TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[Dalek]

Looks more like a Scutter from Red Dwarf...

[Nebula]

LOL never mind then....

[Darkthunder]

While somewhat offtopic, I thought it might be fitting to get a view of what the late DeForest Kelley thought about comparisons between the "old" and the "new" Star Trek, at the time of the filming being The Next Generation. Wherein fans said that if the new Star Trek didn't have Kirk, Spock, McCoy and the gang, they wouldn't watch it. Similar reservations were raised in regards to the new actors portraying these beloved characters. I end this with a quote from Mr Kelley:

"For me each series stands on it's own. Each captures the visions and dreams of it's day."

[Shadowknight1]

Karl Urban did a fantastic job, but no one can replace DeForrest Kelley.  He was a true class act and will be sorely missed.  And what he said in that video is very true.

[Tuskin38]

here is an interesting breakdown of the Enterprise's shipyard.

Link

http://img.trekmovie.com/images/st09/rriverside-ship-yardsss.jpg

Glad they didn't use that one, looks to much like the Republic Star Destroyer Dock from SW:EP3

[Kirk]

One of the Escapist video series spoofs Trek XI about a quarter way through. *language*http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/doomsday-arcade/775-Episode-11

[KrrKs]

Yeah, I think that were additional info readers, like the (Blue thingie Spock lookes alway into) Science scanner they use in the series.

But. To the new film. I've seen it today (Yay, spare time wastement!) and all I can say is: Totall Crap.
I think I don't have to repeat what has been said here already, but ARgh! What should that Mixxer thing on the Enterprise? , What did they do to the Phasers. Who got the glorios Idea of putting a window as viewscreen?, And what do all the Cadets on the Enterprise? Where is the regular crew.....
Ok, I stop my rant here, but .. you get what I mean. For a film directed by a "lensflare SW fan" it was ok. But I'm most definitly never going to call that Star Trek. And I'm not going to see the sequels of that.

[Kirk]

And what do all the Cadets on the Enterprise? Where is the regular crew.....

Two notes:
(1) Enterprise rushed out due to Narada threat, thusly understaffed.
(2) In TWOK and TSFS, the crew compliment was made up of mostly cadets.

[KrrKs]

Well in TWOk it had more of an Senior Staff onboard, not only 3 to 6 persons or something.
And in TSFS they stole the ENt, didn't they (or what did i forget now?)

[Kirk]

I was referring to before they stole the Enterprise.

[KrrKs]

Oh, Ok, that woulda be the TWOK crew.
To "mild" my rant threat a bit (can I say it that way??). The Actors and the acting wasn't bad. I think I just come across the so called Story (seemed a bit rushed) and the inconsistencies just don't help about that.

[Nebula]

What should that Mixxer thing on the Enterprise?

Mixxer?? you talking about the thing with water running through it??
most likely it was used to move water from the water reclamation plant and generate power.

What did they do to the Phasers.

I liked the phasers... from the Ent *I think this is what they were trying to do in TWOK* also had the feel from the first rom ep in TOS

Who got the glorios Idea of putting a window as viewscreen?

That was for the new audience who never watched Star Trek... It's purpose was to show where the bridge was... also in the pilot ep of TOS the "Cage Ent" was supposed to have a window for a view screen... (it was painted on the model's bridge)

And what do all the Cadets on the Enterprise? Where is the regular crew.....

The mission the Ent was sent on was not deemed that important... they sent cadets on a mission where they were to assess the situation on Vulcan and help out as much as possible if it were just planetary activity.
essentially it turned into a training mission gone bad. (same as TWOK)

[Senator]

What should that Mixxer thing on the Enterprise?

Mixxer?? you talking about the thing with water running through it??
most likely it was used to move water from the water reclamation plant and generate power.

* It can also be used to make gigantic milkshakes.

[Shadowknight1]

Just because they're cadets doesn't mean that they're not capable.  Saavik was a cadet when she boarded the Enterprise in TWOK, but she wasn't incompetent.  Also, recall that they all had ranks.  Kirk was technically a Lieutenant while at the Academy.  And a few of them, like Spock, had probably served with Pike in other scenarios prior to Vulcan.  And as Nebula said, they were not, I repeat NOT, expecting a combat situation.

Also, in regards to the viewscreen window, it was by far the best representation of an actual screen I've seen on Trek.  Besides the traditional forward view, I expect that the screen is able to show any angle around the ship by superimposing it.  Not to mention that the screen now displays actual information while still keeping the view open, unlike say, TWOK when the forward view had to be sacrificed to display tactical scans.

[KrrKs]

Doh I need to remember to be clearer. Ok with Phasers I was refffering to the Hand Phasers.
That Turnaround thingy was a bit. . senseless.

What should that Mixxer thing on the Enterprise?

Mixxer?? you talking about the thing with water running through it??
most likely it was used to move water from the water reclamation plant and generate power.

* It can also be used to make gigantic milkshakes.

Ahh, I see.

Posted by: Shadowknight1 
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Just because they're cadets doesn't mean that they're not capable.  Saavik was a cadet when she boarded the Enterprise in TWOK, but she wasn't incompetent.  Also, recall that they all had ranks.  Kirk was technically a Lieutenant while at the Academy.  And a few of them, like Spock, had probably served with Pike in other scenarios prior to Vulcan.  And as Nebula said, they were not, I repeat NOT, expecting a combat situation.

Yep, but no one sends his newest Ship away with only 4 - 10 Senior personell and the others are Cadets.

Also, in regards to the viewscreen window, it was by far the best representation of an actual screen I've seen on Trek.  Besides the traditional forward view, I expect that the screen is able to show any angle around the ship by superimposing it.  Not to mention that the screen now displays actual information while still keeping the view open, unlike say, TWOK when the forward view had to be sacrificed to display tactical scans.

The Screen as Screen/Display was OK. But a window on a Starship is just super-Useless.
You can see what through it? An angle of maybe 5/7 Degree horizontal and vertikal even less.
You canot see anything more than a few kilometers away under normal "space" conditions because it is just Dark. The only way to see something throught the window is, when the object is lightended up by a Sun, Explosion,( or the super heavy floodlight beams they have were... In the Deflector Dish?) Or, the screen needs to put varios Filters and reders over the object, so you see a Computer Generated Picture above the real one. Wich means the Window could be spared.

[Dalek]

Posted by: Shadowknight1 
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Just because they're cadets doesn't mean that they're not capable.  Saavik was a cadet when she boarded the Enterprise in TWOK, but she wasn't incompetent.  Also, recall that they all had ranks.  Kirk was technically a Lieutenant while at the Academy.  And a few of them, like Spock, had probably served with Pike in other scenarios prior to Vulcan.  And as Nebula said, they were not, I repeat NOT, expecting a combat situation.

Yep, but no one sends his newest Ship away with only 4 - 10 Senior personell and the others are Cadets.

Yes they would. Like Shadow said, they were not expecting a combat situation. If only senior personel were placed aboard the Enterprise, that would show a lack of confidence in their ability to do well during any situation. Just cos its the newest ship, doesn't mean the dangers are any different. They know the risks, knowing they might die..

And either way, like the Admirality said, the bulk of the Federation fleet was actually elsewhere and only 7 ships were left to spare. So no high ranking officers with experience in space would be on Earth. The cadets would be the only trained people to fly the ships straight.

[Vortex]

There would be loads of Fed ships at Earth, not just starfleet ones. It is the capital of the Federation, after all. It should have a load of traffic and ships around. That's one of the things Star Trek missed. They went to Earth, there was never any other ship there, unless it fit into the story.

[Nebula]

KrrKs did ya even read what I said about the view screen....

[KrrKs]

@Vortex: This time  there were actually many ships near Earth (At least the ones that gone to vulcan). We can't say how many others were there, maybe the narada destroyed them before the Enterprise arrived at titan.

[Shadowknight1]

@Vortex: This time  there were actually many ships near Earth (At least the ones that gone to vulcan). We can't say how many others were there, maybe the narada destroyed them before the Enterprise arrived at titan.

Considering Pike gave up Starfleet's defense codes, I think it's a certainty that any combat-ready vessels near Earth were pretty well and truly screwed.

And it's as Dalek said, these cadets knew what they were getting into when they put on a uniform and stepped onto Academy soil.  It's the same for pretty much any military-like organization.  They knew the risks, they knew that they might have to be called to serve in space before they were completely ready.  But, to quote James T Kirk: "Risk is our business."