Star Trek Online thread

[martyr]

i would bet you that ship and station interiors come as an expansion

[JimmyB76]

oh brother, here we go again...   :roll
someone expresses their dislike for a product under the Star Trek name being pushed for sales, and for that, the person is debated and nitpicked...
get over it guys - not everyone is going to like said products, whether it be a movie or a game...  deal with it, get over it, and move on...
im personally getting more than annoyed seeing this stupid routine, so please please please dont do it people...
please no nitpicking, no petty sentence-by-sentence bickering and debates just because you feel offended someone else doesnt like what you do...  they have every right to post their dislikes, as anyone else has every right to post why they think it is great...
those who are all excited for this game arent nitpicked and debated with personally, so have the same respect to those who dont like this game please...  everyone is entitled to how they feel and entitled to post their feelings...

DT's points about his feelings on the game are valid, and just because he may not be in the majority doesnt mean he (or anyone else) should be nitpicked for not being so...  
you dont like what someone posts?  move on and post something different, but please no more stupid back and forth tennis matches of petty debating because you have a personal disagreement with them...

as has been said a million times before - exchanging viewpoints from different sides is one thing, a good and healthy thing...  petty nitpicking directly of a person's views is another - if you cant differentiate the two, dont bother posting at all please...  i dont mean to seem like a bitch but please dont attack each other because you disagree with them...

moving on...

i would bet you that ship and station interiors come as an expansion

that very well may be true, we'll have to wait and see about that...  who knows how modable this game will be, maybe there will be a community of modders for this game that could do such things...


edit - that just got me thinking; does anyone know if this game will be able to be modded by a community when released?
the only reason im not super excited for this game, myself, is that i just dont really like the look of it, and the concept...  and im not much into multiplayer games personally...
also, isnt there a monthly cost to be a part of this whole MMO?

[Darkthunder]

MMOs can not be modded. Some games like World of Warcraft, allow the players to customize their UIs through addons and other extras. But the basic game can not be modded, and in most cases is even disallowed through the EULA.

Most MMOs have a monthly fee as well as the basic purchasing cost. In addition, more and more MMOs (including STO), will have "micro transactions"; small changes that generally is mostly cosmetic, and not so much game-altering. Examples (using WoW again): Name Change, Faction Change, Race Change, Server Transfer etc. These micro transactions are entirely optional, and in the case of STO (and Champions Online), can also be earned through gameplay and not necessarily through using cold hard cash.



Final comment in regards to my previous post: Barihawk quoted my quite well, but missed out one crucial detail:

Flying around space pew pew fighing ships in Star Trek "kitbashes", does not make it a Star Trek game.

Read the word "kitbashes" in that statement. While STO may allow the players to fly around in the standard designs such as the Standard Galaxy, Standard Sovereign etc, MOST players will be flying around in their very own customized (i.e kitbashed) designs. And if at all possible, most players will outfit their ships regardless of size, with as many weapons as possible, the best shields they can find, the best engines etc.

A Star Trek game SHOULD be mostly about the exploration, first contacts and other NON-COMBAT situations that is generally a part of Star Trek. Where most sci-fi genres tend to favour combat, Star Trek has always been more about the "hopeful future for humanity", in the sense that we would no longer have any wars, poverty, disease etc. All too many people forget this, and are just in it for the "quick thrills", which essentially is "pew pew, blow shit up, move along..."

I have no intention on getting into a debate over whether or not Bridge Commander or other non-MMO games are "Star Trek games". Personally, I consider Bridge Commander to be one of the best Star Trek games to date. Even if there may or may not be more visually impressive Star Trek games these days (such as the "so called" next-gen Legacy game).

[Tuskin38]

I wish the other guys had kept working on it.

[Nebula]

Who Perpetual?? kinda hard when the company doesn't really exist anymore.

[centurion64]

How do I get started modifing my bridge commander game??

[JimmyB76]

by posting a more specific question about what you mean, in a different forum, in a new thread is a good way to begin lol

[Nebula]

Well at least that random post broke the tension in this room.

[Barihawk]

From what I undertstand in the videos, there will be lots of opportunities for missions that have you explore, establish peace, negotiations, and whatnot. Combat is what the people who mostly watch the preview videos want to see. And let's face it...how many episodes of Star Trek (all five series and EVERY movie) did not involve the captain throwing off the holy mantle of peace and kicking ass?

[majormagna]

True... and yet; I think i'll be sticking with EVE Online.

Alright, it has 'pewpew' but there is a lot of diplomacy, that doesn't come through in the official videos, perhaps it's just the same with ST:O?

[NeoSilverThorn]

True... and yet; I think i'll be sticking with EVE Online.

Alright, it has 'pewpew' but there is a lot of diplomacy, that doesn't come through in the official videos, perhaps it's just the same with ST:O?

Eh.....I think I'll give STO a chance.  Hopefully it'll land closer to the classic Earth and Beyond than EVE.  Mostly because the latter truly earns the fan nickname of "Everyone Versus Everyone," and I don't always care for that.

From what I undertstand in the videos, there will be lots of opportunities for missions that have you explore, establish peace, negotiations, and whatnot. Combat is what the people who mostly watch the preview videos want to see. And let's face it...how many episodes of Star Trek (all five series and EVERY movie) did not involve the captain throwing off the holy mantle of peace and kicking ass?

Plenty, in TNG.  I'd rather do the verbal asskicking of Picard rather than the out-and-out brawl of Kirk.  But that's me, and I'm notorious for the luck of being the designated cannon fodder in any given situation.

[Ryles]

As they're going with episode style quests, I wouldn't be surprised if there were missions which involved 'proceed to coordinates x,x,x mark xx and investigate the anomaly' or 'proceed to the random-with-neat-special-effect system and assist the colony with overly-serious-cataclysm of the week' as well as the expected combat missions.

I'm a bit sad that the starter ship is going to be the Miranda... as I had intended to use one of those anyway, and I figured it might not be among the more popular classes. Oh well.

[Psyco Diver]

I'm a bit sad that the starter ship is going to be the Miranda... as I had intended to use one of those anyway, and I figured it might not be among the more popular classes. Oh well.

Better than a class 6 shuttle or Danube

[Tuskin38]

Who Perpetual?? kinda hard when the company doesn't really exist anymore.

well I meant if they did.

[Phaser]

I agree with Darkthunder in that Star Trek is about peaceful exploration, but let's face it: Peaceful exploration can be boring.  Blowing shit up is fun!!! (That's right: three exclamation points.  My name is Phaser, and I like to blow shit up).

I think something similar to Freelancer would work quite well: While combat played a central role, there were a ton of areas to explore in that game.  Best of all, most of those areas yielded something of interest, whether it be a mission, ship parts, raw materials, or just an interesting piece of backstory (i.e., finding a long-lost ship from when that area of space was first colonized).  Throw in some interplanetary diplomacy and you've got yourself a pretty decent Star Trek game, in my opinion.

[Ryles]

I'd say that the Federation is about peaceful exploration... but, Star Trek isn't just about the Federation.

[NeoSilverThorn]

I'd say that the Federation is about peaceful exploration... but, Star Trek isn't just about the Federation.

No, it's about the Federation, the Klingon Empire, the Romulan Star Empire (or remnants thereof), the Cardassian Union, the Ferengi Alliance, the Dominion, and any other spaciopolitical body that the writers choose.

[Dalek]

So the races that you can encounter are:
Federation
Klingon
Romulan
Cardassian
Orion Pirates
Borg
Species 8472

Sounds like a good assembly to me. If only the Gorn...

[Dalek]

I love the explanation given by the STO peoples as to why Klingon ships look like ships from ENT:

"It doesn't look like it, but the Klingon Raptor class is actually a 22nd century design from Enterprise. We solve that problem by pretending it didnt happen..."

 

[NeoSilverThorn]

I love the explanation given by the STO peoples as to why Klingon ships look like ships from ENT:

"It doesn't look like it, but the Klingon Raptor class is actually a 22nd century design from Enterprise. We solve that problem by pretending it didnt happen..."

 

Heh.  At least they're honest about it.