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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3340 on: August 18, 2011, 02:25:08 AM »
Along with Khaliban's Connie they were the gold standard 'till DJ and Wiley...just wait 'till CG releases his new Sov  :evil:

Don't hold your breath... CG is an incredible artist but he is in some ways his own worst enemy. He's an ultra perfectionist and well... that virtue can really "slow you down" a bit.

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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3341 on: August 18, 2011, 05:07:39 AM »
Makes me laugh how quickly we move on from a ship when at the time it was considered to be the perfect reproduction of it.

Case in point the refit connie we had the older ones and Khalibans was considered to perfect version. I bulit one and that was well received, then Wiley bulit his and everyone got excited until MarkyD started one and then I built a new one that was approved by Andy P himself and still we are looking for a refit connie to end all refit connies.

Very rarely does an new mesh come along that is head and shoulders above the rest lately MarkyD's defiant is one such mesh.

But mostly like wiley and DJ's sovs there is not much to choose between the two and they are both excellent examples that stand up well aginst the studio meshes, but again people are already looking towards the next sov that will be even better. I'm sure people know that 100% perfection is unattanable unless your a borg.

Sorry for the off topic tangent just find it ammusing.
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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3342 on: August 18, 2011, 08:31:51 AM »
Makes me laugh how quickly we move on from a ship when at the time it was considered to be the perfect reproduction of it.

Case in point the refit connie we had the older ones and Khalibans was considered to perfect version. I bulit one and that was well received, then Wiley bulit his and everyone got excited until MarkyD started one and then I built a new one that was approved by Andy P himself and still we are looking for a refit connie to end all refit connies.

Very rarely does an new mesh come along that is head and shoulders above the rest lately MarkyD's defiant is one such mesh.

But mostly like wiley and DJ's sovs there is not much to choose between the two and they are both excellent examples that stand up well aginst the studio meshes, but again people are already looking towards the next sov that will be even better. I'm sure people know that 100% perfection is unattanable unless your a borg.

Sorry for the off topic tangent just find it ammusing.

I'm actually finding it very annoying LOL.  It seems no one will be completely happy with a certain mod these days :S
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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3343 on: August 18, 2011, 09:01:21 AM »
I'm actually finding it very annoying LOL.  It seems no one will be completely happy with a certain mod these days :S
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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3344 on: August 18, 2011, 05:00:41 PM »
I'm actually finding it very annoying LOL.  It seems no one will be completely happy with a certain mod these days :S

Completely agree with all of this! In fact, I've posted more than a few times in the last few years that someone's representation of a certain class of ship is for all intents and purposes "good enough". Examples of which are LC's Ambassador or CG's Sov.

But people still try to "out do" or maybe I should put it this way: "improve upon". There are some definite examples of improvements and to me, those are totally welcome but, IMO there seems to be an underlying attitude here at BC to generally always try to make better - new and shiny is more sought after than older but still outstanding?????

I have so many installs of "better" iterations of the same ship that my BC installs are now in the 25+ gig range... and I'll bet that there are bigger out there. I wish that if a really, really well made ship is released then maybe a while later and "improved" version comes out, that would be totally fine. But jeez, how many freaking' Connies do we need? Or, other examples of which I don't have the inclination to even mention.

To me, the very best mods (other than the canon ones that are already fantastic) are original concepts... like the Century Class, or the Proteus, etc., etc. Those are as already mentioned, original, and usually only one of which (there are a small few examples to the contrary) is ever released.

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« Reply #3345 on: August 18, 2011, 05:59:09 PM »
guys please try an remain ontopic to wiley's proto-ambassador...
this ongoing topic can be for another thread...

thx :)

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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3346 on: August 18, 2011, 06:05:29 PM »
guys please try an remain ontopic to wiley's proto-ambassador...
this ongoing topic can be for another thread...

thx :)

Indeed!  On that note, she is a beautiful ship Wiley, good luck getting her finished up!

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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3347 on: August 18, 2011, 06:08:40 PM »
While after this I BEG for this to go back on topic, but at the end of the day it dosnt matter if theres 1 of a ship or 1000 of a ship, us modders do things we want to for us, your guys get them as a bonus, we do things as a challenge to our self, not to out do others but to challenge our selfs. i mean the fact that theres 3 or sovs on the go at once is just cercomestancial, if u dont want all Dont down load them, but these people are working really hard to bring the best they can do to the table, i mean we dont get paid for it and we just do it coz we love it, HELL i would build a defiant/galaxy/sov if i was good enough and who knows maybe one day i might be, but me as just one example sit in the TOS as it's the easiest thing to make, but in a couple of years time after growth and trail and errors i wont be good enough, and think....You know I want to try my hand at it! and then after that i'll release it for other peoples opinions, so its not an issues so u dont need a tisssue, download them all try em all keep 1? it dont matter, we do the models we want for what makes us feel right, or what pass's though our thoughts at the time,

so to every one out there who commits so much time to their work, We salute you for all your work and sacrifies, and before some of you say what sacrifieces i lost my wife and kid where i was stuck into doing these models and i should of been paying them more attention, but all i wanted to do was home my skills, a mistake i payed for dearly.

now i model only in my free time and use the rest for my new gf and i have found the ballence, i know for a fact Bazz and Dj as well as my self have a kid *dont know about wiley* but we all do this for a hobbie, just for fun, so really only they can tell them selfs what to do.

Now after this rant i just had a though, Maybe im wrong Maybe there is compertition, like mine bazz's and wileys Connie for example - wait DJ's doing one too - What dose it matter, a little friendly compertition between us is healthy, and actually quite alot of fun - its nothing serisous as i've had help from both baz and wiley

dont really know how to finish this off, but GOD SPEED to all and lets enjoy what we get - coz with out them, WE WOULD HAVE NOTHING!

EDIT sorry was typing this Before Jimmy stepped in and still wanted to share my 2 cents

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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3348 on: August 18, 2011, 06:50:36 PM »
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HELL i would build a defiant/galaxy/sov if i was good enough and who knows maybe one day i might be, but me as just one example sit in the TOS as it's the easiest thing to make, but in a couple of years time after growth and trail and errors i wont be good enough, and think....You know I want to try my hand at it!

Well said.

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please try an remain ontopic to wiley's proto-ambassador...
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..And it's time to go back on topic.

The Proto-Ambassador is nearly complete. It has both the Ambassador and the Enterprise-C registries. I'm also texturing the Sona Battleship.
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« Reply #3349 on: August 18, 2011, 07:06:08 PM »
quick question - will you be doing a proto-ambassador with a different deflector?  something galaxy class-esque or dj's alberta class?
it's no big deal if not, i was just curious...

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« Reply #3350 on: August 18, 2011, 07:07:28 PM »
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will you be doing a proto-ambassador with a different deflector?  something galaxy class-esque or dj's alberta class?
I wasn't planning on it, but I could.
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« Reply #3351 on: August 18, 2011, 08:39:20 PM »
Great work Wiley, nice in-game pic.

BTW, sorry for deviating earlier from the topic of this thread.

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« Reply #3352 on: August 18, 2011, 10:53:49 PM »
Another quick q - did you texture it darker than baz's? Or is that just the lighting...  :hithead:
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« Reply #3353 on: August 18, 2011, 11:01:23 PM »
It's the system's lighting.
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« Reply #3354 on: August 18, 2011, 11:48:02 PM »
Just got back from vacation and saw the last pics.  Looks awesome.  I especially like the aztec pattern on the hull.

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« Reply #3355 on: August 19, 2011, 12:37:43 AM »
I always salute all modders, without you we'd have nothing except standard BC.

*shudders*

I remember starting out thinking BC was epically awesome.  Then I discovered the modding community quite by chance thanks to CG's Sovereign.  Never looked back at stock BC since, and it's all thanks to modders past and present.  From Khaliban to baz1701.  From Anduril to DJ Curtis.  From Chronocidal_Guy to WileyCoyote.  It's all thanks to you guys that we can say that Bridge Commander is epically awesome.  As for which mods are better?  I have several different versions of many ships.  It all depends on my mood. lol but more or less, each ship has its own individual charms. :D

In any event, I wish I could mod to stand up next to these guys.  Since I can't, I'm with everyone else to go along for the ride.

And completely on topic, Wiley, have a cookie for being awesome enough to let me beta-test the proto-Ambassador.  She's lots of fun and definitely a contender for mod of the month in my opinion.

EDIT: Wiley just hit lucky number of cookies!  777!

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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3356 on: August 19, 2011, 01:49:06 AM »

The Proto-Ambassador is nearly complete. It has both the Ambassador and the Enterprise-C registries. I'm also texturing the Sona Battleship.
Here is a picture of the Proro-Ambassador ingame: http://trekmodeler.deviantart.com/#/d46x9d7


One word!  "Wow!"  

Great job Wiley!   I may now have to retexture a bridge for this thing  :muahaha:  Just deciding which one to use will be the question.  I'd definitely use the same color scheme as on my pathfinder set.  I look forward to flying this thing around the rings of Saturn :)

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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3357 on: August 19, 2011, 11:07:43 PM »

One word!  "Wow!"  

My reaction exactly, in Zefram Cochrane's voice. :P
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« Reply #3358 on: August 19, 2011, 11:09:32 PM »

Well said.
..And it's time to go back on topic.

The Proto-Ambassador is nearly complete. It has both the Ambassador and the Enterprise-C registries. I'm also texturing the Sona Battleship.
Here is a picture of the Proro-Ambassador ingame: http://trekmodeler.deviantart.com/#/d46x9d7



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Re: My WIPs - Proto Ambassador UPDATE - NO REFERENCE PICS PLEASE :)
« Reply #3359 on: August 20, 2011, 02:45:35 AM »
Tru dat.  (That gif never gets old. :P)