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Offline Villain

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but recently I discovered my SSV Normandy model was stolen for use in another mod on a completely unrelated game (Complete with the hard work YopYop and Tiq put into it).

The mod is Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer. it can be found here: http://www.moddb.com/mods/nightstalkers-universe-mod

I'd appreciate it if other modders went through the images and ship list and posted here if they spotted work they made that has been taken without request (If that is your policy on releases) as a few of these craft look like they were taken straight off of BCF and slapped on here with his name all over it.


I recall a while back, DJ came across the same problem, and I felt it was everyones right to be notified of stuff like this. I have already sent him an email, and am yet to receive a reply.

Atlantis looks like the one on BCF, as does the Wraith Hive, I believe I saw something about an Enterprise F but didn't see whether it was the Century or not.


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

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der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
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Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2010, 10:54:25 AM »
i really really really hate thieves...  i hope something can be done about this!

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 11:02:28 AM »
I had a quick snoop around on the site:
I don't think that Atlantis is the one released for BC. That one despite looking rather blocky is much wider and flatter than the BC version.
The Wraith Hive doesn't look like the BC version either, the back section is completely wrong. Not so sure about the Wraith Cruiser though...picture is too dark to make out details.

Just curious, how old is this game? Older or younger than BC?
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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 01:28:57 PM »
I'm willing to download this mod and look through it to see if anything from the BC community is in it, though I've hit a wall in registering at the site to download it, apparently all new registrations have to be PERSONALLY approved by admins...  :wtf that's a first.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 03:24:01 PM »
Ehhh I hate these kinds of people, they don't even bother to ASK or even CREDIT people....

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 04:07:37 PM »
apparently all new registrations have to be PERSONALLY approved by admins...  :wtf that's a first.
Some do it to cut down on spam accounts.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 04:56:43 PM »
Some do it to cut down on spam accounts.
Funny I thought that's why they made captcha, but anyways....

Still no approval from these people, now that's a good way to build a community *sarcasm*.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 05:12:32 PM »
admins have lives... you may not get in for 24 hours...

also some people may not know how to add mods or hacks to forums to get antispam things like it in...
Canon is what people argue exists on ships that don't exist.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2010, 12:45:40 AM »
Have a look through the actual Forum Announcements board, you can get to the latest NSU download thread without registering and can freely download it. I only didn't because half a gig takes a long while here.  :(

Freelancer is around the same age as Bridge Commander... It has many issues with model quality and such as it suffers BC's lighting problems too. It seems really hard to come across models of what we're spoiled with here in Freelancer (Or when it thrived, at least), though some spectacular things have been done.  The game itself is quite fun, and the community (Save for the odd jerk like this) are good people.


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

Quote from: JimmyB76
der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
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Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 01:58:13 AM »
Have a look through the actual Forum Announcements board, you can get to the latest NSU download thread without registering and can freely download it.
I looked in every thread in the forum announcements but can't seem to find it, can you provide a link please?

EDIT: Scrap that, the admins have approved me and I've downloaded the file.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 01:32:07 PM »
Ok so now that I have the file I can start looking through it to see if there is anything in there that shouldn't be. I've hit a wall though, apparently Freelancer uses some odd file extensions (.cmp, .3db, and .sur). Google isn't being of much help can someone give me some info on these and what program I should be using to view these files?

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 05:55:28 AM »
Milkshape 3D. Handles it all.


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

Quote from: JimmyB76
der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
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Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 12:24:19 PM »
Milkshape 3D. Handles it all.
I used that briefly to try and learn 3D modeling, the trial period is expired and I'm strapped for cash right now so I can't purchase a license. Could GMAX possibly open one of these files?

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 12:50:39 PM »
On the screens so far I have seen Raven's C-9A.
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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 11:40:47 AM »
Does anyone here have Freelancer? I can't open these files so to check this thing it'll have to be installed into the game. If someone has it I can send the mod over to them.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 07:04:41 AM »
Just an update, I've been in touch with Moddb admins and supplied some evidence, waiting on their judgement.


"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

Quote from: JimmyB76
der-ner-ner-ner-ner ..... der-ner-ner-ner-ner .....
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Quote from: Rick Sternbach, on the topic of the Galor Class' length
...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 10:25:08 AM »
Ok so now that I have the file I can start looking through it to see if there is anything in there that shouldn't be. I've hit a wall though, apparently Freelancer uses some odd file extensions (.cmp, .3db, and .sur). Google isn't being of much help can someone give me some info on these and what program I should be using to view these files?

I found a MPE like tool that should be able to open these files.


Edit: Screenshots

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 01:07:31 PM »
Right, about that Normandy I see on pictures... why we still don't have it in BC  :wtf

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 01:25:10 PM »
I'd say those Century, Bugship, and Armored Voyager screenshots are our smoking guns there. Teleguy where did you find that tool?

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Re: attn Modders: Mod Theft - Nightstalkers Universe mod for Freelancer
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2010, 02:30:26 PM »
It's part of a mod tool pack. I've attached the file to my last post.

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I'd say those Century, Bugship, and Armored Voyager screenshots are our smoking guns there.

To be fair though he gives credit for every ship.

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- KDF C-9A ?Heart of Kahless? (Kahless tIq vo?) class Battleship, concept by Raven Night, textures and mesh by Raven Night
- Juva-class Betelgeusian Star Cruiser, Design: Atolm, Modeling: Atolm/Furyofaseraph, Textures: Furyofaseraph
- Ambassador-Class Starship, textures and Mesh by Rick Knox
- Excelsior-Class Starship, by P81
- NX Defiant/Pathfinder Class Bridge, by Capt. LC Amaral, Viper Leader, Mark, Sean
- SSV Normandy SR-1, by yopyop-TiqHud
- Super Wraith Hiveship, By Dave975 + DKealt
- New Enterprise and USS Kelvin, by Baz1701
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Maybe he also asked the respective authors for permission?