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Section 31 Century Class Stealth Cruiser Near Completion
« on: March 19, 2008, 07:41:45 PM »
Some of you may remember a Section 31 Century class I was working on a couple of months back. Well I've decided to scrap that one and start again. I've almost finished the top texture (been working on it for the last 1 1/2 hours). What do you think? As you can see it follow a similar design to the first one but this is much neater. I made the hull black and added noise to it to give it a matallic effect and then overlaid the speculars on it and made then transparant. Also the armour is neater on this version. You'll notice that the big strips have been split up to make it smoother. There's still much work to be done on the rest of the ship and I need to tone down those alpha channels.

First pic is before, 2nd after. Remember the rest of the ship has had hardly anything done to it.

Oh yeah... it reminds me of a car but I dunno what one???


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 07:44:53 PM »
Lookin' good. I can't wait too see what you do with it. She looks better this time around.

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 07:52:13 PM »
Thanks, the trouble with the old one was that I was a noob at photoshop and the TGA files were a mess by the time i'd finished with them. I didn't save the PSD files to edit later so I was screwed. Also with the first version I just applied a filter to achieve the bulk of the textures. This time round i've replaced them which makes it a lot easier because the escape pods and windows are still neat and intact unlike the last one. It would have taken longer to fix the windows on the old one than starting from scratch.


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2008, 07:56:11 PM »
Look at how many times Aeries redid the Mithra. You'll do just fine.

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 07:58:05 PM »
Looks better than the last one for sure. Maybe you'd do asylums connie for an ISS war connie.
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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 11:49:55 PM »
Second version looks alot better. Still not much of a fan of re-paiting existing Starfleet ships, and commissioning them as Section 31 ships :P

I think Section 31 if they had a fleet, they would more than likely be of their own designs. And if they re-allocated a bunch of existing Starfleet ships as their own, I doubt they'd change the hull color etc, in order to make them indistinguishable from the standard Starfleet :)
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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2008, 05:09:22 AM »
holy!
I already liked your previous version.
this is amazing!!!

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2008, 05:38:04 AM »
Second version looks alot better. Still not much of a fan of re-paiting existing Starfleet ships, and commissioning them as Section 31 ships :P

I think Section 31 if they had a fleet, they would more than likely be of their own designs. And if they re-allocated a bunch of existing Starfleet ships as their own, I doubt they'd change the hull color etc, in order to make them indistinguishable from the standard Starfleet :)

Hmm I see what you mean but I like these designs because they're unique. I don't wanna retexture a ship and have it forgotton 2 months down the line or replaced.


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2008, 05:58:37 AM »
My point is: You can also be creative and make a new design entirely :P
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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2008, 12:42:33 PM »
Actually, Lukerobin, they do have a decent point; if I was with Section 31, I'd be disenclined to use standard (or modified variants of) federation starships. What I could suggest is perhaps keep this as reference, textures & all, and build a fresh model of your own design from scratch. You have the skills, I think... ;)

Anyways, this is looking pretty neat. Not sure I'm fond of the random glowy portions, though.

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2008, 03:03:15 PM »
Actually, Lukerobin, they do have a decent point; if I was with Section 31, I'd be disenclined to use standard (or modified variants of) federation starships. What I could suggest is perhaps keep this as reference, textures & all, and build a fresh model of your own design from scratch. You have the skills, I think... ;)

Anyways, this is looking pretty neat. Not sure I'm fond of the random glowy portions, though.

Best of luck,
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Well the random glowy portions will be darkened later. Have any of you ever read The Return by Will Shatner? The USS Monitor was some inspiration. I'll try to get some info on it later. Also look up some S31 ships on BC Files. They follow a similar design but highly undetailed. I will have a go at making my own ship after i've finished this but I hardly have any skill in 3D Max :D Though perhaps a heavily modified varient could suffice. At the moment I just want to practice my texturing skills.


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2008, 03:20:28 PM »
Actually, Lukerobin, they do have a decent point; if I was with Section 31, I'd be disenclined to use standard (or modified variants of) federation starships. What I could suggest is perhaps keep this as reference, textures & all, and build a fresh model of your own design from scratch. You have the skills, I think... ;)

Anyways, this is looking pretty neat. Not sure I'm fond of the random glowy portions, though.

Best of luck,
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Well the random glowy portions will be darkened later. Have any of you ever read The Return by Will Shatner? The USS Monitor was some inspiration. I'll try to get some info on it later. Also look up some S31 ships on BC Files. They follow a similar design but highly undetailed. I will have a go at making my own ship after i've finished this but I hardly have any skill in 3D Max :D Though perhaps a heavily modified varient could suffice. At the moment I just want to practice my texturing skills.

Then by all means, have at her. By the way, how was it you accomplished the 'brushed metal' effect? :)

Edit: Max isn't too hard to get a hold of when you get used to it. :) Just takes time and dedication.

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2008, 03:23:14 PM »
most of the S31 ships on BCFiles are just black!
but as I already mentioned on your first attempt, I think you have a nice handling with your colors.
its obviously this ship isnt "normal" but its not too freaky...
If I just had ANY skills in modelling :(
I have an idea though!
What about adding an additional Pod which's pylon reaches from one Warp nacelle to the other?
Like the mithra by aeries...
but even if this will remain a retexture, I like it, it would be the first S31 Ship I'd download! :);)

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2008, 03:38:57 PM »
Hmm the pod sounds interesting but this is still DJ's moddel.


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2008, 03:44:30 PM »
of course, only with his permission :-I

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2008, 05:46:07 PM »
Ok this should put an end to it. It's almost cannon since Wil Shatner wrote the book.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Monitor

It says, "In William Shatner's book The Return and the USS Monitor was a modified Defiant-class vessel with an all black hull coating that was specially built by Starfleet Intelligence, and was temporarily renamed Enterprise while mounting a direct offensive against the Borg/Romulan alliance at the Borg homeworld."

It's a logical assumption that other ships could follow this design.


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2008, 07:38:36 PM »
I done some more before. Changed the name, neatened up the armour a bit and removed all the alpha channels. The top of the saucer is pretty much complete unless anyone has any suggestions???


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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2008, 08:34:54 PM »
The "noise" seems a little much to me. Or maybe a little contrasting to the main colour. Looking like one hell of an improvement over your first attempt though!
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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2008, 08:49:48 PM »
Do you mean the noise on the armour plating?

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Re: Section 31 Century Class... My Second Attempt!!!
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2008, 08:52:07 PM »
Nice work, no arguement. One little thing, though... why no glowing nacelles or windows? Makes it almost look like a direlect ship... or everyone's taking a nap? :/ Just imo.