Author Topic: New TOS Romulan Bird of Prey (Read 8524 times)

MarkyD · « **Reply #40 on:** May 21, 2010, 09:04:52 AM »

Think of it this way... if they had the tools when this was originally done that we have today, would they have included the extra insignia... id like to bet they had plenty of ideas they could not fulfill.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #41 on:** May 21, 2010, 09:38:25 AM »

After doing some research, I can safely say that Romulans do use their device on their ships (see below images). Hence why I decided to include it on the BoP, as they would have it on there as well. The only question is where on the BoP it would/should be located (I prefer the wings, but can also place it on the main hull), and which version of the device it should be: the TOS one, the TNG one, or the NEM one.

King Class Scout · « **Reply #42 on:** May 21, 2010, 10:07:02 AM »

the scource I found with the TOS rom badge based it on a device seen in the background on a wall in, I believe, the one where they swiped the cloaking device. I'm not sure if it's free or not, though.

edit:the place where you got the top image has the badge.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #43 on:** May 21, 2010, 10:31:01 AM »

I figured as much hehehe. So the question remains: TOS device, TNG device, or NEM device? I take it KCS is suggesting TOS.

MarkyD · « **Reply #44 on:** May 21, 2010, 10:59:23 AM »

Keep it where it us but make it TOS

King Class Scout · « **Reply #45 on:** May 21, 2010, 12:15:43 PM »

and pull the same effect...a "low visibility" version.

086gf · « **Reply #46 on:** May 21, 2010, 02:14:00 PM »

Yep, I agree do what you did with the NEM version but with the TOS design.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #47 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:25:03 PM »

Alright. So should the TOS device be colored or gray?

Nebula · « **Reply #48 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:27:52 PM »

gray! xD

086gf · « **Reply #49 on:** May 22, 2010, 02:58:11 PM »

Gray for sure.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #50 on:** May 22, 2010, 04:05:16 PM »

Okay, here's the TOS emblem on the wings. Also updated the basic hull texture for a more weathered look.

WileyCoyote · « **Reply #51 on:** May 22, 2010, 04:09:11 PM »

Looks nice, but can you improve the quality of the shadowing in your renders? They look a bit distracting.

MarkyD · « **Reply #52 on:** May 23, 2010, 12:57:17 PM »

I would only use one emblem on the one side. But it does feel better with that insignia

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #53 on:** May 23, 2010, 02:34:17 PM »

yeah, I can't do that. I'm using symmetry on the Unwrap, and 1 texture map. To do what you suggested Marky, would mean asymmetry, and 2 maps.

Which means, I'd have to move the emblem from the wings to the main hull, if you only want the one.

MarkyD · « **Reply #54 on:** May 25, 2010, 06:17:55 AM »

Not really mate.. if your using symmetry (which is the best thing to do, so kudos for that.)

Simply cut that section of the model away..

So that it is a separate from the rest of the mesh.. then map it accordingly.

AS in cut a section around the insignia, weld and correct the model.. the insignia will then be on its own face which can me mapped how you see fit even with the symmetry in place.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #55 on:** May 25, 2010, 08:44:50 PM »

True, but the problem is, the map makes use of the entire space. There's really not space for an extra piece like that. Not without resizing other parts, to make them smaller, and mess up the scaling. So, I really don't have the choice. If I do this, it will mean having to make a second map, and retexture the whole thing. TBH, I don't think it's worth it.

If, then, I'd move it to the main hull, toward the nose, so that there's only 1 copy of the emblem on the hull.

King Class Scout · « **Reply #56 on:** May 25, 2010, 10:02:34 PM »

that might work. the badge is symmetrical. I avoided overlay areas with my reskins when I put my own badges on. good luck.

MarkyD · « **Reply #57 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:13:23 AM »

Lol..

I was just going to type a long explanation of how to do it. but I have not got the time, if you like you can send me the mesh and textures and Ill make the adjustment very quickly to show you what I mean. But thats up to you, its your ship and if you want too badges then who am I to argue ;)

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #58 on:** May 26, 2010, 08:15:28 PM »

Honestly bro, with my new job, I don't really have the time to send the mesh and textures, let alone work on it right now myself. Hence the lack of visual updates

Anyway, I'll update things when I can! Keep an eye out.

ChiefBrex · « **Reply #59 on:** May 30, 2010, 09:02:05 PM »

Updated Images folks. Moved the Romulan device and tweaked some of the textures. C&C welcome as always.

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