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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #340 on: May 05, 2013, 04:14:37 AM »
nice work! Do you plan on adding a turbolift to the back of the bridge? I think what would make the secondary hull "pop" would be if you added a spine to it.
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #341 on: May 05, 2013, 04:20:38 AM »
nice work! Do you plan on adding a turbolift to the back of the bridge? I think what would make the secondary hull "pop" would be if you added a spine to it.

hmm i think i was going to do a tubolift :) i'll look into the spine idea... i like :) cheers
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #342 on: May 05, 2013, 06:06:10 AM »
first attempt at the spine... not sure i like it at min... will work on it some more i think.



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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #343 on: May 05, 2013, 08:13:41 AM »
Pease remenber, with the size of the turbolift you can judge the sice of the ship (look at the connie or NX-Class)

Ships looks good btw

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #344 on: May 05, 2013, 08:58:05 AM »
thank you
would you say the turbo lift is too small at present?
ship is bout nx size
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #345 on: May 05, 2013, 09:57:39 AM »
far too small

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #346 on: May 05, 2013, 10:31:46 AM »
agreed

having some issues on making this to scale lol
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #347 on: May 05, 2013, 10:58:07 AM »
id say about 1/4 of the total size of the bridge deck should do for the turbo shaft's exterior...

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #348 on: May 05, 2013, 11:34:49 AM »
ok i have adjusted the ship to fit the decks in... the pic below shows airlocks for each deck...

note: the ship will not have that many airlocks i just used the size of the Bridge (deck A) air lock to scale the rest of the ship.

im going to leave the central deck (deck E on the rim) as it is for now... my theory is there is alot of stuff running through this section (ie: it has the deck then crawl-ways in the ceiling and floor.)





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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #349 on: May 05, 2013, 01:12:55 PM »
Those airlocks are too small.  Get the z coordinates of the top and bottom of your ship, find the difference, divide that by I'd say 18, and that's close to a good 3ds max unit to meter ratio.  Multiply that number by around 2.25 and that should be the height of the door of the airlock.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #350 on: May 05, 2013, 01:54:16 PM »
Looks like you've had some similar ideas to what I've been thinking I'd re-imagine the NX to look like.

Nice shape over all, you're definitely doing this one well. Agreed that the lift chute needs up scaling a lot. As for the airlocks; I'd move the one on the bridge to be at the back and either get rid of the one below or move it down to the next section. As it is now, that middle one looks like it's sitting between two decks. Nice work on the RCS thrusters.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #351 on: May 05, 2013, 04:03:08 PM »
thank you vortex :)
the bridge air lock IS going at the back lol jut had it there at the side as an example.
the rcs were a pain... and i dont know how to do the thuster vents...i did have ones like on the nxo1 but they were heavy on polys so got rid lol (i used a cone and booleaed a cone inside.

farshot i took your advice and if you look at the pic below you will see the new size of the doors.... as you see the rim one is ok but using your calculation it means my other decks (especially bridge) are too small any suggestions(other than starting again)

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #352 on: May 05, 2013, 05:02:42 PM »
.i did have ones like on the nxo1 but they were heavy on polys so got rid lol (i used a cone and booleaed a cone inside.


ok sorry if I explain this in terms of blender. Instead of boolean i would have taken a a circle made of 20-32 polys extruded it by the length of the cone. I would have then shrunken that circle so that its at one point. At this point i Would have eliminated all of the extra verts.

At the open part of the cone I would have extruded mouth and shrunk it down by haw thick the cone would be. I would have then repeated the first step to get the inner cone.

In order to get the smoothing right i would have then separated the faces between the two cones. | >

Airlocks, I follow the sizing from the Connie refit: 85% of the deck height. and then do the same with the turbo lift.

The spine looks pretty spiffy, while leaving the front half the way it is, i would fatten the tail, maybe thats where the airlock your going to add can be?

With the nacelles i would also add fins like the TOS enterprise have.
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #353 on: May 05, 2013, 05:25:31 PM »
The numbers I threw out are mostly an approximation, but that door size is definitely much more realistic.  If the bridge is too small then just put a larger one on.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #354 on: May 05, 2013, 05:25:46 PM »
cheers andy will try that when i can focus on your instructions... lol i have a 2.11 year old not going sleep lol

im redoing the aft section now and will return to the top soon lol need to sort out some errors.

but thank you and all the rest for the encouraging words :D makes me happy
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #355 on: May 05, 2013, 06:03:42 PM »
hows this? i narrowed deck E



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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #356 on: May 05, 2013, 06:43:53 PM »
If you don't upscale your airlocks, that means this ship is definitely much larger than the NX class.  Eyeballing it won't cut it.

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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #357 on: May 05, 2013, 06:57:30 PM »
ok well seems i dont understand scale and such in ship modeling lol

nevermind... and back to the ship i go
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #358 on: May 06, 2013, 09:28:37 AM »
another update



Deck A = bridge, conference room, captains ready room, airlock
Deck B = cargo bay level 1, port and starboard airlocks
Deck C = cargo bay level 2, crew quarters, labs
Deck D = labs, crew quarters, engineering level 1
Deck E = navigational deflector, crew quarters, sick bay, engineering level 2
Deck F = Armoury, gym, shuttle bay
Deck G = sensor dome
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Re: Hobbs's WIP
« Reply #359 on: May 06, 2013, 12:17:31 PM »
Nice design and work hobbs!

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