constant BSOD with BC

[Flowrellik]

OK I have a very major dilemna here.
I have bridge commander with aftermath in but I installed one ship, Wicked Zombie's Lexington, and all of a sudden BOOM! Error on startup in quickbattle.
little help here?

[hobbs]

hmmm maybe have a look at getting rid of the carrier file if it has one or double check the requirements for that ship

[KrrKs]

Like Hobbs said, the Lexington's carrier file was faulty, afaik.
Nevertheless a console printout might be helpful.

[Flowrellik]

Well, I got rid of the carrier file for the Lexington. Seems like it works better now.
Thank you guys

[hobbs]

glad to help as payment you can create a ship for the forum

[Flowrellik]

sadly I dont have 3dsmax :c.
Im a decent HPer though.

[hobbs]

sadly I dont have 3dsmax :c.
Im a decent HPer though.

use gMax its free

[Flowrellik]

I'm sorry for the necro bump but this is urgent.
I've been meaning to ask this question but is there a ship limit that Bridge commander can handle?
So far Ive been making a TMP/TOS era compile(Private) and well....lets just say getting into quick battle became a 50/50 Crap shoot. I load up to quick battle, making sure everything is in place, so far so good, by time I hit the bridge its either successful or just a BSOD crapout.
Ive got a decent amount of ships in as is, but BC just keeps crashing. Is there any way to fix this? I made sure no ship clashes with one another.

[KrrKs]

The answer depends a bit on what exactly the Question is/when the Bsod occurs:
(Large parts of guesstimation on my part involved)

I just noticed you meant BSoD, not CTD, so disregard the other stuff. BSoDs are usually (afaik) caused by faulty or missing scripts, ship(file)s or (Bridge-) animations. You should still be able to get a console printout, to help ascertain what exactly caused it.
-Also, does this happen when a specific ship or bridge is used?


If you mean "how many ships can BC handle at once"/ or the BSOD occurs after loading a QB with a large number of enemy/friendly ships (or ships with large textures):
I don't know, but not that many. It depends a bit on your hardware, but there is also a memory leak in BC's engine involved.
 (As fas as I remember there was some sort of custom patch for that once, but I can't find it anymore)
Personally, I can run only about 10 Ships or so simultanious, or it gets really bad and CTDs after a time.
But someone stated to have run up to 40 ships at once, in the past.

If you mean "how many ships can BC(foundation) handle in total"/ It crashes upon first entering QB:
That number should be pretty much limitless (or as much as python allows it to). In any case this would crash on main menu loading, not QB entering.

[hobbs]

hmmm id check the size of the ships textures.
on my install mine crashes if the textures are 2048's
though it tends to CTD

you could trawl though this too lol http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/board,71.0.html
sorry just trying help

[Flowrellik]

its not the texture size or anything like that. The ships I used are from Phoenix bondi, Wiley Coyote, starforce productions, Gmunoz etc.
the amount of ships I have in game as of now are decent sized even with textures. Its just that BC now is more of a crapshoot in starting up quickbattle with the plethora I have
50/50 chances of loading up or failing giving me a BC error message (My BSODs).
I might look back to see if something is screwy.

[King Class Scout]

double check your carrier files again.  also, one of Nix's TOS packs had a lot of derp problems we never did work all the bugs out of, or figure out an exact reason why (the one with the rarely seen Federation class dreadnoughts and TOS style mirandas).

hobbs has got a point though.  those of us that had stock graphics cards would cough and gag over 1024 sizes, and the BC engine still has that infamous memory leak to it.  i've watched BC steal 4 Gig of ram for itself.

[Flowrellik]

You know after all this time I'm surprised no one has ever and I mean EVER made modifications to the engine.
Seriously, its been years since Bridge Commander's release. It should be A-OK to make a better or perhaps a fix to the engine.
Also, now that you mention it, I did get the Forrestal Class.....and Wicked Zombie's ArkRoyal.

[King Class Scout]

Activision was bought by Blizzard, so anything that Activision still has the rights to is even MORE restricted. IE the IP belongs to a MAJOR games manufacturer.  that's why the excalibur project came out...they're trying to make a scratch engine to replace the BC one.

[Flowrellik]

I just hope this engine can take BC Stuff easy (Like a Direct Transfer but with more options to play around with).

[Mario]

You know after all this time I'm surprised no one has ever and I mean EVER made modifications to the engine.
Seriously, its been years since Bridge Commander's release. It should be A-OK to make a better or perhaps a fix to the engine.
Also, now that you mention it, I did get the Forrestal Class.....and Wicked Zombie's ArkRoyal.

1. License doesn't allow it
2. No source code was ever released of the game engine. So how can someone expect to fix something that you don't have the source code to?

[Flowrellik]

ok. I made sure the carrier files are deleted, and one by one Ive been adding ships in (deleted the custom files too).
I have a gorn fleet (6 low poly Klingon Academy era ships), 2 klingon ships and the Midway by WickedZombie and the Dyson class by Gmunoz.
I added the Atraiu class, and all of a sudden WHAM. BC errors out.
wth is going on? It worked before, why not now?

[KrrKs]

Hmm
I remember tinkering with the Midway carrier, to get it to work as I wanted. But I believe that was just HP editing.
Anyway, without console report there is not much I can say.

[King Class Scout]

almost sounds like it could be the wicked zombie mods.  I know GM's Dyson never gave me trouble

[Flowrellik]

So I have to pretty much edit the hardpoints to WZ"s works then?