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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5400 on: April 01, 2015, 06:51:35 PM »
Probably witht he new Pilot Skills.

Also for April Fools they announced they were closing down Holodeck and reverting the Redshirt Test Server to 2010 STO.

Well the last part isn't a joke, Redshirt has indeed been reverted to Day 1. Patching is really slow.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5401 on: April 03, 2015, 01:32:31 PM »
My KDF Delta Recruit is a Talaxian


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« Reply #5402 on: April 11, 2015, 11:56:37 AM »
They're adding a bunch of 1:1 scale ship models to the foundry

http://imgur.com/a/ToLLY
http://imgur.com/a/MiGxT

And some space stations for Space Maps

http://imgur.com/a/QIeSQ

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5403 on: April 11, 2015, 03:41:24 PM »
There's some new stuff on the IQ leaks page, mainly about the next lockbox. There's also a pic of an older Tom Paris as well so I guess we'll be introduced to him sometime soon. http://iqfleet.org/private/leaks

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5404 on: March 02, 2017, 02:49:50 PM »
The Breach event returned today and it's a lot shorter. Too short imo. Also the Phoenix Box makes it's return as well.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5406 on: March 07, 2017, 03:11:34 PM »
Yeah, ridiculous ship is ridiculous...

Sorry, not a fan of the design, never have been. Thought it was butt-ugly back then, it's still butt-ugly.

What upsets me more, is that they aren't even trying to conceal it anymore... With the NX-Class, they used the excuse that they were replicas of the 22nd Century design. With the Wells Class, they said it was ships caught in the 25th Century that were stripped of all their "future tech". This ones clearly a 26th Century design, and dropped right smack into the 25th Century (no stripped down, no replica, nada...). Also the fact that the ship literally dwarves every other ship in the game (save for maybe the oversized JJverse ships).

Lastly, I will never "gamble" to get a ship, even if it would be one I absolutely "must have". I'm not that desperate.
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5407 on: March 07, 2017, 03:32:02 PM »
Well, they all look shit.

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« Reply #5408 on: March 07, 2017, 03:34:18 PM »
Well, they all look shit.

That would pretty much be my "tl;dr" version :D
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« Reply #5409 on: March 09, 2017, 09:02:54 PM »
To each his/her own but you have to admit that the Romulan one is the better looking of the three. Hell even it's frigate pets are nice to look at.

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« Reply #5410 on: March 10, 2017, 01:10:55 AM »
Besides the actual design, the overall scale of the ship is ridiculous in itself. What's next? Playable Borg Cubes?
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5411 on: March 15, 2017, 08:16:36 PM »
What's so ridiculous about it? You have other alien species out there with ships far larger than the J and besides, it's not like anyone didn't see this coming. I pretty much called it months ago on here but was told it would never happen. Of course I can't prove any of that since the forum lost around 2 years worth of posts so meh.

Anyway, tribble patch notes with the changes to space combat: http://tinyurl.com/j2p5fsh

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5412 on: March 16, 2017, 01:50:39 AM »
What's so ridiculous about it? You have other alien species out there with ships far larger than the J and besides, it's not like anyone didn't see this coming. I pretty much called it months ago on here but was told it would never happen. Of course I can't prove any of that since the forum lost around 2 years worth of posts so meh.

Tempted to not even dignify this with a response, but I'll bite...

First off, the ship itself is scaled to be 4-5 times that of a Galaxy Class (640 * 4 = 2560 meters, 640 * 5 = 3200 meters). At that scale, it's either half the size of the largest Borg Cubes (5000 meters) or larger then the smaller Borg Cubes (at 1500-2000 meters). Get the ridiculous yet? No? Fine... How about the fact that every single Federation ship is scaled below 1000 meters (canon or otherwise), which means that this ship literally dwarfs everything else?

Then there's the lore itself... This is a 26th Century ship. It doesn't belong in the 25th Century. Any more than the NX-classes belong in the 25th, or the Wells Classes in the 25th century etc. At least the NX and Wells had some justification to their continued existence (stripped down Wells classes without the temporal tech, NX class replicas etc). The Enterprise-J (Universe Class?!?) is not even a replica: It just is! Are we to assume Starfleet went from the Odyssey Class of the late 24th/early 25th Century, and promptly replaced the Odyssey with the Universe Class? A full 100 years before it's service at the Battle of Procyon V ?

"Alien ships are far larger", is not justification enough. Playable ships should be reasonably balanced both in terms of power and in terms of scale to one and other.

TL;DR: I still think the design is atrocious, regardless of it's scale or "lore justification" for existing in STO.
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5413 on: March 16, 2017, 09:39:08 AM »
Standing aside from the STO implementation of the J, I think the look is exactly what that episode needed. The idea when it was designed wasn't for it to be aesthetically pleasing, because the aesthetics of ship designers in a couple century's won't be comparable to how it is now. It's fine if one doesn't like it, but we should all remember that wasn't the point.

For example, the Enterprise E was made to look badass on screen, which it does.
The J was meant to look alien and futuristic and confusing, which is does.

There's some podcast somewhere where drexler talks about rooms conforming to the user, the ship running off the brain power of occupants, thinking things and the ship making it happen. Now for me THAT is a trek i'd like to see.

First off, the ship itself is scaled to be 4-5 times that of a Galaxy Class (640 * 4 = 2560 meters, 640 * 5 = 3200 meters). At that scale, it's either half the size of the largest Borg Cubes (5000 meters) or larger then the smaller Borg Cubes (at 1500-2000 meters). Get the ridiculous yet?

No! Of course not lol! Because one ship is alot bigger than an arbitrarily chosen size for another? The galaxy is 640m but that's not 'too big' for you? At what point is a ship reasonable sized, and at what point not?

Think big! This ship isn't for exploring space, it's for charting multiple universes! Probably spending decades moving from multiverse to multiverse, exploring and answering questions we can't comprehend even asking yet!

Whereas the end-D was a city in space, the J is a country, deep space tours don't last years, they last lifetimes. The people returning to base are the descendants of the ones that left.

I actually wish they had made it weirder. Imagine a ship that doesn't even occupy space for example, and exists only in subspace. How cool would that be!

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5414 on: March 18, 2017, 06:45:46 PM »
They can't make it too weird, starfleet designs eventually need to evolve into the Wells Class aesthetic.

Also it was other Galaxies, not Universes IIRC.

How about the fact that every single Federation ship is scaled below 1000 meters (canon or otherwise), which means that this ship literally dwarfs everything else?

Actually the Jupiter is 1466 meters (16 meters longer then the Vengeance  :funny ) and the Odyssey is 1066.

But still even at those lengths, it does dwarfs them.

When I first spotted it in the tribble files I was really hoping they would scale it down, there is evidence that they were experimenting with scaled down versions.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5416 on: March 28, 2017, 10:13:34 AM »
I wonder what the reward is this year.

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« Reply #5417 on: March 28, 2017, 02:43:50 PM »
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5418 on: March 28, 2017, 02:51:45 PM »
That is a pretty ship.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #5419 on: March 28, 2017, 03:15:18 PM »
Caitian design is so sleek and pretty. Beautiful ship.