now keep working hard. And please try and finish this one. Send all work to me and i will keep it safe. So you dont lose it all *cough* Arrow *cough* :P
Yeah.. Infact I might just do that today mate :-)
Thanks for the comments fellas, I will hopefully have most of the mesh finished up today. :hithead:
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:) Looking real good though mate,nice to see you back at it :yay:
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I was being somewhat optimistic with getting the mesh finished today, I have managed to finish the mid section (aft). Took a lot of squinting at screenies but I am happy with the result, I have started to box model the wings and position them, so that when I continue tomorrow I will have a good basis to start.
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Little more progress :)
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Lil ,more :D
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HOLY ^&*(!!!! that is one sleek looking andorian ship Marky!!!!! WB
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Beautiful mate!!
Cookie
BTW, welcome home.
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Awesome bit of work there. I love that Andorian ship, wish I'd have seen the Enterprise episode with that in it.
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It actually showed up pretty often - They really developed the Andorians in that show - one of it's few saving graces, methinks.
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It actually showed up pretty often - They really developed the Andorians in that show - one of it's few saving graces, methinks.
Yep they were a power to be wrecken with before Starfleet swallowed them and the vulcans up and are now a powerless race that relys on the Federation to protect them and help them
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It actually showed up pretty often - They really developed the Andorians in that show - one of it's few saving graces, methinks.
Yep they were a power to be wrecken with before Starfleet swallowed them and the vulcans up and are now a powerless race that relys on the Federation to protect them and help them
That's not the way I saw it.
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I'm quite Positive Shran would captain that thing with pride.
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Lil ,more :D
ME WANT! cookie 4 you!
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Thanks for all the praise fellas, I will finishing the mesh on Tuesday I hope, then I can get started on the textures.
Again, thanks :)
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damn dude, awsome stuff! always liked that ship :)
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Thanks mate..
Wings are done, I am just doing allot of poly reduction and mesh cleaning at the minute.
Thanks again. ;)
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Keeping the polies down on this has been a pain, just finished unifing, then refining the wings to keep it looking smooth but detailed. current poly count is 6900 polies.
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Mark is definatly back, excellent work my friend.
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THanks baz..
forgot the wire
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AND...
not to spam my own thread with post after post.. but she is done..
Shran can buckle up and take her for a spin :evil: besides the paintwork that is :hithead:
7800 polies, the final verdict :yay:
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another fantastic ship done by MarkyD
BTW U ARE NOMINATED heheheheheehe
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Very, very, VERY nice!
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great looking ship have a cookie
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Thanks for all the comments fellas.. I have just started to map her out..
in the meantime this morning I was feeling in the mood to make this for a guy over at the Dyna called Kreeargh, He has retired from game modeling but loves all things tron.. :evil:
but yeah, fun over... back to Shran's ship... :thumbsup:
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That's sweet!
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Thanks mate... a little old school bit i think they hold up :thumbsup:
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you need to make the new ones for the approaching New Tron Movie
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Mapping on the andorian is progressing well.. to give me a break in-between, I started to model a NX-01 Shuttle Pod, hopefully baz will take this on when finished and it can be released with his nx-01..
Trying to keep the poles down to a minimum here, keeping it unified and clean but detailed enough.
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That's nice, man. I love those high quality models.
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Thanks :)
So I kinda had to fix the back after looking at drex files :facepalm:
Currently 400 Polies... hmmm how low can i make it keeping it looking good.. this is like a personal challenge :dance
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sweet :D
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ace. its very nice to see this comunity still has talented modders and doesnt get old. lovely :thumbsup:
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Lol... Old... and here is me at only 30 :bitch:
Lol
anyway.. little more, not much but the nose was a biatch to match drex files :hithead:
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looks very sweet mate :) and kudos to the low polycount !
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Thanks mate.. :D
Still trying to keep this low but detailed. :dance
Spent the day so far cleaning the back area and building those wings and small struts with thrusters, unified em, then cut down on polies. she is taking shape surely enough.
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Love it. It's gorgeous! Heck, without the glass dome you could market it as an alien pod. :funny
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dang cool
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Thanks fellas.. almost there :yay:
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Looking real good brawd. Not sure if anyone has ever told you,you are quite good at modeling ships :P
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Lol... Old... and here is me at only 30 :bitch:
nonononono i didnt mean it like that xD
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Looking real good brawd. Not sure if anyone has ever told you,you are quite good at modeling ships :P
Thanks brawd face, and you know what.. not recently :bitch: well today atleast :roll
nonononono i didnt mean it like that xD
Lol.. just pulling ur leg son :dance
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Lil more, plus the latest wire... :thumbsup:
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cool, should be fun to pilot, they had polarized armor and a phase cannon right?
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Lol..
Ok its done, nice to see its a popular model here :lostit:
anyway, poly count less than 2k, mapping has started. :)
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Simply beautiful for under 2k. :D
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Awesome model there Mark! Not fancy doing some more canon shuttles, we're in need of em :P
Cookie
~Jb
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For a low poly model, that's very impressive. :bow:
This deserves a giant cookie. You earned it, lol.
(http://techhouse.brown.edu/~dmorris/photos/xmas.decorations.03/00.jeff.cookie.jpg)
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@ Billz.. had a giggle good pic mate :yay:
Awesome model there Mark! Not fancy doing some more canon shuttles, we're in need of em :P
Cookie
~Jb
When it comes to shuttle meshes im always open to throw em out :)
Thanks fellas, very much appreciated :thumbsup:
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It might just be me, but those wires all show a majority of the mesh as quads, which I didn't think BC liked? :idk:
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It might just be me, but those wires all show a majority of the mesh as quads, which I didn't think BC liked? :idk:
Nice lesson for you son... it built as a quad as in a POLY, most meshes are built as quads... then when converted all game models become meshes and are triangulated.. as long as those quads are unifed in max.. ie you could draw a singular line and make a triangle then you are A1
lesson over. :evil:
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So, the *.nif conversion process automatically splits quads into tris? Huh. Learn something new every day. :funny
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So, the *.nif conversion process automatically splits quads into tris? Huh. Learn something new every day. :funny
A model will not leave the max format without conversion.. the .nif .mod and every exporter ever will do this function, hence the importer / exporters's function. i am not an expert on exporting, but im sure its the case :thumbsup:
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:P And here I thought it was so different formats could read vertex and face placements. :funny Seriously though, I love the shuttlepod, and you've done it justice for sure.
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A model will not leave the max format without conversion.. the .nif .mod and every exporter ever will do this function, hence the importer / exporters's function. i am not an expert on exporting, but im sure its the case :thumbsup:
Not all formats triangulate the mesh. It depends what the specs of the format are, if they can handle more than 3 vertices for a face.
Out of interest, is that 2k count polys or tris?
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Hey Limey,
Its a max renderd face count..
so thats 1500 polies.. and for a shuttle in this detail with it being 100% unified and clean Is very clean :dontcare:
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When you eventually get it ingame, will be accurate scale (to this pack anyway http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/;41033)?
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Yes mate I would like to think so. :thumbsup:
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I look forward to this launching from my NX-Refit.
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Ok guys
Ok, mapping on the shuttle is 100% finished.
Please feel free to download the shuttle and play with it... please texture as you see fit, even if you have not done it before, i have included a UVW texture map that shows the locations of all the faces.
Mapping is mirrored... so the registries will work lol :laugh:
Lets see some, Mirror universe types or borg take overs etc too 8)
All i ask is that all releases of this model need to read:
NX-01 Shuttlepod model by MarkyD
UVW Mapping and templates by MarkyD
Thats it, apart from that have some fun guys 8)
I will be making my own too :thumbsup:
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forgot to update the uvw map with the model in the rar...
here it is..
give it a shot ya bums :evil:
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and... the mapping is ok
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O.o
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forgot to update the uvw map with the model in the rar...
here it is..
give it a shot ya bums :evil:
-stares blankly-
oooohhhh pretty shade of green...
Wish I could map like that, let alone look at it without getting a headache. xD
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OOOooooo. can I bum this for a P-Star shuttle?
the green pelt seam is the colour I also use. even with Baz's help, I can't figure out how to reassign hides for better unwrapping like you did with the shuttle. it's driving me crazy.
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Thanks fellas..
Mapping is all about practice.. use the standard 3ds max tools and get stuck in... :thumbsup:
The best advice i can give is that if you can learn organic mapping you will learn to stitch the uv's in the mapping phase.. then
mapping summat like a ship or shuttle becomes a breeze it really does ;)
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OK... so whilst texturing the shuttle, I decided i wanted more mesh detail and started looking into normal maps etc etc... (i know BC does not support them)
That got me on a fiddle and i started to play with normal maps etc, as a project on getting me there, I decided to build a tardis, make it nice and accurate, high poly so then i can use certain elements for a bump map later. The actual mesh is low enough for game mind.. me being well. me.. i have spent an hour cleaning her up and its only 900 polies :thumbsup:
So i WILL release the full model and use it as a test pice for normal maps and texturing.. BTW I don't really like Dr Who, the model just suited my needs :)
Hopefully, after I have done this I can use a simular technique to do the shuttle and the Andorian ship and then future projects like the TNG Atraiu etc.
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BC might not support normals and bumps, but remember you can simulate it. Something about baking the shadows in or... I dunno.
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Last one for today.. mesh finished at 1700..
BC might not support normals and bumps, but remember you can simulate it. Something about baking the shadows in or... I dunno.
Yes mate, its a method known as render baking, where you would bake bumps / normals / glows etc to the hull.. I used it on the gagarin, only very slightly though. :)
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Cool. Love the Tardis! But you need a decent interior/bridge to go with it!! And it would be really cool to see some sort of uber-advanced weapon that sends out a massive shockwave to disable other ships, or something like that.
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TARDIS!!!! <3<3<3<3
Looks like the Tenth Doctor version too!! <3<3
Looks ace!!!
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:D you've managed to do that faster than i have. I never got round to texturing mine (Can't texture very well in GMAX) .. http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,7311.0.html. Plus yours looks alot better.
I have a Dalek mothership model if you want it. Otherwise its brilliant. :yay:
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I should pay more attention to this thread...nice TARDIS. :D
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Thanks fellas
TARDIS!!!! <3<3<3<3
Looks like the Tenth Doctor version too!! <3<3
Looks ace!!!
Yeah its tenth ver.. Nice spot :thumbsup:
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It can easily be retextured to be made into Elevenses...:P
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I went off the best image I could find on the net.. the one where Billy Piper is in it.. The only difference I noticed on images of the newer versions of the tardis was the housing on the light above was slightly differently shaped..
Whats the texture difference matey :)
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Turn up the saturation (and make the wood seem less grimy), blacken the windows and make their frames white, add a Saint Johns Ambulance sticker to the right door and voila, Eleventh Doctor TARDIS.
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So it looks like an old one.. ?
Have they gone backwards in the design scheme... after the tenth?
That one is fugly too.. I reckon I will let someone else do a retexture if they so wish mate :) you up for converting it :P
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Yes, they have gone backwards. But in my opinion it doesn't look so bad.
But I don't have Max anymore, can't do any converting. :(
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Ok mate, no problems... if ya want me to beat ur ur dad just let me know :evil:
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I'd say keep it the Ninth and Tenth Doctor colour scheme.
Or, if you want to feel really retro, you could always do a similar texture scheme to what it looked like in Logopolis back in 1981, lol. :P
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Ok mate, no problems... if ya want me to beat ur ur dad just let me know :evil:
Nah it'll be fine, but I'll keep that in mind for a later date. ;)
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I'd say keep it the Ninth and Tenth Doctor colour scheme.
Or, if you want to feel really retro, you could always do a similar texture scheme to what it looked like in Logopolis back in 1981, lol. :P
Lol.. I was urm.... 1 years old then :D
What did it look like..
Nah it'll be fine, but I'll keep that in mind for a later date. ;)
You have my card...
In 2010, a crack commando guy was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. He promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survive as soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire MarkyD and he will kick daddies butts for free. :nono:
Lol
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Lol.. I was urm.... 1 years old then :D
What did it look like..
It aired 5 years before I was born. Guess it helps to be a fan, lol. :D
Ever heard of Google? :P
(http://i43.tinypic.com/4hpkdf.jpg)
PS: Ignore the caption in the picture
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To be fair with the exception of a blue police notice board, and fatter window frames, lock on the opposite side... missing a handle on the door? there is not allot of diference, the general shape is less detailed, but not overly... what did the light look like?
P.S
Google sucks for a forum convo when people wanna follow along ;)
Thanks mate :thumbsup: