Star Trek Online thread

[captain_obvious]

Oh f88k no. No no no no no.
That's it. No more sto for me.

bloody raptors and t'rexes.  just no. no. no. absolutely not.

[ShaunKL]

I was completely surprised and then totally okay with it.  I just want them to cement themselves to one ideal.  Either make it super-canon Star Trek, or making it super-gaming-fun-time Star Trek.  Also waiting for, "We can have T-Rex's with phasers on their heads, but no tier-5 Connie!?"

[Tuskin38]

Oh f88k no. No no no no no.
That's it. No more sto for me.

Why? Seriously just over an Awesome Enemy?

[captain_obvious]

Why? Seriously just over an Awesome Enemy?

Bullshit.  They could have been awesome, but as soon as I saw the image of a raptor and a t'rex, that was it.  They are going in the wrong direction.  Combine that with my recent feelings of boredom and the lack of regard for balance/combating power creep... you have the perfect mix for "f**k this".

Too many worrying trends in sto recently. 

[FarShot]

Some might look at all your previous posts in this thread and just conclude you're a pessimist.

[captain_obvious]

I was completely surprised and then totally okay with it.  I just want them to cement themselves to one ideal.  Either make it super-canon Star Trek, or making it super-gaming-fun-time Star Trek.  

I want fun, but I want something that is recognisably trek.  I don't want to play an MMO that is a generic sci universe (which STO was creeping towards).  Those dinos just don't fit.  The 1st shot in the blog is actually pretty good.  They seemed dangerous, yet ominous.  The dinos in #2 however looked dangerous on a physical level (i.e. they could tear a man in half) but didn't give the impression that they could do anything other than that.  Oh, and lets not forget the seemingly functionless glowy bits of metal on their backs.  The whole thing just seemed lazy to me.  As if the boys and girls at cryptic had simply gone "Fuck it, lets put dinosaurs in STO!!!".
It made me think of this scene from 30 rock  

The whole episode actually.  it showed a corporate exec desperately clawing for ideas to pitch and at the last moment throws in "FIREWORKS!!!!!".   In fact, a sentence in the devblog (#4) lends weight to this idea.  

At one point our Lead Designer, CaptainGeko, said, ?all I want is dinosaurs with frickin? laser beams on their heads!? We all chuckled

Now the 3rd shot (the one with the 2 mechs) isn't as bad as the second.  They do look like the waifs and strays that didn't quite make the cut in mass effect, but they do seem a little more plausible and fitting than the straight up lazy ass dinosaur designs in shot #2.  I'm not too fond of the smaller, lighter coloured mech but the darker, larger one isn't too bad at all. The smaller of the two screams "barbie girl" to me while the bigger of the two seems much more like a predator. The front of it's main body is reminiscent of a large eagle, with that little gold bit right down at the front of it acting as a beak of sorts.  That said, they both seem rather too clean, rather too krogan/mass effect/generic robo-stompy-stompy-anime-ish.  But this at least is a reasonable starting point.  

those feet though...and the little bob tail on the barbie girl... gods they have got to change those :/

[captain_obvious]

Some might look at all your previous posts in this thread and just conclude you're a pessimist.

Goddamn right, what with the way the game has gone since I started playing it back on f2p launch. 

[086gf]

Wow, thats just retarded. Dinos have no place in Trek at all. If they did the Voth like was done with the Gorn in the current FPS game then that would be fine. Maybe not so different though and only 3 types instead of 15 or whatever types of Gorn. Good thing im still not playing this. Don't have the room anyways.

[Darkthunder]

Thing is, the Voth are an evolution of the Hadrosaur (source) from 65 million+ years ago. So if the Voth evolved, why would they still have the very familiar T-Rex & Velociraptor sub-species still? The only justification is by Mr Geko; "all I want is dinosaurs with frickin? laser beams on their heads!"

In all honesty, CaptainGeko needs to be kicked out on his ass. He's been the man behind many bad design decisions the past 3 years. For a long time, he refused to add the Ambassador Class because it was "too similar to the Galaxy Class". Likewise, an argument was to "maintain the ship silhouette" in order to distinguish which ship/faction you were fighting. And here we are, with a Romulan "fraction" that are allied with both the Klingons and Starfleet. Where's that "maintaining the ship silhouette" now?

When Season 8 launches, i'll continue to avoid Ground Combat whenever possible.

[WileyCoyote]

Jurassic Trek?

[Tuskin38]

Thing is, the Voth are an evolution of the Hadrosaur (source) from 65 million+ years ago. So if the Voth evolved, why would they still have the very familiar T-Rex & Velociraptor sub-species still? The only justification is by Mr Geko; "all I want is dinosaurs with frickin? laser beams on their heads!"

Evolution is based off the environment, perhaps the T-Rex and Velociraptor were not in a environment that prompted evolution.

Also the image they're in, there is a Voth on the left used for Scale, so they're smaller then normal Rexes. Perhaps they're genetically engineered or something. Or they evolved/bred to be smaller

Anyone else think the silhouette of the Voth in that image looks like the Prothean from Mass Effect 3?

[captain_obvious]

Done.  I just uninstalled STO.  I had to do it manually as the cryptic uninstaller simply failed to do anything.  It ran for a whole 2 seconds before declaring that my entire 32GB STO folder was deleted (hint, that doesn't happen in 2 seconds), all registry entries were removed and shortcuts were deleted.  None of those were done.  In fact, I actually ran it right after it uninstalled!
So I had to go and do it the old fashioned way.  Delete everything manually (not hard at all) and run a registry cleaner to clean up the mess. 

Was it a case of "craptic" again, or just them trying to tell me something? lol

32GB sto folder. good god!

[Tuskin38]

I wouldn't know, I run it through steam, any time I've deleted it, it worked fine.

[captain_obvious]

I wouldn't know, I run it through steam, any time I've deleted it, it worked fine.

I never used it on steam.  I for one do not need a launcher to launch my launcher!

[Darkthunder]

I never used it on steam.  I for one do not need a launcher to launch my launcher!

I hear ya. On the other hand, it makes it a whole lot easier to purchase Zen (if one were to be inclined to do so). Purchasing Zen in STO (via Steam) opens your Steam Wallet rather than going via their website. Transfer into STO is seamless, don't have to manually transfer the Zen you bought into a specific game.

I'm finding less and less reasons to log into STO every day. I've been playing Marvel Heroes more than STO lately. But these games are mostly to pass the time, while waiting for Wildstar (new MMO launching in 2014). Not a huge fan of the STO Dinosaurs for Season 8.

[Vortex]

I hear ya. On the other hand, it makes it a whole lot easier to purchase Zen (if one were to be inclined to do so). Purchasing Zen in STO (via Steam) opens your Steam Wallet rather than going via their website. Transfer into STO is seamless, don't have to manually transfer the Zen you bought into a specific game.

Cool, recently started playing the game through Steam. That'll come in useful the next time I want some Zen.

Personally, I'm just getting back into ST:O, but very, very much looking forward to Elder Scrolls Online.

[Tuskin38]

Dev Blog on the Voth Ships

http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=1002371

[captain_obvious]

I hear ya. On the other hand, it makes it a whole lot easier to purchase Zen (if one were to be inclined to do so). Purchasing Zen in STO (via Steam) opens your Steam Wallet rather than going via their website. Transfer into STO is seamless, don't have to manually transfer the Zen you bought into a specific game.

I'm finding less and less reasons to log into STO every day. I've been playing Marvel Heroes more than STO lately. But these games are mostly to pass the time, while waiting for Wildstar (new MMO launching in 2014). Not a huge fan of the STO Dinosaurs for Season 8.

Oh. I didn't realise that it made zen purchases easier.  I always just went through the site. 


I love those voth boats.  They look wonderful!

[Darkthunder]

This would actually look a whole lot better without the "gun handle" underneath.

[nxadam1701]

Gun handle lol
And if you flip it it's a futuristic cruise liner.

The gun handle reminds me of TMP Gorn ships.

Adam