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Offline Phaser

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« on: August 22, 2006, 04:03:13 PM »
After some nudging by Nebula, I've decided to start a TCMP thread here.  Though I'll maintain the one on BCU, as well.

The ships:

Constitution Class:


6353 Polygons



Saladin Class:



3828 Polygons



K7 Station:

7356 polygons



Ptolemy Class:


5236 polygons



Ptolemy Class + Mk I/II/III/V Transport Container:


5922 polygons



Ptolemy Class + Two Mk I/II/III/V Transport Containers:


6626 polygons



Ptolemy Class + Mk IV Transport Container (Personnel):



7587 polygons



Mk I/II/III/V Transport Container (Alone):

704 polygons



Two Mk I/II/III/V Transport Containers (Alone):

1344 polygons



Mk IV Transport Container (Alone):

2305 polygons



Type 1 Shuttlecraft:

2124 polygons (Mesh cleanup in progress)




Daedalus Class:


3802 polygons (This mesh is pretty messy.  I'm going to try to clean it up more, but I might end up just making a new mesh; we'll see)


The Ptolemy Class ships will be MVAM-capable.

The Mk IV Transport Container (or as I like to call it, the Life Pod) is equipped with impulse engines and minimum shielding, but no warp capabilities or weapons.  Think of it as a giant escape pod.

Also, since the Mk IV carries personnel I thought it would be fitting to make the Ptolemy + Mk IV Transport Container able to repair systems slightly faster than the other versions (since there are more people around to fix things in a crunch).

Ranking by speed and maneuverability (1 = fastest/most maneuverable, 4=slowest):

1. Ptolemy without any pods attached (no cargo=>less mass=>faster)
2. Ptolemy + One Transport Container
3. Ptolemy + Life Pod (like with Galaxy Class ships, the Impulse engines on the Life Pod aren't active when it's docked with the rest of the ship, so it's still sluggish even with the extra impulse engines)
4. Ptolemy + Two Transport Containers

I haven't decided yet where the Life Pod itself will go in that list.

By the way, the Mk I/II/III/IV/V Transport Containers are based on the following images from the Star Fleet Technical Manual:



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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 04:29:07 PM »
Im liking what is see, the models and textures look fantastic...

Good Work Phaser. :D

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2006, 04:40:47 PM »
Textures could do with better details (unless you are basing them on what can be seen on the rubbish cameras that had back then). as I'm possitive theres much more details on the actual TOS Enterprise model.

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2006, 06:15:22 PM »
na i think the details are pretty good... are you gonna do an enterprise canon mod pack next? :funny

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2006, 06:54:05 PM »
Very nice collection of ships Phaser, can't wait for the release of this mod pack!! :D

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2006, 07:25:23 PM »
Thanks, everyone!  Right now I'm waiting for starforce2 to convert the ships.  Then I'll be able to continue work on the hardpoints.

Quote from: Cube
Textures could do with better details (unless you are basing them on what can be seen on the rubbish cameras that had back then). as I'm possitive theres much more details on the actual TOS Enterprise model.
You're thinking of the inaccurate paint job Ed Miarecki did to the model back in 1991 which is on the model today.  While he did get the details correct, he made everything far too pronounced (see this page).  He thought he was compensating for the washed-out appearance of the ship on-screen due to the filming techniques of the day, but he went way overboard.

I've seen a few rare high-quality photos of the ship taken during filming for the show, but I can't find them at the moment (I'm kicking myself for not saving them).  But, I do have a few images that'll help demonstrate what the model really looked like, and how Ed only messed it up further with his paint job:

The top of the Enterprise model has (thankfully) been virtually untouched since it was originally painted back in the sixties, so it's a great reference.


And here's what the bottom of the ship looks like, thanks to Ed Miarecki:

Gah!  Get it away!

As you can see, everything is way over-emphasized.


More evidence:

Mairecki's paing job:


Original model:

Though this shot has a starfield imposed onto the blue screen, I've seen a photo taken during the shooting of this scene (that's the shot I'm really kicking myself for not saving), and I assure you, besides being a little blurry there was almost no loss of quality upon adding the starfield.  Though the ship is a little blurry in the shot, you can still see the weathering on the ship, and it's clear that the contrast wasn't nearly as great as Miarecki thought.

Trust me, Cube.  I've done my homework.  :wink:

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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2006, 04:25:38 PM »
wow man! wicked awesome!

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2006, 05:01:44 PM »
Quality stuff there I'm gonna have to add this to my list of mods for BC that I just can't wait to have.  :P

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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2006, 02:18:23 PM »
Just thought I'd share this quickly:

New Tactical Display Icons



Right now I'm waiting for starforce2 to convert the ships to .nif.  Then I can finally start hardpointing.

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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2006, 02:28:38 PM »
good icons, 3-D-ish

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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2006, 02:46:15 PM »
Another thing I was doing while waiting for starforce2:

Constitution Variant -- "The Cage" (1st Pilot Episode)





Modifications (from the production version):

Textures:
Window layout,  bussard collector, impulse engine housing, pylon "squares", the inner side of the nacelles, the bridge dome, saucer hull, and modified the hull textures so the hull lines are gone (they were added after the 2nd pilot episode).

Model:
Bridge dome height increased, spikes added to the bussard domes, saucer and aft nav lights removed, removed the mesh between the intercoolers (those fins at the back of the nacelles) and the nacelle hull, changed the aft ends of the nacelles, increased the size of the deflector, and slightly changed the ventral sensor array of the saucer.


Constitution Variant -- "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (2nd Pilot Episode)





Modifications (from the previous pilot):

Textures:
Window layout, lighted windows (in the first pilot the ship wasn't lit), impulse engine housing color and exhaust ports, bridge dome, saucer hull, and pylon squares.

Model:
Intercooler mesh added, saucer nav lights added, aft end of the nacelles changed (again).

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2006, 03:05:20 PM »
Hmm, someone has been workin hard, I likee :D
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2006, 03:27:14 PM »
This guy knows his stuff, good work Phaser, Those Icons Rock!!. :D

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2006, 07:04:36 PM »
He's the authority on Star Trek Canon, remember...

Excellent work Phaser. :D

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2006, 02:56:51 AM »
This is the best.
really man i cany wait much longer....
keep it up

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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2006, 07:37:49 AM »
looking great mate... damn fine work... if u need someone to help convert, my msn is seanabooth@hotmail.com

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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2006, 03:45:20 PM »
Thanks, Sean!  I really appreciate it.  Starforce2 is pretty swamped at the moment, so I could definitely use your help.  Do you want me to e-mail you the ships, or contact you whenever your on MSN Messenger?

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2006, 04:33:39 PM »
As a fan of TOS ships and getting more into the Tos era this is awesome work.

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2006, 10:40:33 PM »
Quote from: Phaser
Thanks, Sean!  I really appreciate it.  Starforce2 is pretty swamped at the moment, so I could definitely use your help.  Do you want me to e-mail you the ships, or contact you whenever your on MSN Messenger?


contact me next time u see me on messenger... and we can sort em out through that :)

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2006, 02:58:35 PM »
looks really good phaser